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Capitol Police Are Spying On Members Of Congress And The Americans They Meet

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do we have a section for Police State matters? <---comment
thefederalist.com

Report: Capitol Police Are Spying On Lawmakers And People They Meet

Police surveillance is another way of keeping voters and the accountability they might bring at a healthy distance.
thefederalist.com thefederalist.com

Besty Woodruff Swan and Daniel Lippman broke the details this week of a new Capitol Police initiative that involves deep dives into the speech, background, and lifestyle details of who members of Congress are meeting with, including donors, Hill staff, mayors, state legislators, and other Americans exercising their First Amendment right to petition their government.

Personal details on Capitol Hill staff, state legislators, or donors are dispersed to partisans and suddenly leaked at an opportune political moment by some agency conveniently immune to the Freedom of Information Act and subject to limited oversight. After the aggressive leaking, spinning, and shaming that bureaucrats engaged in during the Donald Trump years, we’ve seen what’s possible.

This practice also comes dangerously close to burdening the free exercise of political speech, which includes the right to petition the government “for a redress of grievances” without fear of reprisal.
 
anatta said:
do we have a section for Police State matters? <---comment
thefederalist.com

Report: Capitol Police Are Spying On Lawmakers And People They Meet

Police surveillance is another way of keeping voters and the accountability they might bring at a healthy distance.
thefederalist.com thefederalist.com

Besty Woodruff Swan and Daniel Lippman broke the details this week of a new Capitol Police initiative that involves deep dives into the speech, background, and lifestyle details of who members of Congress are meeting with, including donors, Hill staff, mayors, state legislators, and other Americans exercising their First Amendment right to petition their government.

Personal details on Capitol Hill staff, state legislators, or donors are dispersed to partisans and suddenly leaked at an opportune political moment by some agency conveniently immune to the Freedom of Information Act and subject to limited oversight. After the aggressive leaking, spinning, and shaming that bureaucrats engaged in during the Donald Trump years, we’ve seen what’s possible.

This practice also comes dangerously close to burdening the free exercise of political speech, which includes the right to petition the government “for a redress of grievances” without fear of reprisal.
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Wonderful, the gop should like this since they are such fans of the police and law and order.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Paranoia runs deep.
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Yeah, don't those losers know everyone ends up trying to murder congress and destroy American democracy after a good kegger? Sheesh. Buzkills.

anatta said:
Im a fan of "petition the Government for a redress of grievances" without the cops doing deep background checks
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So now it wasn't even a kegger? The new story is now that a document was filed on january 6th, that's all?
 
This is bad and I don't support it at all, but that's because I actually care about privacy. Maybe the GOP shouldn't have overwhelmingly voted in favor of The Patriot Act if they didn't want this shit used on them.

Regular Americans RIGHT NOW have their data scooped up in mass surveillance. If your data travels outside of the country, the they don't even need a warrant to view all of it.

Every message you've ever sent on any "private" messenger or email to someone outside the US can be viewed by the state without any reasonable suspicion. Every call you make, photo you take, purchase you make, walk you go on, friends you meet with...can all easily be accessed by the government.

So why are you selectively outraged about this when millions of Americans have their constitutional rights infringed on every day?
 
Mr Person said:
Yeah, don't those losers know everyone ends up trying to murder congress and destroy American democracy after a good kegger? Sheesh. Buzkills.



So now it wasn't even a kegger? The new story is now that a document was filed on january 6th, that's all?
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700 assholes out of 71,000,000 voters.

No decent American voter approved of what happened on Jan 6 and you ****ing know it.
 
RetiredUSN said:
No decent American voter approved of what happened on Jan 6 and you ****ing know it.
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I agree...

...unfortunately there are a lot of indecent American voters it seems.
Twenty-eight percent called it defending freedom and 26% patriotism.
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www.forbes.com

New Polls on January 6

On the anniversary of the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol, a slew of pollsters have produced new polls. Nearly all of the findings are consistent with polls we have seen throughout the year.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
Nomad4Ever said:
This is bad and I don't support it at all, but that's because I actually care about privacy. Maybe the GOP shouldn't have overwhelmingly voted in favor of The Patriot Act if they didn't want this shit used on them.

Regular Americans RIGHT NOW have their data scooped up in mass surveillance. If your data travels outside of the country, the they don't even need a warrant to view all of it.

Every message you've ever sent on any "private" messenger or email to someone outside the US can be viewed by the state without any reasonable suspicion. Every call you make, photo you take, purchase you make, walk you go on, friends you meet with...can all easily be accessed by the government.

