Does the Democrat Party now have its very own KGB?

[vegas giants]

I'm not responsible for arguing your points. Either clarify your position or don't.

You're not responsible for being informed it seems. Lol

 

[Ouroboros]

Post 30 still stands. The MAGA crowd wouldn't be saying crap like KGB, Jackboots and all that if tRump's FBI 'raided' Clinton's house.

The MAGA crowd is ASSuMEing Biden does control the FBI. They seem unable to understand the DoJ head is a tRump appointee, and the Judge was hand-picked by tRump as well.

Now unlike the MAGA morons I understand how the FBI, DoJ, Presidency operates. While many of tRump's hand-picked insiders tell tales of tRump's crazy demands for federal troops, demand over 300 leaks investigations, demands Pence be investigated, and all that rot I know there are limits to what a President can order.

Biden's FBI wasn't ordered to serve a search warrant by Biden. It simply is during Biden's Presidency...

No, YOU were jumping to the conclusion that a raid on Hilary could only have happened if it was "Trump's FBI." So you yourself have created the chain of associations whereby Biden is ALSO responsible for anything "his" FBI does.

 

[Ouroboros]

You're not responsible for being informed it seems. Lol

Only responsible for getting lazy Mad Libs to explain their crappy arguments. LOL.

 

[vegas giants]

Only responsible for getting lazy Mad Libs to explain their crappy arguments. LOL.

An argument you lost it seems. Lol

 

[Yes_Minister]

Yeah, the president has unilateral power to declassify documents and is cleared to review all classified information. This is not true of the Secretary of State

Did he declassify those documents? Why do you think the FBI raided his club house then?

Blah blah blah this is not an argument. This is you just rambling

That's the crux of my complaint on this thread, that Republicans only complain about government overreach when it comes to conservative elites and Christian Conservatives, government overreach only matters to conservatives if it applies to conservatives. They are fine with government overreach if it applies to people outside of their clique.

Again, there is zero content in this argument. It actually does cost money for forum owners to maintain websites full of these zero content non-arguments. You made the specific claim I want Black people killed for no reason, if you have any posts of me writing that feel free to post. Otherwise this is pointless

No, I said you don't care if the cops gun down black people like Philando Castile, Tamir Rice and Breonna Taylor for dubious reasons, but will cry if the FBI raid a rich white elite like Trump. You can try to refute that if you want, but I know your past comments on black people being shot by cops.

You cry about Trump's clubhouse being raided, but you also want America to be ruled by a Franco style dictator, you clearly think people outside of your clique should be crushed by the state, it's why your whining about freedom is pointless and only deserves scorn.

There is no way to explain this without far derailing the thread. You can start a thread if you want to discuss it. It is only suffice to say I do not believe people commit crimes without agency because of credit rating standards as applied in 1935

Big talk, but you always chicken out when it comes to the details.

Did he say he wanted to impose a racialist White supremacist dictatorship? No he did not, and your own source doesn’t claim this

What did he mean by that quote then?

Probably, but I have better things to do with my time

Big talk, but you always chicken out when it comes to the details.

When Tucker Carlson took over Fox News ratings and Donald Trump became the president opposing Bush’s war in Iraq and stopping crooked Hillary’s plans for war in Syria against Russia and Assad.

Tucker was for the war in 2003 and did Trump come out against the war in 2003?

If conservatives do not apply personal responsibility to themselves, it's meaningless. Conservatives complain about media bias to avoid responsibility, they don't actually care about improving journalism, conservative media is just infotainment and grifters, they do not care about actual journalism.

 

[it's just me]

The fairy tale says; if the glass slipper fits then it must be Cinderella. Right? Right!

So since the KGB slipper obviously fits the FBI, it must be the new American KGB by default!
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Now back to the business at hand...
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Obtaining a Warrant.
(1) In General. After receiving an affidavit or other information, a magistrate judge—or if authorized by Rule 41(b), a judge of a state court of record—must issue the warrant if there is probable cause to search for and seize a person or property or to install and use a tracking device.

