Does Anybody Else Have That Strange Feeling About All This?[W:84]

[PW4000]

The FBI has just announced through "CNN" that it would take over the public relations communications on the wounded "suspects" allegedly involved in the Boston Marathon Bombings. In other words, the Doctors and the hospital that is actually involved in treating the "patient" will not be taking the lead role in informing the public about the health condition of said "patient."

So, here's me problem with all this:

1) A bomb exploded at the 2013 running of the Boston Marathon in broad daylight, killing three citizens and wounding many dozens more.

2) Video(s) was released through the mass media of what were defined as two (2) suspects within four (4) days of the event.

3) The video(s) focused on two (2) individuals carrying backpacks.

4) The video(s) were electronically enhanced to more clearly show the faces from various angles of the two (2) individuals defined as "suspects."

5) The video(s) showing the "suspects" also contained images of non-suspects who were also carrying various kinds of baggage.

6) CNN broke live coverage and made a statement about a shots being fired at MIT, but never sent a camera crew or reporter to the scene to provide immediate coverage as the events unfolded after the shots were fired. CNN then went back to its coverage of the aftermath of the Boston Marathon Bombings.

7) CNN breaks the news later that the shots involved one (1) of the "suspects" as the shooter and one (1) on campus police officer and that the officer had been shot dead.

8) Boston is for all intent and purposes put on lock-down and its citizens are told through the mass media to not allow anyone into their house and/or apartment unless they could identify that the person at their door was a law enforcement official. The city was put on "Shelter In" status.

9) "Suspect" (1) was gunned down by law enforcement and reports of his body being exposed to what appeared to the effects of some kind of blast or explosion were offered to the public through the mass media.

10) "Suspect" (2) was fired upon by law enforcement multiple times repetitively until he was incapacitated and able to be taken into custody, where he is not in a hospital classified as being in "Serious Condition."

Here's the problem I have with all of this. There were a 100 billion people in attendance at the running of the Boston Marathon who were also carrying large bags of various kinds. Many large bags being carried by many different people were also of sufficient size to house the "Pressure Cooker" bombs alleged to be used in the attack. Yet, the video(s) that were used were very selective in their focus on two (2) very specific individuals.

None of the video(s) shown to the public (at this time) demonstrate either of the two (2) "suspects" having dropped and/or placed their bags in either location where the bombs were said "officially" to have last been laid to rest before being detonated. All the public has seen, have been video(s) that shows the two (2) "suspects" walking through a crowd of people at the Boston Marathon with bags (backpacks) on their shoulders.

At the outset, before the identity of anyone that might have been connected with the explosion was known, the act itself was identified as an "Act of Terror." Allusions to the prior events of 911 were then made through the mass media on a regular basis and at regular intervals. "Experts" began to emerge in the mass media each day, connecting certain aspects of Boston with the prior events in New York.

The public has never been able to hear and/or see either of the two (2) suspects alive and in their own voice. The only voice of the "suspects" that has ever been heard, has been the voice of the mass media.

My Opinion:

Terrorists love to brag about their conquests. They are not shy about coming forth and letting the entire world know that they committed some unimaginable and despicable act of mass violence against humanity. That's the MO of a real terrorist. A real terrorists wants you to know what they did, because without you knowing what they did, there would be no way for you to associate the act of terror with the identity of the terrorist. So, terrorists do not typically go commit an act of utter destruction and then go hide out under a tarp in a dry docked boat in somebodies back yard. A real terrorist is bold and ready to both kill and die for their cause. But, they would much rather live after the fact, so that they can brag to you about their "accomplishments."

None of that fits in this case.

These guys were on the run and we all know that real terrorist don't "run" they "escape." They escape to a place where you have a very hard time finding them. But, that's not the real reason why they seek to escape. They seek to escape so that they can have the freedom to brag to you from some remote location.

These two (2) guys stayed in Boston? Huh? The never got the heck out of dodge so that they could gloat over what they had done and so that they could send you a video tape later, explaining why they had committed the act? Huh? They seem to have broken all the rules of what it means to be a real terrorist. They highjacked a car? Huh? Really? Did they really do that? You mean that these real terrorist who were acting with such "military type precision" and like they had "rehearsed their maneuvers" several times before, basically forgot to arrange for their departure form the scene? Huh? Really?

