Let's set the bad guys aside and just focus on the regular ole American citizen who likes to target shoot, hunt, etc. Make a list of which weapons these people (again, not the bad dudes) should not have the right to own and which weapons they should have the right to own.
All small arms including full auto that the police and military have access to should be allowed for civilian ownership.
Okay, I'm Canadian so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I'm also a gun owner, a hunter. But I seriously wonder why you would want a full-auto weapon. It's got to cost thousands, and the ammunition bill for an afternoon at the range would probably buy me beer for the month.
Don't get me wrong- I'm all for Americans owning machine guns. I live far enough from the border that the noise won't bother me and strays won't affect me and if it comes to pass I'll buy stock in ammunition manufacturers. I just wonder why.
I think the better argument in a free society is "why not"
Versus why.
But I'm of the mindset that other peoples reasons don't matter to me as long as they do not affect me.
If they were legal I might own one just because they're cool, but I have no practical reason
Let's set the bad guys aside and just focus on the regular ole American citizen who likes to target shoot, hunt, etc. Make a list of which weapons these people (again, not the bad dudes) should not have the right to own and which weapons they should have the right to own.
We should ban bacon, due to its lethality.
Let's set the bad guys aside and just focus on the regular ole American citizen who likes to target shoot, hunt, etc. Make a list of which weapons these people (again, not the bad dudes) should not have the right to own and which weapons they should have the right to own.
All small arms including full auto that the police and military have access to should be allowed for civilian ownership.
I keep it simple. At a minimum, any weapon that civilian police officers are authorized to use, the general public should be authorized to have.
Okay, I'm Canadian so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I'm also a gun owner, a hunter. But I seriously wonder why you would want a full-auto weapon. It's got to cost thousands, and the ammunition bill for an afternoon at the range would probably buy me beer for the month.
Don't get me wrong- I'm all for Americans owning machine guns. I live far enough from the border that the noise won't bother me and strays won't affect me and if it comes to pass I'll buy stock in ammunition manufacturers. I just wonder why.
I agree, I was being flippant. If I was American I'd say the constitutional 2nd ammendment says that citizens are entitled to own those weapons. I'd also say the 10 Commandments were carved in stone.
As a Canadian, I regret that we have a constitution. Such as it is. My rights used to be protected by British Common Law, which has evolved over centuries as society has changed, and it is still working well where it's allowed to.
The US is a different society, though. If I lived in Seattle or Cincinnati or New Orleans I'd arm myself as I saw fit and who knows, even if I didn't want to buy a full-auto weapon, I might want that window kept open.
More likely is that I'd move myself and my family to a place where I didn't feel the necessity.
Lets see
any firearm: that means a hand held weapon that discharges an inert projectile by means of explosive powder.
any edged weapon-swords, switchblades, sabers
any impact weapon-nunchaku especially
any firearm used by any civilian police department in the USA or similar designed are clearly protected
so is the individual infantry weapon
Not allowed to own
stuff that is banned for civilian law enforcement
Surface to air missiles, grenades, land mines, anti tank rockets, mortars etc
stuff that is not an individual weapon designed for individual use against individual targets
chemical warfare weapons
Nuclear, or biological weapons
We should ban bacon, due to its lethality.
Okay, I'm Canadian so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I'm also a gun owner, a hunter. But I seriously wonder why you would want a full-auto weapon. It's got to cost thousands, and the ammunition bill for an afternoon at the range would probably buy me beer for the month.
Don't get me wrong- I'm all for Americans owning machine guns. I live far enough from the border that the noise won't bother me and strays won't affect me and if it comes to pass I'll buy stock in ammunition manufacturers. I just wonder why.
I believe that the right to keep and bear arms is a universal human right, not limited to American citizens except by tyrannical governments.
No, it isn't. I have no opinion on what Americans choose to do. It's there in your constitution and if you decide to change that constitution that's up to you. Suggesting to other nations that their democracy and human rights are dependent on permitting the widespread ownership of deadly weapons is not helpful. Plenty of nations have functioning democratic decision-making mechanisms, some considerably less prone to abuse than your own. You need to focus on what works for your democracy and leave others to make their own decisions, even if they aren't ones with which you agree.
I'm not trying to tell you how to run your country. I just think your gun laws are morally equivalent to China's speech laws.
My list of weapons people should not be allowed to own.
1) Nukes
2) Chemical weapons
3) Biological weapons
My list of firearms that should be prohibited:
1)
There is room for licensure and restrictions on explosive ordnance or other destructive devices that create a blast radius, or otherwise uncontrollable kill zone like noxious chemicals.
I'd say the same about your collective casual indifference to your gun death stats. Ever heard of the Social Contract? Your approach seems much more Hobbesian.
I'd say the same about your collective casual indifference to your gun death stats. Ever heard of the Social Contract? Your approach seems much more Hobbesian.
I do see merit in licensure of area effective weapons, "fire and forget" can have unintended or catastrophic consequences in the wrong hands. Even the best ordnance training can still be effected by windage or miscalculation so I can see having requirements such as safe storage, handling, and designating an area of operation far away from people.I don't know that we should allow government to restrict weapons ownership but for WMD possibly.
Yes, I have heard about the social contract. Part of that social contract is that the government will uphold our human rights,
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