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Could some democrat please take Pelosi aside

You are even showing your tooth! Wow, such anger! LMAO!

Let's just say you have lost whatever argument you hoped to win. What argument was that anyway? You appear to be to dense to have any actual upbringing, any historical teaching. What is it that you want?
 
Well you guys cuss at me constantly, do you keep getting these warnings?

I was asking about your interpretation of the effects of the government shutdown, what are YOU talking about??
What warnings??? Are you getting warnings from Nancy Pelosi?
 
There are 800,000 superfluous federal employees who need to find a real job. Nothing more. Thanks to Trump those jobs are out there now by the millions. It is truly a great day thanks to Trump. God bless Trump.

That's about what I figured you'd say.
How old are you, asking for a friend.
 
I was asking about your interpretation of the effects of the government shutdown, what are YOU talking about??
What warnings??? Are you getting warnings from Nancy Pelosi?

No, I keep getting warnings from the mods.
 
A 3 year temp reprieve on DACA (which was due to trumps actions) is not so much of what they wanted.

Well some of the Democrats seem to be interested in debating Trump's offer. And tomorrow McConnell will bring it to the floor to vote to do just that.
 
Could some half way intelligent democrat please take Pelois aside and explain one fact to her. They need to explain to her how a compromise works. They also need to tell her no matter how pig headed she is she is not going to get everything her way.

How about we start with the man who says "compromise is a weakness" and who is "proud to shut down the government"

You're calling the kettle black while covered in charcoal.

I have to say this, it's clear to me know that the American right is a bunch of cry babies who pout and stomp their little feet when they don't get their way...name calling and temper tantrums.

It' not Pelosi who went back on a deal that would have prevented this, it was Stupid all by himself. So can the childish name calling and face the fact you're beat and blame the almost man who caused it...Donald J. Trump. He's the guy who reversed himself, again, and left this mess and bragged about it. Next to him Pelosi looks like a genius.
 
That intelligent democrat needs to explain how the process works to you too in politics. Just like Pelosi you are totally dismissing the safety of the American people.

The safety of the American people would not to allow someone like Trump to become president in the first place.

40% of the nation don't have a clue on what safety of the American people means, and that includes you.
 
No, I keep getting warnings from the mods.

WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ASKING ME?

Do you see the word MODERATOR in my avatar anywhere? Is this the "Where's My Binky" forum?
Are you contacting me thinking I am a moderator?

Are you sure that you know how to use DebatePolitics? (dot com)

Wow...just wow.
If you're getting warnings from Mods, maybe it means you're screwing up.
Keep it up. This should be fun to watch!
 
Trump and the Republicans have run into a brick wall with the Democrats. Ever since Nov 2016 their only policy is to resist everything.


That was the repub playbook under Obama. Repubs blocked most of the dem agenda,
but, you didn't whine about repubs doing this back then.
 
53. how old are you?

I am sixty two years old and not only did I work my entire life, my wife served this country proudly and she is dependent upon government services thanks to her service connected disabilities, and my father did more in service as a government employee than you could begin to imagine, like inventing nuclear hardening for military and mission critical civilian electronic infrastructure.

What you don't understand about government is a lot and it is above my pay grade to explain it to you.
And I am not the least bit interested in any nonsense you have to spew about it in return either.
 
There are 800,000 superfluous federal employees who need to find a real job. Nothing more. Thanks to Trump those jobs are out there now by the millions. It is truly a great day thanks to Trump. God bless Trump.



Really?

800,000 "superfluous" federal employees?

No exaggerating from the American right, nope not at all.

So tell me, if they're all so ****ing superfluous how come Trump is ordering them back to work without pay?

If you don't need them why force slavery conditions on them?

By the way, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police have doubled border security; it seems that with all the "superfluous" customs agents not at work, snake heads and smugglers are gearing up for an invasion. Watch the street price of heroin and opiates drop like a ****ing stone!
 
That was the repub playbook under Obama. Repubs blocked most of the dem agenda,
but, you didn't whine about repubs doing this back then.

This is not going to be the Democratic playbook, EXCEPT where shutting down the government is concerned.
I guarantee you this will not be the Democratic playbook for one simple reason, it will get them booted out, again EXCEPT where the shutdown is concerned. It is ALL ABOUT the shutdown and the shutdown ONLY.
 