What I want to see is at least one of these "suspects" speak for himself. I want to hear this "suspect" tell me that he did it. Why? Because no self-respecting genuine cold blooded terrorist of any real depth and/or dimension, will fail to tell the world about what he did and why he did it. If these guys committed these atrocities while acting in the name of terror, then they would have absolutely zero problem with admitting as much to the entire world, if given the opportunity.

After 911 and the subsequent actions taken in Iraq and Afghanistan, I have become very skeptical about "official stories" and "official story tellers." I want to hear it straight from the horses mouth, not the horses trainer, or the horses owner, or that 'other' end of the horse. Even now, CNN is telling me what happened blow-by-blow and play-by-play. That's ok. I'm good with that. But, this time I want to hear at least one of these guys say: "Yeah. I set the bomb off. I did it and you can fry me in the electric chair for all I care because I believed in my cause [insert stated terrorist cause here...]."

That's what I want. I don't want to be told anymore what I should think. I want to think for myself this time. Let me hear at least one of these guys tell me straight to my face that he did it. I will believe him and then I will support his total prosecution under the Law. Why? Because, no matter what happens we MUST remain a Nation of Laws and not a nation of scandalous retribution based on supposition, innuendo and hyper-speculation.

Regarding the Officer that was shot at MIT. Were there any eyewitnesses to the shooting that identified the shooter as being one of the suspects? Or, were we told that the shooter was one of the bombers? No.

FOX News Reports it this way:

Collier was found shot several times in his vehicle at about 10:30 p.m. Thursday.

Read more: MIT officer killed by Boston bombing suspects was well liked, chief says | Fox News
​

Why did these terrorists remain in the Boston area for nearly five (5) days after "successfully" pulling off what at that point was the next best hit on America since 911? Why not make prior arrangements get the heck out of dodge, so that they could send postcards and brag about what they had done like real terrorists like to do? Stick around? Hand out? Highjack other vehicles? If they had done what CNN had said they did in taking such great care to maneuver through this entire mission they had planned with "laser like precision" (as reported by CNN), then how did they manage to screw-up one of the most important aspects of any terrorists plan - to make sure they were able to call responsibility for their actions? They had to know that they would not be able to claim responsibility, if they got involved in a shoot out with half a billion Law Enforcement Agents. They had to know that much.

So, even when it comes to Officer Sean A. Collier, the only voice we have about his death is that of the "official story tellers."

I want to hear from the "Official Suspect." I want to hear him say: "Yep. That was my handiwork. I did that. And, I did it for the cause [insert terrorist cause here...]."

I want this guy to live. Because I want to hear him say that he did it, as no serious terrorist that had just finished their mission, would somehow all of a sudden grew a conscious about their own life and decide to go hide in a boat under a tarp, shaking and shivering like a cold fish.

Were these guys "radicalized?" Maybe so. I don't know yet. I want some answers, but most importantly, I want to hear this last surviving "suspect" tell the world that he did it. I don't want some Mass Media Expert telling me about how today's neo-terrorist just wants to mimic Osama Bin Laden, by striking out on their own, or how we should now be focused on Russian connections. I mean, get real. This is not in the style of the Kremlin. This does not have a Kremlin signature. An extremely low yield explosion at the Boston Marathon, is definitely not coming out of the Kremlin. That dog won't hunt.

I want do hear from this dude, personally. I want to hear his own voice. I want to see his real face after the fact, not these baby face videos and snapshots. I want to see the dude that is said to have done this, and then I want to actually hear him say that he did it.

From his lips to my ears.

What say you?

 

[Surtr]

Why should we be informed of their medical status, and why wouldn't the FBI take this case? I'm honestly surprised that it isn't going straight to Homeland Security where it belongs.

 

[Chaddelamancha]

How about give law enforcement a second to interview the suspect. I find that if people really want a conspiracy, they can find one.

The FBI has just announced through "CNN" that it would take over the public relations communications on the wounded "suspects" allegedly involved in the Boston Marathon Bombings. In other words, the Doctors and the hospital that is actually involved in treating the "patient" will not be taking the lead role in informing the public about the health condition of said "patient."

So, here's me problem with all this:

1) A bomb exploded at the 2013 running of the Boston Marathon in broad daylight, killing three citizens and wounding many dozens more.

2) Video(s) was released through the mass media of what were defined as two (2) suspects within four (4) days of the event.

