China today passed a law authorising the Chinese army to attack Taiwan if the self-governing island tries to move towards independence.
NI_MPU('middle');Only two delegates abstained in the otherwise unanimous vote by the National People’s Congress to approve the use of "non-peaceful means and other necessary measures to protect China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity".
The legislation does not specify what is meant by "non-peaceful means", but analysts believe it would cover anything from blockade to surgical missile strikes and all-out invasion.
The law takes effect immediately.
Fried Rice said:It was so nice to see the march in Taipei yesterday supporting China stance on this issue. So many march and prove that China is truly one race. The law passed recently in Beijing was meant as act of last resort should reactionaries - at some furture point - try to seize control and declare independant state. The people in Taiwan yesterday maech to say that they would never declare independance in this way and such law not required. Like Hong Kong and Macau, Taiwan embodies "One Country, Two Systems". Talk in Taiwan if independance is mere face-saving games we chinese like to play. Taiwan is completely part of China - economically, culturally and politically. At one time Taiwan economy was even stronger than China but even at that time there was no mass movement to Independance. You focus on the independance issue and never report on the many other ways we are linked together.
USA will never intervene in Taiwan issue. Firstly, there will be no conflict as both Mainland and Taipei seek peaceful solution (as new law will guarrentee). Second, USA and the UN recognise there is only 1 China. The UN etc cannot get involved as Tawian has no legal recognition.
Even though China could walk into Taiwan today and world would take no action, we dont as we are peaceful people. Unlike USA which has illegally invaded so many countries and killed so many people.
RightatNYU said:Did you know that China, in addition to employing tens of thousands of people to censor all internet traffic in their country, also employs tens of thousands of people whose job it is to spread propaganda on the internet to make China look better than it is, and to ease fears about China's growing power?
Pacridge said:We're doing that here as well.
RightatNYU said:This post was so full of **** that I almost cried.
"Prove that China is truly one race" - What kind of propaganda is this?
"Talk in Taiwan if independance is mere face-saving games we chinese like to play." - Right, that's why the US signed a mutual defence pact, because we like to play "face saving games."
"Firstly, there will be no conflict as both Mainland and Taipei seek peaceful solution (as new law will guarrentee)." - How exactly does a law that says "If you do this wrong, we will attack you" guarantee peace?
"Even though China could walk into Taiwan today and world would take no action, we dont as we are peaceful people. Unlike USA which has illegally invaded so many countries and killed so many people." - Hmm, a peaceful people? Interesting theory.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#20worst
This is a list of the 20 worst atrocities in history. #'s 2, 4, 5, and 6 all happened in China. Total dead? 121 million, in those 4 disasters alone. Peaceful though.
Also, I wanted to congratulate you on your great job with human rights. That one child policy is a great idea. Too bad you guys didn't plan it out very well. With many families killing off girls so they can have sons, your country will have a drastic shortage of females within the next twenty years. This will result in many of your men being forced to marry foreigners, which will have a profound impact on the most racist and xenophobic country in the world.
Did you know that China, in addition to employing tens of thousands of people to censor all internet traffic in their country, also employs tens of thousands of people whose job it is to spread propaganda on the internet to make China look better than it is, and to ease fears about China's growing power?
I wonder who could be doing that?
Pacridge said:We're doing that here as well. Though here we just pay reporter to change their positions about programs and create "fake" news features and send them out to stations- who air them without letting anyone know they're fake.
Arch Enemy said:NYU.. no need to be so rude when making your point... You actually sound a bit racist and over the top in your post.
Obviously you didn't recieve the Memo.. of course there is organized Propaganda for America. Military Ads, Commericals, etc etc.
Some of those atrocities are huge in death tolls becasue China has a large population.. and always have had one.
In this new bill China is also establishing trade and taking off embargos on Taiwan which have been held for a while.
I see it as this... Taiwan is pretty much Chinese property.. if American President wants to risk costing our entire military and helping Taiwan in the case of an attack then obviously we deserved it. Just like Vietnam, Gulf Wars, and World War I.. I wouldn't be willing to fight this one out.. it would have no point...even if we repel a Chinese attack the mainland of Taiwan would be demolished.. it'd cause World War III ( Korea would team with China) and it'd be an epic brawl.
I am however not predicting such an attack from China. China has too much to worry about.. most of their people shop at Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart gives China a tremendous amount of Tax money.. so why ruin such a big income?
Fried Rice said:Dear NYU - i think you must be very young person as your arguement is very naive. You should question why you must automatically think i am agent of China (i am as much an agent of China as you are of USA) just because i make positive comments.
Funny you mention 20 worst atrocities in history - how about the current atrocity in Iraq - oh no China in that one. How protected are your Human Rights today ?
One Child Policy - what nonsense you talk - i wont dignify your insult with comments.
I agree that some Internet sites are monitored. I like your vision of "tens of thousands of people to spread propoganda" - i think you confuse us with your own HomeLand Security. It is your own country that is involved in propoganda war. If we are racist etc as you say why we care what people think !
Fried Rice feels sad for this guy
Arch Enemy said:NYU you really should think about your posts before you post them. I know cold-hearted Yankees like to argue (due to most of their Italian heritage.. if you are Italian) but don't be rude and vulgar.. that is not needed.
"The reason it's not in the 20 worst atrocities is pretty simple: numbers. We didn't kill 120 million people, unlike you." Unlike you wasn't needed in your post.. you don't need to accuse someone like that. When you say "Unlike You" you also give of the ideas that you are directly accusing Fried Rice of this... but I doubt he was alive during those terrible times.
Seriously dude think about what you are posting before you do.
RightatNYU said:I would be suspicious of that because you spout the party line like it's your job...literally.
The reason it's not in the 20 worst atrocities is pretty simple: numbers. We didn't kill 120 million people, unlike you.
What exactly was I incorrect about? Any clarification?
Funny, by my homeland security doesn't keep me from looking whatever I want up on the internet, or listening to bbc, or even al-jazeera. How can you defend the complete censorship of an entire nation? How do you justify state run papers?
I feel disgusted by you.
Fried Rice said:Dear NYU
Sad to say - it is exactly this type of attitude that makes Americans so easy to hate. Come back when you can discuss in a rational manner.
Fried Rice says Good-Bye to this guy.
RightatNYU said:What, no rebuttal? Disappointment.
You sure you don't want to try to defend your country's agression, its horrible human rights actions, the One Child policy, its government sponsored copyright infringement, or your supression of information and free speech?
What a surprise.
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