Democrats do want open borders. They are for fighting against a wall, encouraging Caravans, getting rid of ICE, have sanctuary cities, a sanctuary state, allow illegals to get driver's licenses, allow them to vote in local elections, and give illegals free healthcare up to and including both California and New York City now wanting to do single payer healthcare and specifically allowing it to cover illegals. Now please explain to me how Democrats are not for open borders. Everything they stand for encourages illegal immigration.


Open borders means no immigration policy at all, just open the floodgates.

No one of the left is for that, so quit repeating this lie. Yes, we are more compassionate to immigrants. Repubs hate brown people, its' as obvious as hell. the purpose of sanctuary is to disallow police officers from reporting undocs to immigration authorities if they call the cops for being robbed, attacked etc. It's a point of compassion, given that if we remove the sanctuary, criminals can rob, attack illegals with impunity. It's cruel to take away sanctuary status. That doesn't mean they are protected from being deported by immigration officials. However, that is what repubs thinks it means. It doesn't.

Almost half of illegals are visa overstays, and most of those are from Canada, but we dont see repubs whining about them, perhaps because they are not brown.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/08/07/dhs-foreigners-overstayed-visas-2017/924316002/
 
So tell me, if they're all so ****ing superfluous how come Trump is ordering them back to work without pay?

Not to mention the three or four million employees whose jobs depend on something to do WITH the government, like contracts.
 
I am sixty two years old and not only did I work my entire life, my wife served this country proudly and she is dependent upon government services thanks to her service connected disabilities, and my father did more in service as a government employee than you could begin to imagine, like inventing nuclear hardening for military and mission critical civilian electronic infrastructure.

My father-in-law doesn't care about politics, but he is literally disabled due to his service in the army. You think people who don't pay attention to politics are thinking "why isn't Pelosi compromising?" when the one thing everybody knows is Trump says he's the world's best negotiator and always gets what he wants. In other words, you've got another new voter for anybody but Trump.
 
We are currently about to be in a position where we will be in need of home health care aide services due to the fact that my disabled Navy veteran wife is sick again, AND my son is also at UCLA Hospital with a pretty severe case of congestive heart failure.
Being that it's a two hour drive to UCLA sometimes, and being that my wife's mobility may not be possible sometimes while our son is so ill, we will need that kind of services, which are contracted out by the government to private companies.

But I guess we shouldn't mind if my son becomes critical and we can't make it to the hospital. He can just die alone, no problem.

Think I am joking? I'm not, I assure you. I thought about keeping this to myself but screw it, people need to see the stupidity of shutting down the government firsthand.

Daryl UCLA Hosp1.webp

We might not be able to get the kind of help we need, which the VA is happy to cover, if there isn't any way to pay the needed contract personnel.
 
The left always believe they have thought things through. And yet when all of their policies fail their "thought" process is that they just didn't do enough of what didn't work and double down on zero, thinking that it will work the next time as long as they do more of it. That is thinking things through. Allowing for sanctuary cities, a sanctuary state, giving illegals driver's licenses, education, allowing them to vote in local elections, and giving them free healthcare is the solution to the immigration problem? That's thinking things through?


You mean like invading Iraq, and the years of chaos and deaths that that has caused, that kind of "thinking things through"?
 
Obviously the definition of 'negotiate' eludes you.

Negotiate - to deal or bargain with another or others, as in the preparation of a treaty or contract or in preliminaries to a business deal.

to have formal discussions with someone in order to reach an agreement with them.

Pelosi doesn't come close.



If you negotiate with an extortionist, he's got an incentive to do it again.

That point seems lost on you.
 
My father-in-law doesn't care about politics, but he is literally disabled due to his service in the army. You think people who don't pay attention to politics are thinking "why isn't Pelosi compromising?" when the one thing everybody knows is Trump says he's the world's best negotiator and always gets what he wants. In other words, you've got another new voter for anybody but Trump.

Wifey, same thing. 100% service connected Navy.

KarenVAfirstDay.webp

The VA itself is funded but anything that the VA needs that involves outside contractors is not at this time.
 
They want to take away your guns too, and your money. And they want to teach your kids to be gay and your grandkids to change genders.


Hey, that was my joke. You stole it :)
 
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