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DeLay indictment

Navy Pride said:
Would you say that someone who speaks at democratic fund raising events in Texas is a partisan?:roll:
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I was just surprised to see people making it out to be just a partisan attack. He has prosecuted 15 elected officials: 12 are democrats and 3 are republicans.
 
aps said:
I was just surprised to see people making it out to be just a partisan attack. He has prosecuted 15 elected officials: 12 are democrats and 3 are republicans.
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Yes and the 12 democrats were all Conservatives when democrats ran the state.....
 
Deegan said:
Yikes, the way the left has demonized this guy, you'd think he'd killed his pregnant girlfriend or something?

Oh, my bad, that was Teddy, no.....not Bundy, Kennedy.;)
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Or krazy driver Laura Bush who killed her boyfriend....:mrgreen:
 
shuamort said:
Or krazy driver Laura Bush who killed her boyfriend....:mrgreen:
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Was she drunk, and her boyfriend pregnant?:mrgreen:
 
aps said:
Well, not to be rude (and I do apperciate your taking the time to explain your words to me), but it does not clarify things for me, since subsequently, you state: and it would be more credible if it did not come form a political opponent

How can you say you were not essentially calling Earle partisan?
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i do not take someone questioning my replies as being rude
i am more than happy to elaborate if the point i made was not clear
but from most sources i have seen, the DA is a partisan
just last week he said DeLay was not a subject of the investigation
this week he is in indicted on conspiracy charges with no facts to back it up

and as i am sure you all recall, a decent DA can indict a ham sandwich, if he/she chose to

And i do consider Earle Partisan.
whether what he is doing is for partisan reasons has yet to be determined. as far as a dem going after a dem, have you caught any of the recent Primaries? gets pretty nasty there too(in both parties). And most of it is exaggerations, distortions, and sometimes outright lies
I give the benefit of the doubt to the citizens enpaneled on the Grand Jury, but i have yet to hear anything to say this is a slam dunk case.
rather more likely it is a case to wreak havoc on the Rep/cons in power.
Dems/Libs have lost the Executive Branch, the house, the senate, and now the SCOTUS is being changed by Bush, if ever so slightly.

If Delay is guilty, i hope they convict him
if he did consult with lawyers as to how to walk the fine line, than he should be let go, and retain his position in the Senate
 
Deegan said:
Was she drunk, and her boyfriend pregnant?:mrgreen:
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Well, her boyfriend was a liberal, so he probably got an abortion.


(Just kidding, I have no idea).
 
I don't know what shocks me more about this indictment -

The fact that he was.
Or,
The fact it had to be submitted to five different grand juries before one was handed down.
 
shuamort said:
Well, her boyfriend was a liberal, so he probably got an abortion.


(Just kidding, I have no idea).
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In Midland Tex. somehow I doubt that!;)
I only bring this up because the questions were never asked of this man, and he has sat on the Senate for almost three decades. Now, all these years later, we are so concerned with a man who may have raised funds illegally, and treat him as if he were the anti-Christ. I guess I don't understand how one man can be so obviously shielded, and another thrown to the dogs, all while we contemplate the Bush dynasty, what of the Kennedy one?:confused:

Is it because his brothers were killed, does he get a free pass? Why has Delay been attacked since 1993, and no idictment has ever stuck, it makes one wonder?:confused:
 
DeeJayH said:
i do not take someone questioning my replies as being rude
i am more than happy to elaborate if the point i made was not clear
but from most sources i have seen, the DA is a partisan
just last week he said DeLay was not a subject of the investigation
this week he is in indicted on conspiracy charges with no facts to back it up

and as i am sure you all recall, a decent DA can indict a ham sandwich, if he/she chose to

And i do consider Earle Partisan.
whether what he is doing is for partisan reasons has yet to be determined. as far as a dem going after a dem, have you caught any of the recent Primaries? gets pretty nasty there too(in both parties). And most of it is exaggerations, distortions, and sometimes outright lies
I give the benefit of the doubt to the citizens enpaneled on the Grand Jury, but i have yet to hear anything to say this is a slam dunk case.
rather more likely it is a case to wreak havoc on the Rep/cons in power.
Dems/Libs have lost the Executive Branch, the house, the senate, and now the SCOTUS is being changed by Bush, if ever so slightly.

If Delay is guilty, i hope they convict him
if he did consult with lawyers as to how to walk the fine line, than he should be let go, and retain his position in the Senate
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All right there, DeeJay, I understand what you're saying. I appreciate the very thorough answer.
 
Deegan said:
In Midland Tex. somehow I doubt that!;)
I only bring this up because the questions were never asked of this man, and he has sat on the Senate for almost three decades. Now, all these years later, we are so concerned with a man who may have raised funds illegally, and treat him as if he were the anti-Christ. I guess I don't understand how one man can be so obviously shielded, and another thrown to the dogs, all while we contemplate the Bush dynasty, what of the Kennedy one?:confused:

Is it because his brothers were killed, does he get a free pass? Why has Delay been attacked since 1993, and no idictment has ever stuck, it makes one wonder?:confused:
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What is the conviction rate for mafia members? Its pretty low. If you have money and power, you beat most raps. Tom Delay is the most corrupt man in Washington since LBJ.
 
