Brokeback Mountain

[JOHNYJ]

Well, welcome to the world of film reviews. Every film that is critically acclaimed is treated this way. Nothing special is going on. No grand conspiracy to make it out as being better than it is. It's a very good film that would not being making nearly as big a splash as it is if it weren't for the folks who are so outraged over its content.

Please, the movie is not in general release yet.It is being spoon fed to theatres in areas it is expected to attract an audience in. Yet it is being nominated for everything but the Nobel prize. It is only human nature to support something one has a personal affinity for.Or for what supports ones personal opinons.
No, " The Passion of the Christ " was made a bigger hit because of the bruhaha its enemies created about it. I dont think the opponents of this film are making that much of a ta do about it.

 

[mixedmedia]

Please, the movie is not in general release yet.It is being spoon fed to theatres in areas it is expected to attract an audience in. Yet it is being nominated for everything but the Nobel prize. It is only human nature to support something one has a personal affinity for.Or for what supports ones personal opinons.
No, " The Passion of the Christ " was made a bigger hit because of the bruhaha its enemies created about it. I dont think the opponents of this film are making that much of a ta do about it.

It is a small film. It will probably not get a wide release at all. But if it does you can be sure it is due to the "controversy." There are a lot of Jews in Hollywood, too. Do you suppose the only reason Schindler's List won so many awards is because the Jews wanted it to? Put your knee down for a second and consider that maybe it is a fine movie and deserves some awards.

 

[RightinNYC]

Sorry I can't review something I haven't seen and probably won't. I never said it was a bad film.I just don't believe that its as awsome as its being described.

....based on....what evidence?

 

[Blind man]

It is a small film. It will probably not get a wide release at all. But if it does you can be sure it is due to the "controversy." There are a lot of Jews in Hollywood, too. Do you suppose the only reason Schindler's List won so many awards is because the Jews wanted it to? Put your knee down for a second and consider that maybe it is a fine movie and deserves some awards.

I don't know howbig the release will end up being, , but I'm in Oklahoma and until today not a single Theater was showing it in the entire State. They started playing it today. I guess they were waiting to see if it was worth it. I'm guessing it was because the theater was packed. It's good movie, and I'm not a Drama fan. I''ve seen a lot of movies that weren't near as good win awards so there's more to it than just hype. When people were leaving the theater you could tell that they had been touched significantly.

edit * And I didn't find it to be pornagraphic either, maybe a little uncomfortable at times, but definitely not a gay Basic Instinct.

 

[Stace]

I don't know howbig the release will end up being, , but I'm in Oklahoma and until today not a single Theater was showing it in the entire State. They started playing it today. I guess they were waiting to see if it was worth it. I'm guessing it was because the theater was packed. It's good movie, and I'm not a Drama fan. I''ve seen a lot of movies that weren't near as good win awards so there's more to it than just hype. When people were leaving the theater you could tell that they had been touched significantly.

edit * And I didn't find it to be pornagraphic either, maybe a little uncomfortable at times, but definitely not a gay Basic Instinct.

With a lot of movies these days, they'll release it in really large cities first, and gradually spread it out to the smaller cities. :mrgreen:

 

[JOHNYJ]

It is a small film. It will probably not get a wide release at all. But if it does you can be sure it is due to the "controversy." There are a lot of Jews in Hollywood, too. Do you suppose the only reason Schindler's List won so many awards is because the Jews wanted it to? Put your knee down for a second and consider that maybe it is a fine movie and deserves some awards.

Please, the idea of making a film is to make money.You make money getting the widest distribution of your film possible.Maybe it is a fine movie, no one is saying it isnt.

 

[mixedmedia]

Please, the idea of making a film is to make money.You make money getting the widest distribution of your film possible.Maybe it is a fine movie, no one is saying it isnt.

You obviously know very little about filmmaking. To some people it is an art and their primary purpose is not making money. Not everyone making films is a Jerry Bruckheimer, ya know? Many films are made and never released widely. Many of these films never make a substantial amount of money, but the people who make them keep making films because it is what they love to do. The video rental market has also helped to keep arthouse filmmaking afloat. When one of these films does "make it big" it is usually due to some sort of controversy attached to it.

I don't quite get your point on this thread, at first you seemed disappointed because you had not seen a bad review of the film. Now "maybe it is a fine movie." What exactly is your point?

 

[Pacridge]

Sorry I can't review something I haven't seen and probably won't. I never said it was a bad film.I just don't believe that its as awsome as its being described.

