Dems starting to panic

[Captain America]

Austin is a lot like Madison, Wisconsin where the University of Wisconsin is, a bastion of liberalism. Austin is hardly representative of TX

Also, Madison, with it's campuses and state capitol building LOOKS a lot like Austin... sorta. However, Austin is a LOT more attractive.

Funny how places like Austin and Madison, as well as other places of higher education, migrate towards liberalism. Wonder why that is?

 

[Conservative]

My family lives in the Woodlands too! Nice place. Keep the traffic though. LOL!

Yep, moved here when there were 33,000 people and now there are over 105,000. Traffic can be terrible at times but the widening of the Parkway has really helped. We do love it here, 99 holes of golf

 

[Conservative]

Also, Madison, with it's campuses and state capitol building LOOKS a lot like Austin... sorta. However, Austin is a LOT more attractive.

Funny how places like Austin and Madison, as well as other places of higher education, migrate towards liberalism. Wonder why that is?

Great question, don't have a good answer for you. there does appear to be a lot of liberal guilt out there for individual successes and the success of this country. Don't understand why but I grew up a conservative and even was a Democrat for years, until the Democrat Party left me. Too many people IMO opinion continue to drink the Democrat Kool-aid and ignore what the Democrat Party is promoting today. Seems instead of equal opportunity it is equal outcome and I just cannot buy into that philosophy.

 

[MSgt]

Democrats are starting to panic? Are they afraid that its going to be the Republicans turn to screw things up?

 

[Ockham]

Funny how places like Austin and Madison, as well as other places of higher education, migrate towards liberalism. Wonder why that is?

I think teaching is a rather homogeneous part of society. I think you'll find a majority of college professors and administrators are "liberal". That feeds into the younger minds who, from the start of school, are taught by mostly liberal public school systems. It seems fairly easy for the college bound to enter into a very liberal mindset throughout their school which is about 20+ years depending on the degree and concentration. That there are still, according to some polls, 50% or more who, in this country identify themselves as "conservative" is probably close to a miracle.


Now taking WikiPedia with a pinch of salt here on the numbers ...

The vast majority of the population, 85.2%, had finished high school and over a quarter, 27.7%, had earned a Bachelor's degree. The percentage of both college and high school graduates continued to increase since 2000. Since 1983 the percentage of people graduating from high school has increased from 85% to 88%. The greatest increases in educational attainment were documented in the 1950s, 60s and 70s. In the 1950s and much of the 1960s high school graduates constituted about 50% of those considered adults (25 and above). The young adults aged between 25 and 29, percentage of high school graduates was roughly 50% in 1950 versus 90% today.

SOURCE

Amazing there are so many conservatives or Republicans for that matter. So something must happen between liberal college and some later age when these people finally figure out how life really works - and some must change their minds from their earlier life. The famous quote about being young and liberal comes to mind and seems fairly accurate.

 

[Harshaw]

Also, Madison, with it's campuses and state capitol building LOOKS a lot like Austin... sorta. However, Austin is a LOT more attractive.

Funny how places like Austin and Madison, as well as other places of higher education, migrate towards liberalism. Wonder why that is?

I think you'd need more than two examples before you start looking into any conclusions along those lines. Plus, you'd probably want to check the timeline.

 

[Boo Radley]

:2wave:

Who helped your parents or their parents through their "rough patch?" Over two years of unemployment benefits?

I listen to that voice inside my head and it isn't logical to provide people with over 2 years of unemployment benefits and it does destroy incentive.

It does appear that you think only with your heart and not your brain. What Obama is doing is unsustainable and what you continue to ignore is the cost of the programs he is implementing.

By the way are you following England and their switch back to the private sector for their healthcare program which they realize is bankrupting them? Or is it liberal insanity by doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result?

I just don't understand people like you who never view history so you make the same mistake over and over again.

The government helpd both.

And the voice in your head not withstanding, I have not used my heart at all in our discussions. You spend far too much time wrestiling that strawman over there.. Please step back here and debate what I have put before you.