So why are you selectively outraged about this when millions of Americans have their constitutional rights infringed on every day?
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Yeah, republicans don't care about privacy. Not just the Patriot Act (yes, Dems voted on it as well becuase the republicans would call them terrorists and morons would eat it up if they didn't) but dem voters don't like it.

And don't even get into the bullshit of corporations making billions off of spying on everybody, and worse, selling their data to everybody. And republicans are all about profit at any costs, so they would never block the ability of these companies to sell data. I wish we had a government like in Europe, not bought and paid for by the wealthy, and actually govern for the people, not the corporations

Anyway, perfectly fine with spying on others, you know, criminals, but when its them who are the criminals being spied on, god no, that's a violation. Republican hypocrisy to a tee
 
anatta said:
do we have a section for Police State matters? <---comment
thefederalist.com

Report: Capitol Police Are Spying On Lawmakers And People They Meet

Police surveillance is another way of keeping voters and the accountability they might bring at a healthy distance.
thefederalist.com thefederalist.com

Besty Woodruff Swan and Daniel Lippman broke the details this week of a new Capitol Police initiative that involves deep dives into the speech, background, and lifestyle details of who members of Congress are meeting with, including donors, Hill staff, mayors, state legislators, and other Americans exercising their First Amendment right to petition their government.

Personal details on Capitol Hill staff, state legislators, or donors are dispersed to partisans and suddenly leaked at an opportune political moment by some agency conveniently immune to the Freedom of Information Act and subject to limited oversight. After the aggressive leaking, spinning, and shaming that bureaucrats engaged in during the Donald Trump years, we’ve seen what’s possible.

This practice also comes dangerously close to burdening the free exercise of political speech, which includes the right to petition the government “for a redress of grievances” without fear of reprisal.
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I don't think the Capitol Police would take this action on their own without being directed to do so by someone with the authority to issue orders to them.
Isn't the next logical question who directed them to do so?
 
Lloyd Christmas said:
I wish we had a government like in Europe, not bought and paid for by the wealthy, and actually govern for the people, not the corporations
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You want the real black pill? European governments aren't much better than the US. Europe isn't an example of "fixing the system". They still suffer from most of the same issues the US does, they have just done a better job of minimizing some of them.
Corporate lobbies are actively influencing decision-making, via national ministers and officials, to ensure that EU laws and policies suit them. These corporate lobbies include famous national brands such as Volkswagen and Telefónica; iconic sectors like the finance industry in the City of London or the Polish coal industry; and high-spending EU trade associations such as BusinessEurope and CEFIC (the European Chemicals Industry Council). And whether it is on climate change, finance, chemicals, data privacy, or many other issues, when corporate interests win, the public interest loses out.
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Captured states | Corporate Europe Observatory

Member states play a hugely important role in EU decision-making, but too often they act as middlemen for corporate interests. This report combines case studies, original research, and analysis to illustrate the depth of the problem – and what you can do about it.
corporateeurope.org corporateeurope.org

The problem isn't the wrong policies. The problem is capitalism.
 
Deuce said:
90% of Republicans continuously attempt to downplay and excuse those events and you ****ing know it.
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No, continuously poke a pin into the overinflated political balloon that some are trying to make of it.

It wasn't an insurrection. It wasn't a coup. It wasn't a terminal threat, or even a minor one, to the US democracy.

The US governance design is so wisely constructed so as even a once considered presidential order to seize voting machines for audit wasn't possible to be executed, being so far outside of the executive branch's actual powers and responsibilities.

Yeah, an over hyped, over inflated political balloon, driven to be such by the hyper-partisan left for political motivations and perceived political advantage.

How about stopping all this over-inflation?
 
eohrnberger said:
No, continuously poke a pin into the overinflated political balloon that some are trying to make of it.
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A group of violent extremists overran our capitol during the certification of a presidential election because they wanted to alter the outcome of that certification.

You can't spin this. Nobody buys it except the people who were already in the cult.
 
anatta said:
Im a fan of "petition the Government for a redress of grievances" without the cops doing deep background checks
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We are turning into one big police state in my opinion. We have no privacy, we're on camera everywhere we go, our phones and computers go straight to the nsa and we're on the verge of burning books by the book police. What's not to like?
 
This entire era brought to you by decades and decades of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh culminating in a crook from Manhattan who hung his vice president out to dry.
 
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