British Anti-Islam group seeks US Tea Party ties

[Hatuey]

British Anti-Islam group seeks US Tea Party ties - Yahoo! News

The British activists are less drawn to the anti-tax, anti-big-government Tea Party message and more attracted to elements taking an active stance against the spread of Islam, like Rabbi Nachum Shifren, a long-shot Republican candidate for the California state legislature who plans to visit England next week in a trip sponsored in part by the English Defense League.

The trip was organized by Roberta Moore, an English Defense League activist who has formed a "Jewish division" of the group. She said the rabbi will speak at an Oct. 24 rally in London.

"He plans to speak about the dangers of Islamification both in this country and in America," Moore told The Associated Press. "He will talk about the issues we have with immigration and the danger of Sharia law coming to the UK. We have the same objectives as the groups in the USA, and we want to exchange information and work with them."

Matthew Goodwin, a University of Nottingham professor and author of a new book about extremist groups in Britain, said the links being developed with American activists are potentially important.

"We're seeing groups across Europe trying to form a transnational challenge to Islam," he said. "Going to the United States is particularly interesting because the far right in Britain has never gone that way, it has always gone toward Europe. If it did forge strong links to the Tea Party, it would be important because the Tea Party has significant resources."

War makes incredibly strange bed fellows. Who would have ever thought that Jews and far right radicals would unite around a common cause after you know, that entire thing in the early 40s. Shame really. By the way, in case you didn't know:

English Defense League:

Sometimes a thread comes self-Godwinized. No need to really add anything else. By the way. The flag? Yeah. It's from the Lincoln Division of the EDL. If you didn't notice it has the letters 'BNP' inscribed into the Union Jack. They're not known for being Jew-friendly.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Whatever. Does it really matter?

Christ Anti-Islam is acceptable in mainstream media.

But I gotta ask. If Hitler wanted to be my friend, and I said no... Does that automatically make me culpible to his evil? Because he talked to me...

 

[Hatuey]

Whatever. Does it really matter?

Christ Anti-Islam is acceptable in mainstream media.

He's not a Christian. He's a Jewish guy who is forming a 'Jewish division' to an anti-Islamic group with ties to what can only be described as Britain's neo-nazi party.

But I gotta ask. If Hitler wanted to be my friend, and I said no... Does that automatically make me culpible to his evil? Because he talked to me...

Depends. If you talked about creating your own South African division to the SS then, yeah. Kinda.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Depends. If you talked about creating your own South African division to the SS then, yeah. Kinda.

I'll grant you that! I'd be pretty nervous too!

 

[Councilman]

British Anti-Islam group seeks US Tea Party ties - Yahoo! News



War makes incredibly strange bed fellows. Who would have ever thought that Jews and far right radicals would unite around a common cause after you know, that entire thing in the early 40s. Shame really. By the way, in case you didn't know:

English Defense League:

Sometimes a thread comes self-Godwinized. No need to really add anything else. By the way. The flag? Yeah. It's from the Lincoln Division of the EDL. If you didn't notice it has the letters 'BNP' inscribed into the Union Jack. They're not known for being Jew-friendly.

As a Conservative who is very proud of it and a backer of the Tea Party Group and what I believe they stand for.

I caution everyone not to make some connection between our Tea Party and this seemingly Radical group.

I'm sure that the Obamedia idiots Olbermann, Matthews, and Schulz will al try tie these two groups together because they have done nothing but make up lies about the Tea Party so far.

It's a regular tactic, of the Left to play guilt by association when there is no true connection.

So let the Bovine Scatology fly Liberals of the underworld.

 

[Hatuey]

I'll grant you that! I'd be pretty nervous too!

That's the thing. Of all the groups in Britain who have absolutely no ties to neo-nazi skinheads or who have members who simply look like they're skinheads he decides to go with the group that A) has ties with declared skinhead groups and B) has members that look like skinheads. I mean are white neo-nazi the only ones who oppose Sharia law in England? I simply doubt that. That's why I said 'politics' makes strange bedfellows.

 

[Hatuey]

As a Conservative who is very proud of it and a backer of the Tea Party Group and what I believe they stand for.

I caution everyone not to make some connection between our Tea Party and this seemingly Radical group.

I'm sure that the Obamedia idiots Olbermann, Matthews, and Schulz will al try tie these two groups together because they have done nothing but make up lies about the Tea Party so far.

It's a regular tactic, of the Left to play guilt by association when there is no true connection.

So let the Bovine Scatology fly Liberals of the underworld.

He's on the Pasadena Tea Party website:

Is Rabbi Nachum Shifren an

But in the midst of the final weeks of his California Senate campaign he is traveling to the UK to show solidarity with the anti-Islamic English Defense League. This has caused The U.K. Guardian to portray Shifren as part of an international web involving the US Tea Party Movement and the anti-Sharia cause. That in turn has made the British Jewish establishment uneasy about Rabbi Schifrin’s appearances and speeches in Britain. But privately that is Shifren’s objective in making this trip to the UK. He said as much in this quote from The Guardian Observer ‘investigation’:

Shifren, a Californian senate candidate, said Britain's Jewish community should rally behind the EDL: "The Jewish community is paralyzed with fear, exactly what most radical Muslim agitators want. The people of England are in the forefront of this war – and it is a war. One of the purposes of this visit is to put the kibosh on the notion in the Jewish community that they cannot co-operate with the EDL, which is rubbish."​

The Religion of the Tea: We all speak under one voice, just don't make us all responsible for our actions.