 

[Glinda]

Please, answer the question asked,

Conservative doesn't work like that. His style is to fling around a lot of lies and utterly unfounded innuendo, then refuse to respond when called on his ridiculous assertions. I'm still waiting for him to tell us about all these imaginary unemployed people who are turning down jobs.

and don't go down the partisan hack playbook path.

It's much too late for that. He's way out there where the buses don't run.

 

[Conservative]

Conservative doesn't work like that. His style is to fling around a lot of lies and utterly unfounded innuendo, then refuse to respond when called on his ridiculous assertions. I'm still waiting for him to tell us about all these imaginary unemployed people who are turning down jobs.



It's much too late for that. He's way out there where the buses don't run.

Yes, Glinda, you have me figured out, I love posting data from that Conservative partisan Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis and of course the checkbook of the United States. That coupled with reading the MSM which daily challenges the accuracy of Obama statements indeed makes me a partisan political hack. Thank you, Boo, Donc, Randel, and of course my favorite disneydude for keeping me straight and for being there to refute those totally partisan sites and of course to interpret what Obama really meant when he said that his stimulus plan would keep unemployment from reaching 8% and that he would cut the deficit in half his first term. I continue to learn so much from you.

By the way, isn't this just awesome! Makes me want to revoke my screen name and become a true liberal

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...dding-Expected-to-Cost-Up-to-5M-99310984.html

 

[Glinda]

Yes, Glinda, you have me figured out, I love posting data from that Conservative partisan Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis and of course the checkbook of the United States. That coupled with reading the MSM which daily challenges the accuracy of Obama statements indeed makes me a partisan political hack. Thank you, Boo, Donc, Randel, and of course my favorite disneydude for keeping me straight and for being there to refute those totally partisan sites and of course to interpret what Obama really meant when he said that his stimulus plan would keep unemployment from reaching 8% and that he would cut the deficit in half his first term. I continue to learn so much from you.

What a steaming load of dissembling bull****. Do you EVER post honestly? :roll:

Here are the questions - which have NOTHING to do with "Obama's statements" or "reading the MSM" - that you have failed to answer/provide documentation for:

it is your liberalism that is going to keep you dependent or keep you underperforming for your entire life.

1. You imagine that you know everything about my work history and income over the last 40 years. I think we'd all be interested to hear you to expound on your detailed and in-depth knowledge of my supposed "dependence" and "lifelong underperformance" in the realm of employment.

all those poor unemployed people who have been unemployed for over a year yet refuse to take a lesser paying job.

2. I'm extremely interested in seeing your research/stats on "people who have been unemployed for over a year yet refuse to take a lesser-paying job." How many people did you survey to come to this conclusion? How did you get their names/contact information? What clinical definition of "lesser-paying job" did you use in your documented study (a buck less an hour, a thousand less a month… what, exactly?) Precisely how many individuals in your study were offered a "lesser-paying job" and refused it? Were there any at all that did accept a "lesser-paying job," or has your research proven that this supposed refusal to accept a "lesser-paying job" is an across-the-board, hard-and-cold fact for every individual that has been unemployed for over a year? FYI: Legitimate documentation, or it didn't happen.

Imagine going for an interview with a resume showing no employment for over a year. Why would any employer hire someone like that or someone like you?

3. Given your absolute and overarching disdain for those who have found themselves out of work for an extended time through no fault of their own, why the **** would you even CARE if someone's resume includes a gap in employment? And why would you imagine we'd believe you care? Nothing you've revealed to date backs this up.

Final thought: I challenge you to view this Dateline NBC program in its entirety, and continue with your patently ridiculous insistence that those who are unemployed are refusing "lesser-paying jobs."

 

[Conservative]

Conservative doesn't work like that. His style is to fling around a lot of lies and utterly unfounded innuendo, then refuse to respond when called on his ridiculous assertions. I'm still waiting for him to tell us about all these imaginary unemployed people who are turning down jobs.



It's much too late for that. He's way out there where the buses don't run.

Well deserved as they are all working so hard "for the American people" and are suffering like all Americans today from that Bush recession. We all need to take a vacation to Spain.

