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Democratic Socialism is to be shunned?

X Factor said:
Well, now, “better” is subjective isn’t it? Capitalism has played a large part in the success (understanding that success is also subjective) of this country, we should abandon it now? I don’t want government to pay my way, I want it out of my way.
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Most of these benefits have nothing to do with the government paying your way.

Railroads and river barges played a large part in your success as well. Do you still rely to them to the same extent you did 80 years ago? Or has new technology and practices replaced them, to drive your economy higher?

Personally I think you're just scared of a word. There can be no other explanation. The wish to stop evolving is counter to our most basic elements of our identity as a species. America was great because it kept moving forward. Now a large portion of you are afraid of that. No wonder you're in the mess you're in - and that's said with sincere sympathy and concern.
 
OlNate said:
Most of these benefits have nothing to do with the government paying your way.

Railroads and river barges played a large part in your success as well. Do you still rely to them to the same extent you did 80 years ago? Or has new technology and practices replaced them, to drive your economy higher?

Personally I think you're just scared of a word. There can be no other explanation. The wish to stop evolving is counter to our most basic elements of our identity as a species. America was great because it kept moving forward. Now a large portion of you are afraid of that. No wonder you're in the mess you're in - and that's said with sincere sympathy and concern.
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Railroads and river barges are a perfect example of private enterprise, Nate.
 
OlNate said:
Yeah, the global economic crash he inherited from Bush was easy peasy. :lamo
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Sure it was. He never got blamed for anything. :lamo
 
X Factor said:
Oh, yeah, I recall all the “respect” afforded to Bush.
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There will be none of this is what I mean. He will not be welcome.

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apdst said:
Sure it was. He never got blamed for anything. :lamo
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Mm...I dunno. You think it might have something to do with him being far less of a dumbass than Trump? Or was it just that he was more presidential, so people cut him some slack, like they did the rest of your presidents?
 
OlNate said:
Mm...I dunno. You think it might have something to do with him being far less of a dumbass than Trump? Or was it just that he was more presidential, so people cut him some slack, like they did the rest of your presidents?
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It's because the media treated him with kid gloves. Not because he wasn't a dumbass. :lamo
 
apdst said:
They love him now that he trash talks Trump...lol
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He spent his entire presidency trying to gain favor with the press that hated him. I guess he still wants it.
 
apdst said:
Railroads and river barges are a perfect example of private enterprise, Nate.
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Um, they are both examples of industries that had and have huge inputs of govt subsidization.
 
apdst said:
It's because the media treated him with kid gloves. Not because he wasn't a dumbass. :lamo
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We control all media. Nothing you can do
 
apdst said:
Railroads and river barges are a perfect example of private enterprise, Nate.
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They are. Including their downward curve. Look at how many railroads are bike trails now. The point was that things that work great get replaced when something better comes along. You conservatives are a results focussed group, despite being painfully slow to adapt or change. Surely the results posted here are easily enough seen to be superior - they live longer, they make more money, their pursuit of happiness appears to be more successful, etc, you saw the list. I can see a couple of those items being problematic for diehard Republicans, but the majority of them are only to be considered controversial because of the government system that delivered them. Why are you guys so threatened when anyone else finds a better way?
 
apdst said:
It's because the media treated him with kid gloves. Not because he wasn't a dumbass. :lamo
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I still dunno, man... A large part of Trump's initial success was simply riding Obama's curve. I'll be perfectly clear, as I have before: Obama was not the second coming. But he was as decent a president as any I can remember.

As for how the media treated him...hehe... I'm not so sure about those kid gloves.





We seem to have a different remembering of the events... ;)
 
apdst said:
Um, yeah, but no...lol. Not in the beginning, anyway.
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Good grief, ESPECIALLY in "the beginning", the Indians did not put themselves in res's, land grants/ROW's did not spontaneously happen, canals did not dig themselves, nor did bays and rivers clear themselves or build their own ports.

WTF!!
 
Luckyone said:
I continue to see OP after OP and post after post mentioning Socialism as a huge negative we need to avoid. The reason why the Democrats should be shunned and not voted for. How Socialism is going to lead us down an abyss of no return.

Let me clarify something for you. There is the kind of Socialism that is bad, such as is found in China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc. There is also Democratic Socialism like what is found in Norway, Finland, and Denmark



The Communistic Socialist countries like the ones mentioned above with authoritarian leaders such as Xi, Putin, Castro, Maduro and Kim have authoritarian leaders. They are the ones that decide everything. Those are the ones to be shunned. BTW, it is funny that Trump is trying to be an authoritarian leader, much like those mentioned above. Could that mean he actually is more dangerous to us becoming Socialist than through Sanders or Warren?

Democratic Socialism, as some of the Democrat leaders want to have (Sanders and Warren) are not looking to be authoritarian. They are looking for the change through Democracy. Through voting, which means that only the good things of Socialism would be adopted. It would be a rule by the majority and not by an authoritarian leader.

Big difference.

Here is a meme that shows exactly what the difference is between a Democratic Socialist country such as Norway and where we are now with our unfettered Capitalistic country.

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By the way, notice that the tax rate is not all that different.
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If you like socialism so much why havent you moved?
 
AlphaOmega said:
If you like socialism so much why havent you moved?
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I think it's because some people would rather improve their own country. Don't you want to improve your country?
 
The country with "unfettered capitalism" is the same country where a lemonade stand run by a little girl will be shut down by the government.
 
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