3) The video(s) focused on two (2) individuals carrying backpacks.

4) The video(s) were electronically enhanced to more clearly show the faces from various angles of the two (2) individuals defined as "suspects."

5) The video(s) showing the "suspects" also contained images of non-suspects who were also carrying various kinds of baggage.

6) CNN broke live coverage and made a statement about a shots being fired at MIT, but never sent a camera crew or reporter to the scene to provide immediate coverage as the events unfolded after the shots were fired. CNN then went back to its coverage of the aftermath of the Boston Marathon Bombings.

7) CNN breaks the news later that the shots involved one (1) of the "suspects" as the shooter and one (1) on campus police officer and that the officer had been shot dead.

8) Boston is for all intent and purposes put on lock-down and its citizens are told through the mass media to not allow anyone into their house and/or apartment unless they could identify that the person at their door was a law enforcement official. The city was put on "Shelter In" status.

9) "Suspect" (1) was gunned down by law enforcement and reports of his body being exposed to what appeared to the effects of some kind of blast or explosion were offered to the public through the mass media.

10) "Suspect" (2) was fired upon by law enforcement multiple times repetitively until he was incapacitated and able to be taken into custody, where he is not in a hospital classified as being in "Serious Condition."

Here's the problem I have with all of this. There were a 100 billion people in attendance at the running of the Boston Marathon who were also carrying large bags of various kinds. Many large bags being carried by many different people were also of sufficient size to house the "Pressure Cooker" bombs alleged to be used in the attack. Yet, the video(s) that were used were very selective in their focus on two (2) very specific individuals.

None of the video(s) shown to the public (at this time) demonstrate either of the two (2) "suspects" having dropped and/or placed their bags in either location where the bombs were said "officially" to have last been laid to rest before being detonated. All the public has seen, have been video(s) that shows the two (2) "suspects" walking through a crowd of people at the Boston Marathon with bags (backpacks) on their shoulders.

At the outset, before the identity of anyone that might have been connected with the explosion was known, the act itself was identified as an "Act of Terror." Allusions to the prior events of 911 were then made through the mass media on a regular basis and at regular intervals. "Experts" began to emerge in the mass media each day, connecting certain aspects of Boston with the prior events in New York.

The public has never been able to hear and/or see either of the two (2) suspects alive and in their own voice. The only voice of the "suspects" that has ever been heard, has been the voice of the mass media.

My Opinion:

Terrorists love to brag about their conquests. They are not shy about coming forth and letting the entire world know that they committed some unimaginable and despicable act of mass violence against humanity. That's the MO of a real terrorist. A real terrorists wants you to know what they did, because without you knowing what they did, there would be no way for you to associate the act of terror with the identity of the terrorist. So, terrorists do not typically go commit an act of utter destruction and then go hide out under a tarp in a dry docked boat in somebodies back yard. A real terrorist is bold and ready to both kill and die for their cause. But, they would much rather live after the fact, so that they can brag to you about their "accomplishments."

None of that fits in this case.

These guys were on the run and we all know that real terrorist don't "run" they "escape." They escape to a place where you have a very hard time finding them. But, that's not the real reason why they seek to escape. They seek to escape so that they can have the freedom to brag to you from some remote location.

These two (2) guys stayed in Boston? Huh? The never got the heck out of dodge so that they could gloat over what they had done and so that they could send you a video tape later, explaining why they had committed the act? Huh? They seem to have broken all the rules of what it means to be a real terrorist. They highjacked a car? Huh? Really? Did they really do that? You mean that these real terrorist who were acting with such "military type precision" and like they had "rehearsed their maneuvers" several times before, basically forgot to arrange for their departure form the scene? Huh? Really?

What I want to see is at least one of these "suspects" speak for himself. I want to hear this "suspect" tell me that he did it. Why? Because no self-respecting genuine cold blooded terrorist of any real depth and/or dimension, will fail to tell the world about what he did and why he did it. If these guys committed these atrocities while acting in the name of terror, then they would have absolutely zero problem with admitting as much to the entire world, if given the opportunity.

After 911 and the subsequent actions taken in Iraq and Afghanistan, I have become very skeptical about "official stories" and "official story tellers." I want to hear it straight from the horses mouth, not the horses trainer, or the horses owner, or that 'other' end of the horse. Even now, CNN is telling me what happened blow-by-blow and play-by-play. That's ok. I'm good with that. But, this time I want to hear at least one of these guys say: "Yeah. I set the bomb off. I did it and you can fry me in the electric chair for all I care because I believed in my cause [insert stated terrorist cause here...]."