Michelle, Sasha Obama to take a summer break in Spain

 

[Conservative]

What a steaming load of dissembling bull****. Do you EVER post honestly? :roll:

Here are the questions - which have NOTHING to do with "Obama's statements" or "reading the MSM" - that you have failed to answer/provide documentation for:



1. You imagine that you know everything about my work history and income over the last 40 years. I think we'd all be interested to hear you to expound on your detailed and in-depth knowledge of my supposed "dependence" and "lifelong underperformance" in the realm of employment.



2. I'm extremely interested in seeing your research/stats on "people who have been unemployed for over a year yet refuse to take a lesser-paying job." How many people did you survey to come to this conclusion? How did you get their names/contact information? What clinical definition of "lesser-paying job" did you use in your documented study (a buck less an hour, a thousand less a month… what, exactly?) Precisely how many individuals in your study were offered a "lesser-paying job" and refused it? Were there any at all that did accept a "lesser-paying job," or has your research proven that this supposed refusal to accept a "lesser-paying job" is an across-the-board, hard-and-cold fact for every individual that has been unemployed for over a year? FYI: Legitimate documentation, or it didn't happen.



3. Given your absolute and overarching disdain for those who have found themselves out of work for an extended time through no fault of their own, why the **** would you even CARE if someone's resume includes a gap in employment? And why would you imagine we'd believe you care? Nothing you've revealed to date backs this up.

Final thought: I challenge you to view this Dateline NBC program in its entirety, and continue with your patently ridiculous insistence that those who are unemployed are refusing "lesser-paying jobs."

You are absolutely correct, all are incapable of getting a job and need taxpayer funding for over 2 years. I am so glad that you are there to point out that conservatives demanding that people take lesser jobs to keep their resume current and send the proper message to potential employers is cruel and lacking in compassion. The fact that we have 16 million unemployed Americans today has nothing to do at all with over two years of unemployment insurance and it remains those cruel employers who aren't employing people that are long term unemployed for after all those long term unemployed gained value work experience during those days on unemployment insurance.

I am sure that the incentive to get a job is a lot greater when people are receiving unemployment insurance than they are not receiving that insurance. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Glinda]

You are absolutely correct, all are incapable of getting a job and need taxpayer funding for over 2 years. I am so glad that you are there to point out that conservatives demanding that people take lesser jobs to keep their resume current and send the proper message to potential employers is cruel and lacking in compassion. The fact that we have 16 million unemployed Americans today has nothing to do at all with over two years of unemployment insurance and it remains those cruel employers who aren't employing people that are long term unemployed for after all those long term unemployed gained value work experience during those days on unemployment insurance.

I am sure that the incentive to get a job is a lot greater when people are receiving unemployment insurance than they are not receiving that insurance. Thanks for the insight.

:yawn: More dissembling. More attempts to misdirect. More failure to back up your own bull**** assertions.

And yet... still no answers to the questions posed.

Loser.

 

[Glinda]

Well deserved as they are all working so hard "for the American people" and are suffering like all Americans today from that Bush recession. We all need to take a vacation to Spain.

Michelle, Sasha Obama to take a summer break in Spain

WTF does this have to do with anything I've said?

Are you drinking? :doh

 

[Donc]

WTF does this have to do with anything I've said?

Are you drinking? :doh

Too much morning Kool-Aid. :mrgreen:

 

[Conservative]

:yawn: More dissembling. More attempts to misdirect. More failure to back up your own bull**** assertions.

And yet... still no answers to the questions posed.

Loser.

Look, I am a conservative and thus to a liberal a liar and someone out of touch with reality. I live in a dream world and cannot be taken seriously. To answer your questions would be to open myself up to more scrutiny and humiliation. All those 16 million(that conservative site bls.gov) reports getting over two years of UI are poor misguided individuals that private business always takes advantage of and thus it is compassionate to give them over 2 years UI. My question is why not 3 years or 5 years. Let's really be compassionate!

 

[randel]

WTF does this have to do with anything I've said?

Are you drinking? :doh

be careful, you are challenging him to much, he will put you on ignore like he did me:mrgreen:

 

[Conservative]

WTF does this have to do with anything I've said?

Are you drinking? :doh

We are all in an economic mess created by GW Bush and thus it is very timely and responsible to take a vacation to Spain. It has nothing to do with anything especially since Obama said a day or so ago that he understands what the average American is going through during this recession and he and the family are feeling our pain.

