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What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller/com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
Nothing, I don't live in Venezuela, it's a corrupt kleptocracy being run by a table of thieves.
It is doubtful a group like Chavez, Maduro, et al would make a good run of it no matter what economic system they claimed, because a kleptocracy is a kleptocracy any way you slice it.
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
Who cares? Why do Americans need to pick a side for Venezuela?
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
Nothing, I don't live in Venezuela, it's a corrupt kleptocracy being run by a table of thieves.
It is doubtful a group like Chavez, Maduro, et al would make a good run of it no matter what economic system they claimed, because a kleptocracy is a kleptocracy any way you slice it.
Who cares? Why do Americans need to pick a side for Venezuela?
Start worrying about America and stop trying to distract with bull****.
You can't say much about a foreign country when you can't even run your own.
Should American politicians stay out of foreign affairs? You are aware both Trump and Putin are involved in Venezuela and back different sides? Should Congress stay the heck out of it? How about liberal journalists who seem more capable of discussing the issues than AOC?
The problem is Maduro is an undemocratic bastard but this Guaido guy just came out of nowhere and proclaimed himself president. Neither looks like a democratic choice at this point. If he seizes power with the backing of the army the economy might improve but good luck with future elections.
One however will probably privatize state oil fields and that appeals to at least one Party in the US...
So I'd say the world is between a rock an a hard place, and especially Venezuela. I suppose any alternative looks good to them at the moment but they might be choosing between a dictator and a potential one.
You are talking to someone that thinks we (as in the US government) should not be meddling in ANY foreign affairs nor should we be bribing hostile nations with foreign aid. So yeah, I'm aware of what politicians do. That doesn't mean I have to like it or support it. I don't take ANY sides in Venezuela because both sides are corrupt as hell and it doesn't have anything to do with capitalistic or socialist policies. Both sides are corrupt, period.
I think Trump and his advisers know the world leaders must stay involved in some of the troubled affairs of other nations subject to seizure by corrupt operators in rogue states. If the wrong actors seize control of Venezuela then Venezuela could very quickly become the launch pad of a very serious threat to the continental US.
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
What do American democrat socialists have to say about Venezuela? Nothing. What can they say?
OCASIO-CORTEZ DECLINES TO PICK SIDES IN VENEZUELA FIGHT AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS DEMAND SHE RESIST 'AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.'
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-venezuela-maduro-trump/
Which side are American socialists on in the fight, Trump's man or Putin's man?
One can only hope socialists like Ocasio can learn something from the collapse of Venezuela due to socialist foolishness.
Nothing, I don't live in Venezuela, it's a corrupt kleptocracy being run by a table of thieves.
It is doubtful a group like Chavez, Maduro, et al would make a good run of it no matter what economic system they claimed, because a kleptocracy is a kleptocracy any way you slice it.
Except that it is not accurate to use a brush that large and blunt to describe an American Democrat with center-left social democrat leanings as the exact equivalent of a despotic dictator in a Latin American country that subscribes to "Bolivarian/Marxist" confiscatory socialism.
It's like putting a Volkswagen Beetle next to a Bugatti Veyron and calling them both "Bugs".
A VW Beetle is a 53 horsepower German economy car popularized by the nickname "Bug" which came with an original price tag under two thousand dollars and which had a top speed of around 75 mph (65 recommended to extend engine life) and was extolled as "the People's Car".
The Bugatti Veyron is a 1500 horsepower luxury "hypercar", ALSO made by Volkswagen (Bugatti is owned by VW) which has a top speed of nearly 270 miles per hour, has TEN radiators, four turbos and sixteen cylinders, and a price tag of over two million dollars.
It's like putting a Sears riding lawnmower next to a John Deere 9620R and calling them both "garden tractors".
I'm not demanding that you accept Ocasio-Cortez, I am suggesting that the notion that she adheres to the values of Hugo Chavez and has plans to attempt implementing Venezuelan socialism in America is absurd.
It's beyond hyperbole. There isn't even a word in the English language to describe something that far off the scale exaggerated.
We should lift the sanctions (which are an act of war) & stay the hell out of the country. Let those people decide what government they want.
Also 80% of business in VZ is privately owed. So its not as socialists as you may think.
Should American politicians stay out of foreign affairs? You are aware both Trump and Putin are involved in Venezuela and back different sides? Should Congress stay the heck out of it? How about liberal journalists who seem more capable of discussing the issues than AOC?
Conservatives gleefully squeal about Socialism or Communism and more than imply that Social Democrats have some kind of affinity for Communism or failed Socialist governments. Social Democrats in America don't want the government to own the means of production. We are a Capitalist free market system paired with social programs. That's been the system for a long time. Its not going to change.
Socialism is regressive and authoritarian, even when it's Democratic, and it wasn't just Chavez and Maduro. It was a long line of corrupt bueracrats and politicans who used their power and authority to make themselves filthy rich at the expense of the Venezuelan people
Occasio doesn't want to address this because she also supports the Nationalization of US industries including healthcare, energy production and Banks.
Read her New Green Deal.
Baloney, it doesn't matter if 150% of business in VZ is privately owned...business in VZ is required to adhere to a strict confiscatory "Bolivarian/Marxist" set of laws that dictate how much they are allowed to produce, for what price, and what materials may be used, when and where goods and services may be marketed and how.
And people have not been allowed to decide what kind of government they want in VZ for a very long time.
I doubt that they'd embrace The Chicago Boys version of economics but pitching pillar to post between command economy dictatorial fascism and socialist kleptocracy isn't what any rational person would describe as "choice".
And it's not even a question of how "RADICAL" VZ's socialism is or was, it's the degree of outright blatant corruption. NO economic system, socialist or capitalist, has a chance when the elites at the top are basically diverting 85% of all revenue directly into their own accounts at the expense of the people. The military AND the leadership are both complicit in all of this.
There is no expectation of even the most remote notion of justice when such corruption is exposed, and it cannot BE exposed because the press in VZ is ALSO tightly controlled so as to only reflect positively on those in power.
Venezuela is a kleptocracy.
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