That's what I want. I don't want to be told anymore what I should think. I want to think for myself this time. Let me hear at least one of these guys tell me straight to my face that he did it. I will believe him and then I will support his total prosecution under the Law. Why? Because, no matter what happens we MUST remain a Nation of Laws and not a nation of scandalous retribution based on supposition, innuendo and hyper-speculation.

Regarding the Officer that was shot at MIT. Were there any eyewitnesses to the shooting that identified the shooter as being one of the suspects? Or, were we told that the shooter was one of the bombers? No.

FOX News Reports it this way:

Read more: MIT officer killed by Boston bombing suspects was well liked, chief says | Fox News
​

Why did these terrorists remain in the Boston area for nearly five (5) days after "successfully" pulling off what at that point was the next best hit on America since 911? Why not make prior arrangements get the heck out of dodge, so that they could send postcards and brag about what they had done like real terrorists like to do? Stick around? Hand out? Highjack other vehicles? If they had done what CNN had said they did in taking such great care to maneuver through this entire mission they had planned with "laser like precision" (as reported by CNN), then how did they manage to screw-up one of the most important aspects of any terrorists plan - to make sure they were able to call responsibility for their actions? They had to know that they would not be able to claim responsibility, if they got involved in a shoot out with half a billion Law Enforcement Agents. They had to know that much.

So, even when it comes to Officer Sean A. Collier, the only voice we have about his death is that of the "official story tellers."

I want to hear from the "Official Suspect." I want to hear him say: "Yep. That was my handiwork. I did that. And, I did it for the cause [insert terrorist cause here...]."

I want this guy to live. Because I want to hear him say that he did it, as no serious terrorist that had just finished their mission, would somehow all of a sudden grew a conscious about their own life and decide to go hide in a boat under a tarp, shaking and shivering like a cold fish.

Were these guys "radicalized?" Maybe so. I don't know yet. I want some answers, but most importantly, I want to hear this last surviving "suspect" tell the world that he did it. I don't want some Mass Media Expert telling me about how today's neo-terrorist just wants to mimic Osama Bin Laden, by striking out on their own, or how we should now be focused on Russian connections. I mean, get real. This is not in the style of the Kremlin. This does not have a Kremlin signature. An extremely low yield explosion at the Boston Marathon, is definitely not coming out of the Kremlin. That dog won't hunt.

I want do hear from this dude, personally. I want to hear his own voice. I want to see his real face after the fact, not these baby face videos and snapshots. I want to see the dude that is said to have done this, and then I want to actually hear him say that he did it.

From his lips to my ears.

What say you?

 

[Fiddytree]

Maybe it's the author's predisposition to see plots within plots that do not exist.

 

[PW4000]

And, before all the negativity and name calling starts as it always does around here, you should remember this: This country needs a voice like mine right now.

Whenever the masses are jumping on the lynch mob bandwagon like there is no tomorrow, the nation needs to be reminded that it is indeed still a Nation of Laws and that we believe in the fundamental principle of Due Process under the Law.

Else, tyranny and a permanent police state where Martial Law (cities on lock-down and shelter in orders) is the order of the day, will be far more plausible as an inevitable scenario. Getting you all pumped up about having "killed terrorists" while you completely forgot that your entire City was on lock-down in the process.

Whether you know it or not, a major city in the United States of America, just experienced what Martial Law will be like: "Do not allow anyone into your home or apartment, unless they are a Law Enforcement Official." Those were the words announced by Political Officials of Boston today, as quiet as that has been kept and as little as that has been talked about.

Those words are worth repeating:

"Do not allow anyone into your home or apartment, unless they are a Law Enforcement Official."

All I'm saying is that we should never forget about Due Process under the Law. Ever. Once you relinquish that, you have indeed relinquished the entire ball of wax.

 

[PW4000]

Maybe it's the author's predisposition to see plots within plots that do not exist.

Maybe you should try actually reading the post and its actual content before commenting.

 

[Wiggen]

Conspiracy Forum now, please. As in, this is where this belongs.

 

[Fiddytree]

Maybe you should try actually reading the post and its actual content before commenting.

Skimming works so much better if I am to read it at all.