(2) Requesting a Warrant in the Presence of a Judge.
(A) Warrant on an Affidavit. When a federal law enforcement officer or an attorney for the government presents an affidavit in support of a warrant, the judge may require the affiant to appear personally and may examine under oath the affiant and any witness the affiant produces.
(B) Warrant on Sworn Testimony. The judge may wholly or partially dispense with a written affidavit and base a warrant on sworn testimony if doing so is reasonable under the circumstances.
(C) Recording Testimony. Testimony taken in support of a warrant must be recorded by a court reporter or by a suitable recording device, and the judge must file the transcript or recording with the clerk, along with any affidavit.

(3) Requesting a Warrant by Telephonic or Other Reliable Electronic Means. In accordance with Rule 4.1, a magistrate judge may issue a warrant based on information communicated by telephone or other reliable electronic means.

Rule 41. Search and Seizure

www.law.cornell.edu

Take into consideration the following three very important elements:

(1) The blatant in-your-face actions and inactions of the FBI exposes its obvious political bias and true agenda.

(2) And these obviously baseless warrants are fabricated and served by radical leftists whose only agenda is politics & power.

(3) And this latest FBI warrant served on our former President Trump is an attempt to prevent his GOP candidacy for POTUS in 2024.

How could seven chaotic years of meaningless testimonies & evidence possibly justify this continuous flow of warrantless warrants?

But there is one thing that is an undeniable fact.....Donald Trump absolutely scares the democrats to death!

I was going to call it the Gestapo but KGB works, too.

 

[it's just me]

I always dismiss anything said by anyone who calls it "The Democrat Party." The partisan hackery is inherent in the moniker.

I always dismiss anything a non-citizen says.

 

[Logician Man]

I always dismiss anything a non-citizen says.

This^ apply to the Pope, also?

 

[Nickyjo]

Depends on the FBI's motivations. Did they really care about the documents, or were they fishing for other materials? How many documents did they find in Melania's wardrobe?

I repeat: As of now it’s seems that Trump took documents that he shouldn’t have, was asked to return them, didn’t. A judge granted a subpoena which Trump ignored. The FBI went and got the documents in question. That’s it. No evidence of anything else. And what does Melania’s wardrobe have to do with anything? I assume it was in the house.

Trump doesn’t take the stuff, Trump doesn’t keep the stuff, Trump turns over the stuff when asked, Trump turns over the stuff when ordered, nothing happens. Why did he take them? Why didn’t he return them? He broke the law. He then complains about law enforcement. Fits his pattern.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The fairy tale says; if the glass slipper fits then it must be Cinderella. Right? Right!

So since the KGB slipper obviously fits the FBI, it must be the new American KGB by default!

Considering a president tried to steal nuclear secrets and sell them to our worst adversaries, it's funny to see you running around with your hair on fire mumbling about Dem KGB cloak and dagger.
Stupid as Hell, but a little bit funny nonetheless...like when you catch the family pooch eating the cat turds out of the litter box...if the cat turds had Plutonium in them.

 

[Ouroboros]

An argument you lost it seems. Lol

Only a Mad Lib would believe that all arguments all won by citing trivia, which is all this is.

Yes, for once there’s some legitimate irony in Trump’s enemies turning one of the bills he signed against him. I had to question Checkerboard’s statement because most Mad Libs are completely tone-deaf to both humor and irony. I guess even a stopped clock, etc.

So far no one has refuted any argument I’ve made on this thread. Give it a try; Mad Libs may not be able to come up with humor other than “orange man bad,” but you’re always funny without meaning to be.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Yeah, the president has unilateral power to declassify documents and is cleared to review all classified information. This is not true of the Secretary of State

This aged like milk:

A president does not have the authority to declassify material on nuclear or atomic energy or weapons.
-The Atomic Energy Act

Redirect Notice

You are likely still more offended by Tamir Rice playing with a toy gun or Philando Castile's driving than you are Trump taking nuclear documents.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Only a Mad Lib would believe that all arguments all won by citing trivia, which is all this is.