It's not as awesome as it's being described. I know this because I'm not going to see it. Nice logic.

Let me see if I can try that. The good book? The greatest book ever written? I highly doubt that, but I have no intentions of reading it. What I will do is question everybody else's opinion of a book I didn't read.

 

[Inuyasha]

It's not as awesome as it's being described. I know this because I'm not going to see it. Nice logic.

Let me see if I can try that. The good book? The greatest book ever written? I highly doubt that, but I have no intentions of reading it. What I will do is question everybody else's opinion of a book I didn't read.

Pac, you surptise me. You mean you have never read or plan to read "Vigina Dialogues"?

 

[Pacridge]

Pac, you surptise me. You mean you have never read or plan to read "Vigina Dialogues"?

No I keep a copy of that in my night stand.

I was referring to, as I'm sure you already knew, "The Sun Also Rises."

 

[Inuyasha]

No I keep a copy of that in my night stand.

I was referring to, as I'm sure you already knew, "The Sun Also Rises."

Of course. how obtuse of me. Perhaps you could lend your copy of "Vigina" to JohnyJ. He might enjoy letting his hair down for a moment.:lol:

 

[Thorgasm]

Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002
Abnormal is a derogatory term in the tone you use it in Missouri Mule. Tell me, if the majority of a population wore jewelry with torture devices and had ceremonies with symbolic cannibalism, would you call that abnormal?


I'd certainly call it weird. If you want to trivialize this discussion go right ahead. I'm not interested in discussing silly comparisons.

You just called christianity weird. I hardly call this "silly comparison" trivializing this discussion. It all has to do with perception. What is "normal" has to do with perception.

 

[jallman]

Okay, so I ended up going to see the movie this weekend (one of those had to do it because the other half wanted to do it things...and Deegan, just shut up now). It was a really good movie. I was actually touched by it and I rarely even laugh out loud or have much emotional reaction to any movie...but I had a tear in my left eye (swore it was a piece of sawdust).

And to reiterate an earlier post...it wasnt pornographic at all. It was very moving.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I have no doubt that it is a well made movie with good direction, great visuals, and a believable plot.

In a discussion among friends in real life, however, questions came up that I posed earlier in this thread, but we were distracted and didn't explore an answer nor has it been discussed here.

You have two dudes who are obviously gay and who fall in love but who attempt to deny their homosexuality. So they each marry gals, but subsequently have trysts with each other after their marriages.

Are they cheating on their wives?

Would a gay guy feel more betrayed if his same sex lover cheated on him with another man or cheated on him with a woman?

Would a straight gal (or guy) feel more betrayed if her/his spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex or the opposite sex?

Do movies like this glamorize infidelity? Or is a moral issue even apparent within the plot? And does anybody care?

 

[Columbusite]

It's a great movie. ***1/2 out of ****

 

[Thorgasm]

I have no doubt that it is a well made movie with good direction, great visuals, and a believable plot.

In a discussion among friends in real life, however, questions came up that I posed earlier in this thread, but we were distracted and didn't explore an answer nor has it been discussed here.

You have two dudes who are obviously gay and who fall in love but who attempt to deny their homosexuality. So they each marry gals, but subsequently have trysts with each other after their marriages.

Are they cheating on their wives?

Yes, what else would you call it?

Would a gay guy feel more betrayed if his same sex lover cheated on him with another man or cheated on him with a woman?

What is the difference?

Would a straight gal (or guy) feel more betrayed if her/his spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex or the opposite sex?

Cheating is cheating

Do movies like this glamorize infidelity? Or is a moral issue even apparent within the plot? And does anybody care?

Does infedelity need glamorization? It has been around since before movies and plays.

 

[Inuyasha]

Are they cheating on their wives?
Yes.
Would a gay guy feel more betrayed if his same sex lover cheated on him with another man or cheated on him with a woman?
With a woman.


Would a straight gal (or guy) feel more betrayed if her/his spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex or the opposite sex?
Same sex

Do movies like this glamorize infidelity? Or is a moral issue even apparent within the plot? And does anybody care?
In a fundamentalust sense they do but then who really cares.

 

[Caine]

Do movies like this glamorize infidelity? Or is a moral issue even apparent within the plot? And does anybody care?

Umm.... This isn't the first movie to show infidelity. There are several movies in which the entire theme of the movie is infidelity, and those are the ones you should be worried about.