 

[csense]

Terrorists love to brag about their conquests.

Organizations like to brag. Individuals who have been in the community for a decade, have a family and live and work amongst us don't. There's no doubt they were planning more of this. Why blow the perfect cover just to satisfy your amateurish drivel of what a fine upstanding terrorist should do...

 

[Anthony60]

Tin foil hat time! And one of the planes that hit the WTC fired a missile at it just before impact. And it was a controlled demolition on all three builds. LA LA LA LA! They're coming to take you away, ha ha!

 

[ecofarm]

So, the breaking news is that you have a funny feeling?

It might be gas.

 

[PW4000]

Why should we be informed of their medical status, and why wouldn't the FBI take this case? I'm honestly surprised that it isn't going straight to Homeland Security where it belongs.

The FBI is not responsible for the patients medical treatment. Though the FBI does employ Doctors, none of are the patients treating physician. Homeland Security's effectiveness here, is a misnomer in 'after the fact' cases. The act has already been committed. That means that Homeland Security failed in its duty. Homeland Security can work on 'after the fact' issues now, but it lost the opportunity to do their duty in this particular case.

Therefore, this matter is best handled in the Courts where it belongs. The acts committed were Criminal in nature. The methods and means used by the perpetrators should not define and/or alter the criminal nature of the act itself. If they committed a Criminal Act, then they should handled as Criminals and Due Process should apply.

Should the Gustin Gang Members of the 19th century Boston Street Gangs, have been handled by a "Homeland Security" type of agency of the Federal Government, or should they have dealt with like the notorious criminals they were? Should they have not been afforded Due Process under the Law? Should we have tossed out the constitution merely because they took to the streets of Boston to reek havoc on people and/or rival gangs?

Exactly where is that point at which we are all willing to burn the United States Constitution and its tenets to the ground? I for one, hope that we never reach that point in our society, because the day we do that will be the exact day that we truly lose all our freedoms as a nation.

I want to hear this guy say he did it - like a real terrorist should. I'll accept his word for it and lead in his prosecution, as I stated earlier.

However, if this guy comes strolling into the court room with that deer caught in the headlights look on his face, then I'm going to have to ask myself why. If he has the audacity to stand up inside a court room and proclaim his innocents, or claims that he has nothing to do with the matter, then I'm going to have some real stiff questions for the "official story tellers."

Remember, he's been defined 'officially' as a terrorists. That means that the officials in this matter know what they are talking about, right? Ok, then - let us hear this terrorist tell us that he did it. That's all I want.

Just stop and think about this for a minute. None of the 18/19/20 (depending on which original official story you subscribe to) terrorists involved in 911, were ever brought to justice by Law Enforcement. Nor, were they ever killed or captured on the battlefield. Now, here we have a live one on our hands. No doubt, a rare event. Let's take advantage of this opportunity to extract as much information from him as possible and let's hear him stand up like a real terrorist and say, "Yeah. It was me."

I don't see a particular problem with this request.

 

[Anthony60]

Oh, ya know, the terrorist just might not feel like getting up there and admitting to anything at all. They tend not to be very cooperative like that.

See, I had nothing to do with the bombing. But, I didn't decide to arm myself with weapons and bombs and battle it out with the police, just in case they thought I did it. But somebody did, and I really don't think it matters what they say, actions speak louder than words.

 

[specklebang]

I think the OP makes some interesting points. Our government is not incapable of bull****ting us. Our police agencies are not incapable of being wrong either.

To me it is a valid question. Why, oh why would you do this and then fail to hide? Did you really not know there are a zillion cameras? What exactly was the point?

 

[PW4000]

Conspiracy Forum now, please. As in, this is where this belongs.

Yes, yes, yes. Blind eye, deaf ear. We get it. No rational thought, please. That's not allowed anymore in this country. Let's just be willing to all go inside our homes and apartments and be put on lock-down, one event at a time, until we have become so accustomed to it, that we can no longer tell the difference between having rights and not having rights.

Why would anyone fear allowing this guy to speak? I simply want to hear him say: "Yep. You got me. I did it."

Why is that a problem? He's a terrorist, is he not? I mean, that's what he's been called by the officials, a terrorist. Ok, fine. I'll accept that label. I just want to hear this guy stand up and admit his position as being the same. If he denies being a terrorist, then we've got a big problem on our hands. If he simply accepts his role as a terrorists, then we can simply move to the prosecution phase and be done with the matter.