Deegan said:
In Midland Tex. somehow I doubt that!;)
I only bring this up because the questions were never asked of this man, and he has sat on the Senate for almost three decades. Now, all these years later, we are so concerned with a man who may have raised funds illegally, and treat him as if he were the anti-Christ. I guess I don't understand how one man can be so obviously shielded, and another thrown to the dogs, all while we contemplate the Bush dynasty, what of the Kennedy one?:confused:

Is it because his brothers were killed, does he get a free pass? Why has Delay been attacked since 1993, and no idictment has ever stuck, it makes one wonder?:confused:
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Well, because killing people outside of the realm of the job isn't the direct business of the senate.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
What is the conviction rate for mafia members? Its pretty low. If you have money and power, you beat most raps. Tom Delay is the most corrupt man in Washington since LBJ.
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You may think that, by the many indictments presented, but as I have discovered, I may very well have been fooled.

I don't know, I just question the tactics, and am suspicious that none have ever amounted to a hill of beans. He certainly is the most accused of corruption, that stands in stark contrast to what has been proven.
 
Batman said:
I don't know what shocks me more about this indictment -

The fact that he was.
Or,
The fact it had to be submitted to five different grand juries before one was handed down.
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From what I read on CNN, I don't remember that. However, that would mean that it was brought by five different d.a.'s, all in different counties because I know that this has not been going on for 8-10 years. A grand jury's term is about two years usually and that would mean that it was investigated by 5 counties...if you claim is correct. Actually, it doesn't make sense at all...and I kinda want to know now.

Because this is it-it owuld have to be brought to five different grand juries by five different DAs...so it just doesn't make sense to me.
 
scottyz said:
If ya can't beat'em.... swift boat'em!
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So it's o.k to drop charges, in return for funds to your fav. groups?:doh

My oh my, what has this country come to?:roll:
 
Deegan said:
So it's o.k to drop charges, in return for funds to your fav. groups?:doh

My oh my, what has this country come to?:roll:
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........... because National Review is totally impartial and has no agenda to push. :roll:
 
scottyz said:
........... because National Review is totally impartial and has no agenda to push. :roll:
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And how often have they been proven wrong, especially compared to CBS, Newsweek, NYTimes, Etc?:roll:
 
Deegan said:
And how often have they been proven wrong, especially compared to CBS, Newsweek, NYTimes, Etc?:roll:
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cant speak to that, but National Review is clearly a right wing paper

NYTimes, a once glorious albeit left paper, is now a rag like the Enquirer
pseudo intellectuals bent on the destruction of Bush
 
When Bill Clinton took campaign contributions from Communist China, that money went into one account. When he took $150,000 bribe from ADM and then ordered 10% of the country to convert to ethanol fuel, that money went into another account. When he took millions in contributions from pseudo-intellectual, elitist snobs like George Soros, he put that money somewhere else. And when Planned Parenthood, FAIR, and Amnesty International gave him money, he put it in yet another account.

The reason for all this?... Political money raised certain ways must be spent in particular ways. Managing and rearranging these finances is a core part of the game and has been an accepted practice for over fifty years. And anyone who doesn't utilize their resources intelligently like Tom Delay (and everyone else who raises any political money anywhere in America does) is an ameteur.

Democrats do exactly the same things this professional hitman prosecutor is all in a phony huff about. There is NOTHING unusual, let alone, illegal about what they are charging Delay with having done.

So please spare us the phony "typical Republican corruption" B.S. What this IS is a typical example of how incapable Democrats are of being honest or accurate.

You ignoramouses thoughtlessly jumping on the anti-Delay bandwagon here are really discrediting yourselves.
 
scottyz said:
If ya can't beat'em.... swift boat'em!
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That National Review article really went overboard on attacking Earle; however, what it means is that the republicans are totally up in arms about DeLay getting indicted. :lol:

An example on this board, see the post by Aquapub. Yeah, let's bring up all the bad things Clinton did.
 
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aquapub said:
When Bill Clinton took campaign contributions from Communist China, that money went into one account. When he took $150,000 bribe from ADM and then ordered 10% of the country to convert to ethanol fuel, that money went into another account. When he took millions in contributions from pseudo-intellectual, elitist snobs like George Soros, he put that money somewhere else. And when Planned Parenthood, FAIR, and Amnesty International gave him money, he put it in yet another account.

The reason for all this?... Political money raised certain ways must be spent in particular ways. Managing and rearranging these finances is a core part of the game and has been an accepted practice for over fifty years. And anyone who doesn't utilize their resources intelligently like Tom Delay (and everyone else who raises any political money anywhere in America does) is an ameteur.

Democrats do exactly the same things this professional hitman prosecutor is all in a phony huff about. There is NOTHING unusual, let alone, illegal about what they are charging Delay with having done.

So please spare us the phony "typical Republican corruption" B.S. What this IS is a typical example of how incapable Democrats are of being honest or accurate.

You ignoramouses thoughtlessly jumping on the anti-Delay bandwagon here are really discrediting yourselves.
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Why are you so angry? Are you Tom DeLay? ;)
 
aps said:
That National Review article really went overboard on attacking Earle; however, what it means is that the republicans are totally up in arms about DeLay getting indicted. :lol:

An example on this board, see the post by Aquapub. Yeah, let's bring up all the bad things Clinton did.
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For the tenth time, and without conviction, yes!:roll:
 
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