Does anyone care? Maybe, but those same people who care should have been spitting mad about the other infidelity movies out there, the ones that focused on infidelity more than just this one.

 

[Naughty Nurse]

Are they cheating on their wives?
Yes.
Would a gay guy feel more betrayed if his same sex lover cheated on him with another man or cheated on him with a woman?
With a woman.


Would a straight gal (or guy) feel more betrayed if her/his spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex or the opposite sex?
Same sex

Have to agree there. We feel more threatened by that which we cannot compete with. If my partner had an affair with another guy, I could deal with that. If he had an affair with a woman, I would feel much more worried!

Haven't seen the movie, yet.

 

[aps]

Have to agree there. We feel more threatened by that which we cannot compete with. If my partner had an affair with another guy, I could deal with that. If he had an affair with a woman, I would feel much more worried!

Haven't seen the movie, yet.

Please tell us what you think of it once you see it. I would love to hear a gay man's opinion of it!

 

[AlbqOwl]

Umm.... This isn't the first movie to show infidelity. There are several movies in which the entire theme of the movie is infidelity, and those are the ones you should be worried about.

Does anyone care? Maybe, but those same people who care should have been spitting mad about the other infidelity movies out there, the ones that focused on infidelity more than just this one.

Nobody said anything about being mad about the movie or the content of the movie. It was a philosophical question.

And it related to this movie's plot because it is this movie that we have been discussing and not other movies.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Have to agree there. We feel more threatened by that which we cannot compete with. If my partner had an affair with another guy, I could deal with that. If he had an affair with a woman, I would feel much more worried!

Haven't seen the movie, yet.

Hmm, that is interesting. I've been thinking about it. I wouldn't tolerate infidelity well in any case, but as a heterosexual female, if my partner had an affair with another woman, then I think I might waver between anger at the betrayal and insecurity that I wasn't woman enough to keep my man or at least the 'other woman' had something that I lacked. But if he had an affair with another guy, I think I would think he was just gay and that wouldn't be my fault or anything I could do anything about. :smile:

I haven't seen the movie but have read the reviews and all this does seem to be a component of the plot.

 

[JOHNYJ]

I have no doubt that it is a well made movie with good direction, great visuals, and a believable plot.

In a discussion among friends in real life, however, questions came up that I posed earlier in this thread, but we were distracted and didn't explore an answer nor has it been discussed here.

You have two dudes who are obviously gay and who fall in love but who attempt to deny their homosexuality. So they each marry gals, but subsequently have trysts with each other after their marriages.

Are they cheating on their wives?

Would a gay guy feel more betrayed if his same sex lover cheated on him with another man or cheated on him with a woman?

Would a straight gal (or guy) feel more betrayed if her/his spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex or the opposite sex?

Do movies like this glamorize infidelity? Or is a moral issue even apparent within the plot? And does anybody care?

Because of the emotional involvement its cheating.The problem is Men and women are wired diferently. A maried guy who goes with a Gay guy for sexual relief only, doesn't consider it cheating.Only when there is emotional involvement does he cosider it cheating.Women consider things like chat room sex,cheating.So actualy going with a Gay guy,is sure as hell cheatin ,in their eyes.
Hollywood is full of hyprocrits.While most people would consider breeding Bastards as a bad thing .People in Hollywood think that because their rich. They can do it with impunity also no one calls them on it.Especialy not the liberal media.

 

[Thorgasm]

Because of the emotional involvement its cheating.The problem is Men and women are wired diferently. A maried guy who goes with a Gay guy for sexual relief only, doesn't consider it cheating.Only when there is emotional involvement does he cosider it cheating.Women consider things like chat room sex,cheating.So actualy going with a Gay guy,is sure as hell cheatin ,in their eyes.
Hollywood is full of hyprocrits.While most people would consider breeding Bastards as a bad thing .People in Hollywood think that because their rich. They can do it with impunity also no one calls them on it.Especialy not the liberal media.

In our society relationships are usually exclusive. There is no real gay clause, 50 mile clause, or different country clause.That means when you say I am exclusively yours to your partner, it means exactly that. I can't believe that people are rationalizing this in this manner. It's as bad as "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is!"

 

[Stace]

In our society relationships are usually exclusive. There is no real gay clause, 50 mile clause, or different country clause.That means when you say I am exclusively yours to your partner, it means exactly that. I can't believe that people are rationalizing this in this manner. It's as bad as "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is!"

You forgot the area code rule