 

[randel]

We are all in an economic mess created by GW Bush and thus it is very timely and responsible to take a vacation to Spain. It has nothing to do with anything especially since Obama said a day or so ago that he understands what the average American is going through during this recession and he and the family are feeling our pain.

you taking a vacation this year? again, having run that 200 mil company, you should be pretty flush and all....

 

[Glinda]

Look, I am a conservative and thus to a liberal a liar and someone out of touch with reality. I live in a dream world and cannot be taken seriously. To answer your questions would be to open myself up to more scrutiny and humiliation. All those 16 million(that conservative site bls.gov) reports getting over two years of UI are poor misguided individuals that private business always takes advantage of and thus it is compassionate to give them over 2 years UI. My question is why not 3 years or 5 years. Let's really be compassionate!

:yawn: Still no answers to the questions posed.

Loser.

 

[Glinda]

We are all in an economic mess created by GW Bush and thus it is very timely and responsible to take a vacation to Spain. It has nothing to do with anything especially since Obama said a day or so ago that he understands what the average American is going through during this recession and he and the family are feeling our pain.

:yawn: Still no answers to the questions posed.

Loser.

 

[Conservative]

:yawn: Still no answers to the questions posed.

Loser.

Obviously I am a loser but I find it interesting that you don't anything about me and came to that conclusion because of a post I made. You are incredibly insightful and truly brilliant. I have learned a lot from this forum and the people in it especially those that I believe supported Obama. It makes no sense to answer direct questions with answers that this group cannot accept and will pounce on as being rightwing propaganda especially when those rightwing sites, bls, bea, and the U.S. Treasury provides the data. I simply lack the education and knowledge acceptable to you so it would be a waste of time responding to your thorough, thoughtful, and intelligent posts. I now know that 16 million Americans have incentive to get a job because of the over two years of UI and further now realize that over two years is not enough and will be contacting my conservative Representative Kevin Brady to get that extended to five years. That way I will establish myself as more compassionate than you and look forward to membership in the liberal movement in America.

 

[randel]

Obviously I am a loser but I find it interesting that you don't anything about me and came to that conclusion because of a post I made. You are incredibly insightful and truly brilliant. I have learned a lot from this forum and the people in it especially those that I believe supported Obama. It makes no sense to answer direct questions with answers that this group cannot accept and will pounce on as being rightwing propaganda especially when those rightwing sites, bls, bea, and the U.S. Treasury provides the data. I simply lack the education and knowledge acceptable to you so it would be a waste of time responding to your thorough, thoughtful, and intelligent posts. I now know that 16 million Americans have incentive to get a job because of the over two years of UI and further now realize that over two years is not enough and will be contacting my conservative Representative Kevin Brady to get that extended to five years. That way I will establish myself as more compassionate than you and look forward to membership in the liberal movement in America.

just like you don't know anything about the millions out of work, but yet pass judgement on them...funny how that works

 

[Compatibilist]

Amazing there are so many conservatives or Republicans for that matter. So something must happen between liberal college and some later age when these people finally figure out how life really works - and some must change their minds from their earlier life. The famous quote about being young and liberal comes to mind and seems fairly accurate.

It's called getting out in the real world and taking on some responsibility... along with working hard and having some success which allows you to have freedom and independence from govt services. At that point you also have the freedom to choose where your kids go to school and where you want to live along with a whole lotta other things. At least that's what happened to me and many other I know.

 

[Glinda]

Obviously I am a loser but I find it interesting that you don't anything about me and came to that conclusion because of a post I made.

"A" post? :lamo

You are a loser because you constantly make ridiculous statements/assertions that you cannot document or validate, and when challenged, you go off on some bizarro sarcastic tangent in hopes of avoiding admitting your own stupidity.

1. You claim that all my life I have been "dependent" and have "under-performed" as an employee. Back it up or suck it up, pal.

2. You claim that there are millions of "people who have been unemployed for over a year yet refuse to take a lesser-paying job." Back it up or suck it up, pal.

3. You pretend to be concerned for those who will have a gap in employment on their resumes. Back it up or suck it up, pal.

:2wave: