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DEA and other law enforcement round up 50 illegal aliens in Denver

OlNate said:
Not from this poster, in my experience. Shit is getting worse, and way too fast.
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It's MAGA-mind.

It's a disease, a form of undiagnosed psychosis.
 
NatMorton said:
Why do you believe this is true? Be specific.
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Because Norfolk County said as much. Notice I said "appears". According to Norfolk County they 1) notified ICE of the release date and 2) said ICE reported they would not be able to make the pickup. So by all accounts, ICE apparently is at fault here.

Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise?
 
Integrityrespec said:
I have just one question.
All the folks on here that want all the illegals to stay,how many of them have you volunteered to sponsor and put up in your home?
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Why, are they looking for free room and board?
 
Airyaman said:
Because Norfolk County said as much. Notice I said "appears". According to Norfolk County they 1) notified ICE of the release date and 2) said ICE reported they would not be able to make the pickup. So by all accounts, ICE apparently is at fault here.

Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise?
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Cite, please.
 
Corbell said:
Or, more to the point, a victory for AMERICA and AMERICAN CITIZENS.
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And yet, my life is the same.

Seems more likely that its performative, right-wing, Christian Nationalism on the march.
 
trouble13 said:
Do you lecture people on the left who accuse the people who want the immigration laws enforced as being racists, too?
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I check in with friends when they demonstrate a clear departure from the decency and intelligence that caused me to respect them in the first place.
 
Airyaman said:
Did you miss my prior response directly to you? #31.
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Yes, I did; got it now. A state can hold someone under an immigration detention order for 48 hours, and then they must be released if there's no other reason to hold them.

But you're still missing the point. Norfolk officials -- and all the other state officials who processed this thug's 17 felony charges -- could have, at any time during the what had to be at least a months' long prosecution, contacted ICE and said "Hey, we have one for you." There would then have been ample time for ICE and those officials to arrange a pick up time. But MA officials never did that because discretionary cooperation is against sanctuary policy.

That this man was loose in the community is entirely the fault of MA's sanctuary policies. There is no getting around that reality.
 
NatMorton said:
Yes, I did; got it now. A state can hold someone under an immigration detention order for 48 hours, and then they must be released if there's no other reason to hold them.

But you're still missing the point. Norfolk officials -- and all the other state officials who processed this thug's 17 felony charges -- could have, at any time during the what had to be at least a months' long prosecution, contacted ICE and said "Hey, we have one for you." There would then have been ample time for ICE and those officials to arrange a pick up time. But MA officials never did that because discretionary cooperation is against sanctuary policy.

That this man was loose in the community is entirely the fault of MA's sanctuary policies. There is no getting around that reality.
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They notified ICE of his release date. According to their records, ICE claimed they could not arrange a pickup. Until he is released, he is under local jurisdiction. Jails and prisons do not release inmates until their sentence is served, regardless of immigration status.
 
Airyaman said:
They notified ICE of his release date. According to their records, ICE claimed they could not arrange a pickup. Until he is released, he is under local jurisdiction. Jails and prisons do not release inmates until their sentence is served, regardless of immigration status.
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That statement does not refute my point. That man had to be under active prosecution for months (or longer) with no notification to ICE. There would have been ample time to deport this thug but for MA officials' unwillingness to cooperate with immigration law enforcement.
 
Reminds me of a joke. (What doesn't?)

Q. What do you call a bus loaded with 50 illegal aliens inside, driving off of a 1000 foot cliff?
A. A start.

I kid! I kid! Don't shoot!
 
NatMorton said:
That statement does not refute my point. That man had to be under active prosecution for months (or longer) with no notification to ICE.
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NatMorton said:
There would have been ample time to deport this thug but for MA officials' unwillingness to cooperate with immigration law enforcement.
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Could one say that the MA officials were obstructing ICE?
 
NatMorton said:
That statement does not refute my point. That man had to be under active prosecution for months (or longer) with no notification to ICE. There would have been ample time to deport this thug but for MA officials' unwillingness to cooperate with immigration law enforcement.
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There is no responsibility to report anyone under prosecution to ICE. All criminal perps are charged and serve sentences according to their crimes, regardless of their immigration status.
 
Airyaman said:
There is no responsibility to report anyone under prosecution to ICE
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That is where we fundamentally differ. I assert MA officials have a moral responsibility to protect the citizens of this state, and when they willfully ignore an opportunity to take a thug like this one off the streets in MA (and from everywhere else in the US, for that matter), they are failing to live up to that responsibility.
 
NatMorton said:
I have looked at the evidence posted in this thread. If you'd like to add to it, please do.
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These aren't necessarily the best ones for you but they give basics.
Deportations by ICE jumped to 10-year high in 2024, surpassing Trump-era peak - CBS News https://search.app/zhScFnFxiW8kuX4D6

ICE budget shortage could delay Trump’s mass deportation plans https://search.app/eYcFyTVwfKjKQb176

More he came in 2020:
Massachusetts illegal immigrants arrested by ICE for rape https://search.app/6knYwe9G8jxWKbddA
 
JerryW said:
These aren't necessarily the best ones for you but they give basics.
Deportations by ICE jumped to 10-year high in 2024, surpassing Trump-era peak - CBS News https://search.app/zhScFnFxiW8kuX4D6

ICE budget shortage could delay Trump’s mass deportation plans https://search.app/eYcFyTVwfKjKQb176

More he came in 2020:
Massachusetts illegal immigrants arrested by ICE for rape https://search.app/6knYwe9G8jxWKbddA
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For the sake of discussion, let us stipulate that deportations were at a 10-year high in 2024. So what? That does not alter the fact that thugs like the one I've cited -- and the 100s of others detained this month -- were walking the streets of Boston because of this state's sanctuary policies.
 
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