I'll lead in the prosecution, but I just want to hear the man say: "Sure, that's me in the video and yes, I did detonate the bomb because I am a terrorist and that's what good terrorist does. We blow crap up and then we admit to the world that we did it. That's who we are as terrorists."

If he comes out like that, then I'll pull the switch on the electric chair myself, if they do that in Boston. Or, I'll light the fire underneath his stake my darn self - because I don't like real terrorists on a personal level - if the truth be told.

However, I need to hear the guy give some kind of statement about his feelings related to what he's been charged with. Right now, I've got nothing from him at all. Zip. Zero. Nothing. All I've got is 24/7 wall-to-wall coverage telling me about how precise his actions were, right up to the point where he forgot to arrange for a get-away vehicle and where he forgot to get out of the City, where he knew that the entire planet would be looking for him.

I'm sorry if this kind of analysis offends you, but this is precisely the kind of analysis that each citizen of the United States of America needs at a time like this, regardless of what they have been charged with.

A REAL terrorist would have no problem whatsoever, standing up and simply saying that they did it. They want to brag. Heck, they need to brag. They keep telling on CNN about all the "professional nature" and "professional brio" that was involved in these attacks. Yet, they forgot their get-away car and they planned on remaining in the area five (5) days after the events?

I just want to the guy to live, so that he can tell me that he did it. As an American Citizen, I feel like I am owed that much form this dude, if he's the terrorist who committed these acts against the country I love so much. If he did this, then I want to see his face, hear his voice and know that he's exactly what he's thought to be: A Real Terrorist. After that, let the prosecution begin.

This should not be a problem for any real American Citizen who believes in Due Process and who loves their country.

 

[Surtr]

The FBI is not responsible for the patients medical treatment.

They aren't involved with treatment. They are,however, keeping guard over the suspects as they normally do with suspects of high profile crimes like this.

Though the FBI does employ Doctors, none of are the patients treating physician. Homeland Security's effectiveness here, is a misnomer in 'after the fact' cases. The act has already been committed. That means that Homeland Security failed in its duty. Homeland Security can work on 'after the fact' issues now, but it lost the opportunity to do their duty in this particular case.

I don't think you understand what DHS is, or does.

Therefore, this matter is best handled in the Courts where it belongs. The acts committed were Criminal in nature. The methods and means used by the perpetrators should not define and/or alter the criminal nature of the act itself. If they committed a Criminal Act, then they should handled as Criminals and Due Process should apply.

You do understand that there's a process involved before any suspect goes to court, right? A person isn't just accused and sent straight before a judge.

Should the Gustin Gang Members of the 19th century Boston Street Gangs, have been handled by a "Homeland Security" type of agency of the Federal Government, or should they have dealt with like the notorious criminals they were? Should they have not been afforded Due Process under the Law? Should we have tossed out the constitution merely because they took to the streets of Boston to reek havoc on people and/or rival gangs?

Exactly where is that point at which we are all willing to burn the United States Constitution and its tenets to the ground? I for one, hope that we never reach that point in our society, because the day we do that will be the exact day that we truly lose all our freedoms as a nation.

DHS is a law enforcement agency, and are subject to the same rules of due process as any other branch of law enforcement. You assume far too much.

I want to hear this guy say he did it - like a real terrorist should. I'll accept his word for it and lead in his prosecution, as I stated earlier.

This isn't Al Qaeda, it's two brothers who were a part of a community for a very long time. Assuming they are part of a larger terrorist organization, it's doubtful that they will say anything at all. It's not the perpetrators who make the announcements, anyway.

Remember, he's been defined 'officially' as a terrorists. That means that the officials in this matter know what they are talking about, right? Ok, then - let us hear this terrorist tell us that he did it. That's all I want.

It means they stand accused of terrorist actions against the public of the United States, and people in hell want ice water.

I don't see a particular problem with this request.

There's a lot that's wrong with your request, which is rooted entirely in ignorance of the FBI, Homeland Security, terrorism, what a terrorist actually is, and how they function.

 

[PW4000]

Oh, ya know, the terrorist just might not feel like getting up there and admitting to anything at all. They tend not to be very cooperative like that.