Yes, for once there’s some legitimate irony in Trump’s enemies turning one of the bills he signed against him. I had to question Checkerboard’s statement because most Mad Libs are completely tone-deaf to both humor and irony. I guess even a stopped clock, etc.

So far no one has refuted any argument I’ve made on this thread. Give it a try; Mad Libs may not be able to come up with humor other than “orange man bad,” but you’re always funny without meaning to be.

Conservatives: Orange man is God!

 

[Ouroboros]

I repeat: As of now it’s seems that Trump took documents that he shouldn’t have, was asked to return them, didn’t. A judge granted a subpoena which Trump ignored. The FBI went and got the documents in question. That’s it. No evidence of anything else. And what does Melania’s wardrobe have to do with anything? I assume it was in the house.

Trump doesn’t take the stuff, Trump doesn’t keep the stuff, Trump turns over the stuff when asked, Trump turns over the stuff when ordered, nothing happens. Why did he take them? Why didn’t he return them? He broke the law. He then complains about law enforcement. Fits his pattern.

You’re welcome to believe the Garland rationale. I think the fishing explanation makes more sense, particularly since the FBI has not charged DT with the “felony” all the Mad Libs think a slam dunk.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

This aged like milk:

A president does not have the authority to declassify material on nuclear or atomic energy or weapons.
-The Atomic Energy Act

Redirect Notice

You are likely still more offended by Tamir Rice playing with a toy gun or Philando Castile's driving than you are Trump taking nuclear documents.

Pffft lame.

now Garland is trying to claim nonsense to justify himself in the face of backlash.


Rice and Castille pulling guns on people is not relevant to anything here

 

[Logician Man]

Pffft lame.

now Garland is trying to claim nonsense to justify himself in the face of backlash.


Rice and Castille pulling guns on people is not relevant to anything here

What "nonsense" are you referring to that Garland would, in any manner, need to "justify himself"?

 

[Yes_Minister]

Pffft lame.

now Garland is trying to claim nonsense to justify himself in the face of backlash.

What evidence do you have that proves that is "nonsense"?

Rice and Castille pulling guns on people is not relevant to anything here

And stealing nuclear secrets is what, a minor offense?

Or maybe you think rich white conservative elites like Trump matter more than black people?

 

[post]

Only responsible for getting lazy Mad Libs to explain their crappy arguments. LOL.

If our arguments were not supported by facts, we would not make them. Example, is there any federal agency Trump has not shitstained?

2020 dismissal of inspectors general​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2020_dismissal_of...
In April and May 2020, United States President Donald Trump dismissed the inspectors general (IGs) of five cabinet departments in the space of six weeks. … See more

Joseph Cuffari - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DHS Inspector General​

..nominated by Donald Trump .. as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General (IG) on July 25, 2019. ..

Cuffari rejected his staff's recommendation to investigate.. the forcible clearing of protesters from Lafayette Square .. in June 2020.

Cuffari also sought to limit the scope of the investigation into the spread of COVID-19 within the Secret Service, which had been attributed to the Trump Re-Election Campaign not following COVID guidelines. It was later reported that 881 employees of the Secret Service had been infected with COVID, more than 11% of the agency.

Following Brian Murphy's September 2020 whistleblower complaint about Chad Wolf, Ken Cuccinelli, and Kirstjen Nielsen politicizing Department of Homeland Security assets to support the views of both Stephen Miller and Donald Trump, Cuffari began his inspector general (IG) investigation into alleged misconduct at Department of Homeland Security (DHS) after the November 2020 elections. The DHS Office of Intelligence & Analysis released no "intelligence products specific for the January 6", 2021 attack on the capitol. On April 27, 2021, Brian Volsky, the former head of the DHS inspector general's whistleblower protection unit, filed a memo with CIGIE accusing Cuffari .. of mishandling Brian Murphy's complaints.

In December 2021 Cuffari's office learned that Secret Service text messages from the time of the attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 had been deleted. Staff members of his office planned to contact the respective offices, collect the phones and use data recovery specialists to try to recover the messages. However, Cuffari decided not to review any of the phones. ... text messages of former acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf and acting DHS Deputy Ken Cuccinelli were lost in a reset after they left the DHS. He did not investigate the deletion of these records.

