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Does anyone here work?

Does anyone here work?

  • Yes, a daytime job

    Votes: 16 40.0%

  • Yes, part-time

    Votes: 8 20.0%

  • Yes, a 2nd or 3rd shift

    Votes: 3 7.5%

  • Yes, self-employed

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • No, I'm disabled, retired, independently wealthy, or a bum

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • Total voters
    40
DeeJayH said:
and i will say it again
the overwhelming majority of people who have NOBODY to help, are that way for a very good reason
they are losers who burned every relationship they ever had
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That's absurd. My husband and I moved out of state when my son was a toddler and my duaghter a newborn. We had zero help because we were in Washington while my family was in California and his was in Philly. I knew no one and he had just started a new job. Now we have good friends but for the first couple of years we were pretty much on our own and we definitely weren't losers. Many people are in similar situations and have no family living nearby. It takes awhile to make friends that are good enough that you'd trust leaving your kids with them and even longer to make friends that are good enough that you'd impose on them by asking them to watch the kids. :mrgreen:
 
talloulou said:
That's absurd. My husband and I moved out of state when my son was a toddler and my duaghter a newborn. We had zero help because we were in Washington while my family was in California and his was in Philly. I knew no one and he had just started a new job. Now we have good friends but for the first couple of years we were pretty much on our own and we definitely weren't losers. Many people are in similar situations and have no family living nearby. It takes awhile to make friends that are good enough that you'd trust leaving your kids with them and even longer to make friends that are good enough that you'd impose on them by asking them to watch the kids. :mrgreen:
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Yeah, well... he probably meant everybody else but you, Tallou. ;)

You (and any other conservative mom who pipes up to refute Deejay's preposterous claim) are no doubt the "exception to the rule", in Deejayville.

But see, that's the problem with blanket statements and gross overgeneralizations. You cast a wide enough net, you eventually end up tangling up your friends in it, and p!ssing them off, not to mention deterring potential allies.
 
It would be so much easier to say something in line with your position Ten--if there wasn't so much acid dripping from your posts. I want to...I really do.:sigh:
 
1069 said:
Or, you know... possibly their families don't reproduce like rabbits; possibly they are an only child, without "six blue-collar cousins" to pick up the slack.

:shrug:

You know... just possibly.

But I do find your "blame the victim" mentality telling.
If nobody wants to give you charity, it's because you're a loser, and you suck.
A more worthy recipient would no doubt be showered with charity from family and friends alike.

I find it telling because, you know, I thought this whole debate was about what's best for children...?
If we all punish a needy parent by withholding support because she's a "loser" and nobody likes her, then what does that say about our true motives in supporting a parent whom we happen to like better? Was it ever, in any way, about what was best for children?

People need to be self-sufficient if at all possible, and that's doubly true for parents, of either gender. You can't depend upon the whims or the generosity of others, not where your child is concerned; charity and hand-outs are nice, but they're not reliable, they're not stable.
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putting words in other peoples mouths i see
my cousins were an example
friends is another example
Losers are the ones who are in the situation because of their poor life decisions
and guess what
THERE ARE GOVT PROGRAMS TO HELP THEM
 
talloulou said:
That's absurd. My husband and I moved out of state when my son was a toddler and my duaghter a newborn. We had zero help because we were in Washington while my family was in California and his was in Philly. I knew no one and he had just started a new job. Now we have good friends but for the first couple of years we were pretty much on our own and we definitely weren't losers. Many people are in similar situations and have no family living nearby. It takes awhile to make friends that are good enough that you'd trust leaving your kids with them and even longer to make friends that are good enough that you'd impose on them by asking them to watch the kids. :mrgreen:
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a)so did you move to another state so you could live in poverty?
b)or did you do it for a better job?

if you answered yes to option A
you are an freaking idiot
if you answered yes to option B
than you did not need family and friends support because you moved for a better job and are self sufficient
 
Felicity said:
It would be so much easier to say something in line with your position Ten--if there wasn't so much acid dripping from your posts. I want to...I really do.:sigh:
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she is nothing more than the polar opposite of PTSDkid
 
Yes, I work monday through Friday. I'm an Therapeutic Massage Specialist, so if anyone wants tips on self-massage techniques, let me know!:2wave:
 
ptsdkid said:
***Can't say for sure, but I think she resembles that remark.
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Heaven forbid. :roll:

Is PTSD as smart as I am?
Well, maybe I'll have to start paying more attention to his posts; I've never really read any of them.
 
1069 said:
Heaven forbid. :roll:

Is PTSD as smart as I am?
Well, maybe I'll have to start paying more attention to his posts; I've never really read any of them.
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I doubt you think anybody is as smart as you are
 
Moderator's Warning:
Alright, let's all cut out the personal attacks before something gets broken.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Moderator's Warning:
Alright, let's all cut out the personal attacks before something gets broken.
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***yeah, I've noticed that most of my mild threads end up sinking to the lowest common denominator before they end. All I can figure is that my posts bring out the firey passion in folks. C-mon Capt, not everyone here can be expected to be as mild mannered as myself.
 
ptsdkid said:
***yeah, I've noticed that most of my mild threads end up sinking to the lowest common denominator before they end. All I can figure is that my posts bring out the firey passion in folks. C-mon Capt, not everyone here can be expected to be as mild mannered as myself.
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What I find funny is that you insinuated that I'm an illegal alien not 20 posts into the thread :roll:
 
Stace said:
Alright, alright, be nice y'all.
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I don't believe there's anything unacceptably "not nice" about my statement that Deejay's racist quip is not funny; certainly nothing that would require administrative intervention.
It is my opinion. I stand by it.
 
1069 said:
I don't believe there's anything unacceptably "not nice" about my statement that Deejay's racist quip is not funny; certainly nothing that would require administrative intervention.
It is my opinion. I stand by it.
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Did I single you out specifically? No. If you have a problem with a mod direction, you're free to PM me. Them's the rules and all.
 
Stace said:
Did I single you out specifically? No. If you have a problem with a mod direction, you're free to PM me. Them's the rules and all.
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While I don't have a problem with your opinion that my not finding Deejay's racist quip humorous- and expressing that to him- is "not nice", I also do not agree with you.
And my statement stands, although your opinion of it is duly noted.
 
1069 said:
While I don't have a problem with your opinion that my not finding Deejay's racist quip humorous- and expressing that to him- is "not nice", I also do not agree with you.
And my statement stands, although your opinion of it is duly noted.
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And why do you assume that my comment was targeted at you? If you feel that what you said wasn't in any way out of line, then you have nothing to worry about, and don't need to conduct yourself any differently.

End of discussion, unless anyone would like to address this in a PM.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
ptsdkid said:
***yeah, I've noticed that most of my mild threads end up sinking to the lowest common denominator before they end. All I can figure is that my posts bring out the firey passion in folks. C-mon Capt, not everyone here can be expected to be as mild mannered as myself.
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Hmmm...I have a different theory around why so many of your threads need to be moderated.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hmmm...I have a different theory around why so many of your threads need to be moderated.
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The short answer is "because that is the goal of the thread".

the long answer might require something a bit more detailed.
 
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