Really? Is that what a real terrorist does? Is that how a real terrorist behaves? They are reluctant to make Claims of Responsibility? Is that what happened in 911, U.S.S. Cole, Beirut, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., etc. Real terrorists have nothing at all, if they don't have the ability to Claim Responsibility. If a terrorists fails to claim responsibility, then they know that their deeds are worthless for the purpose of assisting their "cause" - however they perceive that in their minds. So, a real terrorist doesn't just want to brag, they NEED to brag. It is part of being a terrorists.

If you don't claim responsibility, then no one knows that you did it! Therefore, you acts are moot as it relates to being a terrorist. In fact, the very definition of what it means to be a terrorist also includes your ability to let everyone know what you just did! So, this notion that somehow, a real terrorist is going to run and hide from taking responsibility, is simply not based in reality.

Real terrorists have to be some of the biggest narcissists and self-promoters of their own handiwork on the planet. The MUST let you know what they do. That's their MO, Joe!

 

[Aunt Spiker]

So - all that just to say the guy wants to hear the criminal confess.

 

[Anthony60]

Really? Is that what a real terrorist does? Is that how a real terrorist behaves? They are reluctant to make Claims of Responsibility? Is that what happened in 911, U.S.S. Cole, Beirut, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., etc. Real terrorists have nothing at all, if they don't have the ability to Claim Responsibility. If a terrorists fails to claim responsibility, then they know that their deeds are worthless for the purpose of assisting their "cause" - however they perceive that in their minds. So, a real terrorist doesn't just want to brag, they NEED to brag. It is part of being a terrorists.

If you don't claim responsibility, then no one knows that you did it! Therefore, you acts are moot as it relates to being a terrorist. In fact, the very definition of what it means to be a terrorist also includes your ability to let everyone know what you just did! So, this notion that somehow, a real terrorist is going to run and hide from taking responsibility, is simply not based in reality.

Real terrorists have to be some of the biggest narcissists and self-promoters of their own handiwork on the planet. The MUST let you know what they do. That's their MO, Joe!

That's just some kind of fantasy. You are just making up rules that you say this guy must follow, out of thin air. He must get up there and admit to being a terrorist because... uh... you say so. Huh??? You really have to take a step back and take a look at what a ridiculous position that is.

He's a killer. He doesn't give a crap about rules. A guy that leaves a bomb on the sidewalk among innocent people does not give a rats butt what rules you've decided to set down for his behavior. He would just kill you if he had a chance.
Imagine that, a guilty party getting up in court and saying he didn't do it. Yeah, that never happens. For God's sake, O.J. said he didn't do it.

 

[csense]

Did you really not know there are a zillion cameras?

There were also a zillion people there. It's called urban camouflage.

A lot of people don't know this, but they had a description of the younger brother soon after the explosion. One of the victims, who had one of his legs blown off, was an eyewitness and he saw the suspect place the bomb by the eight year old kid. Said he looked him straight in the eyes. From what I've been told, this victim made it a point to relay this information to the cops before he was even taken to the hospital.

 

[ecofarm]

Wait, I think I'm getting a that strange feeling too!

 

[PW4000]

They aren't involved with treatment. They are,however, keeping guard over the suspects as they normally do with suspects of high profile crimes like this.

Keeping guard over a suspect is not reporting on a patients medical condition. I sounds like maybe you don't know the difference between a law enforcement role and a medical physicians role. They are not the same, obviously. Trying to equate the two is moot. The patient has Doctors and those Doctors are qualified to report on his medical condition, not the FBI. The FBI is qualified to report on the suspects condition as a suspect, not as a patient.

I don't think you understand what DHS is, or does.

So, educate me on what DHS is, or does, if I don't already know.

You do understand that there's a process involved before any suspect goes to court, right? A person isn't just accused and sent straight before a judge.

No, I never knew that. I thought we just shoot people in the streets, during a period when the entire city is on lock-down, so that there would be no witnesses in the way you were going about your business in getting rid of a patsy. However, I could be wrong.

Oh, you meant the "suspect?" Oh, I see. Yeah, sure. I'm almost 100% positive that he'll receive Due Process under the Law.

BTW - how do account for reports from his friends and associates who tell you that one of these bombing suspects was a literal: "Walking Angel?" What do you say to his friends and associates who tell you that one of these guys was an "excellent and good father?"

One of these guys went from being a "Walking Angel" to Satan incarnate and nobody within his sphere of influence either knew it, or saw it coming? And, I'm the one that does not know what's going on here?

