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Democratic Socialism is to be shunned?

apdst said:
You said socialism: same difference.
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There is quite the difference, particularly in practical application. But I also didn't say socialism.
 
X Factor said:
If Norway is this perfect utopia, why not move there? I’m not saying you should, or that you need to leave America if you don’t love it, but really, if one nation already has everything you want, why not go there?
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By that measure you guys should all move to Russia where the right wing rules over everybody instead of trying to bring Russia here. Real Americans take notice of other nations and strive to make us better from what we learn.
 
apdst said:
IOW, you're a fair weather patriot?
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No, I am a patriot to people that earn my respect and trust. I do not respect or trust Trump. I would not put my life at risk for him.
 
iguanaman said:
By that measure you guys should all move to Russia where the right wing rules over everybody instead of trying to bring Russia here. Real Americans take notice of other nations and strive to make us better from what we learn.
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Well said
 
iguanaman said:
By that measure you guys should all move to Russia where the right wing rules over everybody instead of trying to bring Russia here. Real Americans take notice of other nations and strive to make us better from what we learn.
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Sure, “real Americans” want this to be some other country.
 
iguanaman said:
I would not be surprised if Trump moves to Russia next year to avoid prosecution. maybe some of his supporters will follow. We can only hope.
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Don’t count on it. Lots of lefties were supposed to leave when Trump was elected, but didn’t.
 
Luckyone said:
No, I am a patriot to people that earn my respect and trust. I do not respect or trust Trump. I would not put my life at risk for him.
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That doesn't explain why you're ashamed of being a citizen of the republic.
 
Ikari said:
There is quite the difference, particularly in practical application. But I also didn't say socialism.
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What did you mean, then?
 
apdst said:
That doesn't explain why you're ashamed of being a citizen of the republic.
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All Americans should be ashamed of Trump. He is a one term mistake that will be rectified shortly. And do not think he will get the respect we give other former Presidents either. He won't get diddly and there will be an asterisk next to his name indicating his election may have not been legal.
 
iguanaman said:
All Americans should be ashamed of Trump. He is a one term mistake that will be rectified shortly.
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He said he's ashamed of being a citizen of the republic.
 
Luckyone said:
I continue to see OP after OP and post after post mentioning Socialism as a huge negative we need to avoid. The reason why the Democrats should be shunned and not voted for. How Socialism is going to lead us down an abyss of no return.

Let me clarify something for you. There is the kind of Socialism that is bad, such as is found in China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc. There is also Democratic Socialism like what is found in Norway, Finland, and Denmark



The Communistic Socialist countries like the ones mentioned above with authoritarian leaders such as Xi, Putin, Castro, Maduro and Kim have authoritarian leaders. They are the ones that decide everything. Those are the ones to be shunned. BTW, it is funny that Trump is trying to be an authoritarian leader, much like those mentioned above. Could that mean he actually is more dangerous to us becoming Socialist than through Sanders or Warren?

Democratic Socialism, as some of the Democrat leaders want to have (Sanders and Warren) are not looking to be authoritarian. They are looking for the change through Democracy. Through voting, which means that only the good things of Socialism would be adopted. It would be a rule by the majority and not by an authoritarian leader.

Big difference.

Here is a meme that shows exactly what the difference is between a Democratic Socialist country such as Norway and where we are now with our unfettered Capitalistic country.

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By the way, notice that the tax rate is not all that different.
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It's clear you need to move to Norway. Say hi to Uncle Sven.
 
iguanaman said:
All Americans should be ashamed of Trump. He is a one term mistake that will be rectified shortly. And do not think he will get the respect we give other former Presidents either. He won't get diddly and there will be an asterisk next to his name indicating his election may have not been legal.
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Oh, yeah, I recall all the “respect” afforded to Bush.
 
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