Anthony Ornato - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Anthony M. Ornato ..headed the security detail of president Donald Trump until taking a leave of absence when the president named him White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations in December 2019. After his tenure as a political appointee in the Trump administration, he returned to the Secret Service where he currently serves as the Assistant Director in the Office of Training.

Please post comparable examples of Biden, "shitting up" the executive branch!

 

[EMNofSeattle]

What evidence do you have that proves that is "nonsense"?




And stealing nuclear secrets is what, a minor offense?

Or maybe you think rich white conservative elites like Trump matter more than black people?

Police encounters against street criminals are not in any way relevant to this. This is merely a diversion on your part. A pretty lame one too

 

[Hari Seldon]

The fairy tale says; if the glass slipper fits then it must be Cinderella. Right? Right!

So since the KGB slipper obviously fits the FBI, it must be the new American KGB by default!
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Now back to the business at hand...
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Obtaining a Warrant.
(1) In General. After receiving an affidavit or other information, a magistrate judge—or if authorized by Rule 41(b), a judge of a state court of record—must issue the warrant if there is probable cause to search for and seize a person or property or to install and use a tracking device.

(2) Requesting a Warrant in the Presence of a Judge.
(A) Warrant on an Affidavit. When a federal law enforcement officer or an attorney for the government presents an affidavit in support of a warrant, the judge may require the affiant to appear personally and may examine under oath the affiant and any witness the affiant produces.
(B) Warrant on Sworn Testimony. The judge may wholly or partially dispense with a written affidavit and base a warrant on sworn testimony if doing so is reasonable under the circumstances.
(C) Recording Testimony. Testimony taken in support of a warrant must be recorded by a court reporter or by a suitable recording device, and the judge must file the transcript or recording with the clerk, along with any affidavit.

(3) Requesting a Warrant by Telephonic or Other Reliable Electronic Means. In accordance with Rule 4.1, a magistrate judge may issue a warrant based on information communicated by telephone or other reliable electronic means.

Rule 41. Search and Seizure

www.law.cornell.edu

Take into consideration the following three very important elements:

(1) The blatant in-your-face actions and inactions of the FBI exposes its obvious political bias and true agenda.

(2) And these obviously baseless warrants are fabricated and served by radical leftists whose only agenda is politics & power.

(3) And this latest FBI warrant served on our former President Trump is an attempt to prevent his GOP candidacy for POTUS in 2024.

How could seven chaotic years of meaningless testimonies & evidence possibly justify this continuous flow of warrantless warrants?

But there is one thing that is an undeniable fact.....Donald Trump absolutely scares the democrats to death!

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated,” Trump told Raffensperger before questioning the secretary about a “rumor” that ballots for him were “shredded” in Fulton County, which is home to Atlanta, the state’s largest city and a major Democratic bastion.

“All I want to do is this,” the president continued. “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Here we have a fascist asshole.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Police encounters against street criminals are not in any way relevant to this. This is merely a diversion on your part. A pretty lame one too

Seems like conservatives are willing dismiss most black people as street criminals who need militarized police to goosestep on them, but want rich conservative elites like Trump to be treated with kids gloves.

If you are going to say I am wrong, prove it, name me some times you stood up for the rights of people outside of your clique.

 

[post]

Police encounters against street criminals are not in any way relevant to this. This is merely a diversion on your part. A pretty lame one too

 

[Eurotrash]

I always dismiss anything a non-citizen says.

Who's a non-citizen?

 

[bluesmoke]

Only because the country is corporately controlled, and that's what the corporate masters want the country to be. Not necessarily because that is how the majority of Americans actually think.

Most Americans think corp taxes should be higher. But they let it happen. In the art of compromise, protection of the rich and large corps is always painted in, somewhere, by the decisionmakers who represent the people.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Most Americans think corp taxes should be higher. But they let it happen. In the art of compromise, protection of the rich and large corps is always painted in, somewhere, by the decisionmakers who represent the people.

That's because wealthy corps are big donors to political parties, not because it is the will of the people.