A bit more differential analysis of the facts might help you.

DHS is a law enforcement agency, and are subject to the same rules of due process as any other branch of law enforcement. You assume far too much.

And, you don't assume enough. Your problem is that DHS is also tasked with preventing terrorists acts on American soil, before they happen. So, in this regard, DHS failed. Now, DHS is involved in the supposed 'after-the-fact' clean-up on the mess.

How will this expand the Patriot Act? Do you know?

This isn't Al Qaeda, it's two brothers who were a part of a community for a very long time. Assuming they are part of a larger terrorist organization, it's doubtful that they will say anything at all. It's not the perpetrators who make the announcements, anyway.

Oh, I see. They were part of a community for a very long time and then just decided to explode for no good reason at all. Is that what you are telling me? Because, if that is the official story, then I'm not buying it. They notion that they assimilated into our society, lived in our community, went to our institutions of higher education, had children, had families ties, had friends and associates who called them "Walking Angels" and then made a 180-degree change of heading in their disposition, mindset, character, integrity, morals, ethics and set out to kill innocent people that they did not know, had never met, had no connection to whatsoever, is a bit beyond the limits of incredulity for me to swallow in just five (5) days time - without asking the question: WHY?

There's a lot that's wrong with your request, which is rooted entirely in ignorance of the FBI, Homeland Security, terrorism, what a terrorist actually is, and how they function.

I think you are the ignorant one here. You jump to illogical conclusions without an established underlying premise; you accept what you are TOLD instead of applying differential analysis of the facts using your own brain; you have no authentic idea what you are really talking about and you only know what the mass media has told you; you just witnessed a one-sided angle of gunfire that alleges a bombing suspect was shot dead, yet you have not been able to hear one iota from any of the suspects themselves and your ONLY view to anything about them have been in yet more low resolution videos where many people in the exact same crowd could have been carrying any number of bombs in their bags as well.

You are not using your head on this one. Not by a long shot. You are not remaining logical. Logically, we have nothing on these guys. Absolutely, nothing but video claims about their suspect nature and near military like movements. Yet, they remained in town and forgot their getaway vehicle. There is no direct physical tie between them and the bomb, any bomb making materials, or even the location where the actual bombs were detonated.

In fact, if the truth were really being told here, we don't even know if the guys depicted in the video, are the same two (2) guys that were said to have been shot today. We simply do not know, because the entire city was on lock-down during the initial shooting of the "suspects," there were no witnesses to the shooting of the MIT Officer after 10:30 pm eastern and there were no subsequent witnesses to the shootout with the one that managed to temporarily get away after the initial shoot out.

And, by the way - how on earth was this guy able to temporarily escape AFTER the initial shootout, WHEN the entire City on under what you can basically call Martial Law? Who was this guy, Steven Seagal?

Now, what do we have? We've got the FBI putting itself in the position to give you the "health status" of the patient/suspect.

Look, all I'm asking for is that this guy get Indicted by a Grand Jury and the matter scheduled on the Court calendar for prosecution. After that, I want to see him stroll into the Court Room and simply accept his role in this. I'm not saying he did not commit the crime, but at this stage, based on the evidence that I have been presented with (precious little), I am also not ready to assume that he did either.

 

[hfd]

Well the OP is right. I have it on good source that the perps were actually three white, overwight Tea Party members, gun toters, racist NASCAR fans from Birmingham, Alabama. One is named Bubba, the other twp are named Larry and Darrell. We just want to accuse somebody who has Muslim ties. It's all a plot to support the Bible Thumpers' accusations that Islam is the religion of the Devil. There, now you know the truth.

 

[Sarcogito]

Some terrorists are smart enough to plan an appropriate escape. Others aren't. These guys seem to have fortunately made some stupid mistakes in their planning. Not every terrorist has the intelligence or resources that OBL had.

 

[donsutherland1]

Your problem is that DHS is also tasked with preventing terrorists acts on American soil, before they happen. So, in this regard, DHS failed. Now, DHS is involved in the supposed 'after-the-fact' clean-up on the mess.

No matter how one tries to prevent terrorist attacks, there is always a probability that isolated ones will get through. Resources are not unlimited, information is not perfect, and certainty is not a fact of life in the our probabalistic world. No person or organization, public or private, should be judged against the unrealistic measuring stick of perfection.