 

[Councilman]

There are plenty of Non-radical, logical, reasonable, reasons to oppose "Radical Islam."

When you have Radical Islamic terrorists bombing, killing, and threatening World peace like Iran, there are going to be problems.

It is hard to get a solid number on the total death toll by Islamic Terrorists but that number is not as important to me as how many Muslims who claim to peaceful or moderates that never condemned the Radical who Murder innocent people including other Muslims.

To date I can remember not one who would say flat out they condemn Islamic Terror, and some of that might be out of fear, and that adds to my contention that there need to be a massive change in the basic mind set not of us INFIDELS but on the part of the Muslims or there will never be a change in the way they are treated.

 

[Hatuey]

There are plenty of Non-radical, logical, reasonable, reasons to oppose "Radical Islam."

When you have Radical Islamic terrorists bombing, killing, and threatening World peace like Iran, there are going to be problems.

It is hard to get a solid number on the total death toll by Islamic Terrorists but that number is not as important to me as how many Muslims who claim to peaceful or moderates that never condemned the Radical who Murder innocent people including other Muslims.

To date I can remember not one who would say flat out they condemn Islamic Terror, and some of that might be out of fear, and that adds to my contention that there need to be a massive change in the basic mind set not of us INFIDELS but on the part of the Muslims or there will never be a change in the way they are treated.

As I said: Strange bedfellows. Neo-Nazis and Jews united against Islam. Who would have thought it possible.

 

[Orion]

As I said: Strange bedfellows. Neo-Nazis and Jews united against Islam. Who would have thought it possible.

Anything is possible when the crazy is out in full.

The enemy of thy enemy is thy friend.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

There are plenty of Non-radical, logical, reasonable, reasons to oppose "Radical Islam."

When you have Radical Islamic terrorists bombing, killing, and threatening World peace like Iran, there are going to be problems.

It is hard to get a solid number on the total death toll by Islamic Terrorists but that number is not as important to me as how many Muslims who claim to peaceful or moderates that never condemned the Radical who Murder innocent people including other Muslims.

To date I can remember not one who would say flat out they condemn Islamic Terror, and some of that might be out of fear, and that adds to my contention that there need to be a massive change in the basic mind set not of us INFIDELS but on the part of the Muslims or there will never be a change in the way they are treated.

Really? Not one:

muslims against terror - Google Search

Wow. I found a bunch.

September 10, 2010 ~ Muslims Combating Extremism | Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly

FOXNews.com - Moderate Muslims Speak Out - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum (that one's from Fox News - which supported the Islamic Cultural Center - before they were against it)

The problem for moderate Muslims is the same as the moderate center in America. A moderate voice is rarely newsworthy so it never gets reported. Just because you don't hear it, doesn't make it unsaid.

 

[Councilman]

As I said: Strange bedfellows. Neo-Nazis and Jews united against Islam. Who would have thought it possible.

It's almost like they borrowed the Arabian proverb: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend,"

And there are plenty of people around the World who are waking up to the realization that Sharia Law is very dangerous but as is always the case the most radical or visible organized or apparently organized get the attention.

The push for it is coming here and we had better be ready to stand up to all the accusations that we are intolerant for not wanting out whole way of like destroyed by a Cult with no value for human life or respect for women.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

It's almost like they borrowed the Arabian proverb: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend,"

And there are plenty of people around the World who are waking up to the realization that Sharia Law is very dangerous but as is always the case the most radical or visible organized or apparently organized get the attention.

The push for it is coming here and we had better be ready to stand up to all the accusations that we are intolerant for not wanting out whole way of like destroyed by a Cult with no value for human life or respect for women.

Simply put though: demonizing the moderates of the faith doesn't lessen the impact of extremists; it only helps extremists in the recruitment to their movement.

Burning mosques in Murfreesboro, TN and screaming at the building site of an Islamic Culture Center in NYC isn't going to aid the moderate Muslims. It only fuels the fire of extremists.

 

[Manc Skipper]

...When you have Radical Islamic terrorists bombing, killing, and threatening World peace like Iran, there are going to be problems...

Where is the Iranian bombing, killing and threatening World peace taking place? The only country currently involved in such activities is yours.

 

[Grant]

British Anti-Islam group seeks US Tea Party ties - Yahoo! News



War makes incredibly strange bed fellows. Who would have ever thought that Jews and far right radicals would unite around a common cause after you know, that entire thing in the early 40s. Shame really. By the way, in case you didn't know:

English Defense League:

Sometimes a thread comes self-Godwinized. No need to really add anything else. By the way. The flag? Yeah. It's from the Lincoln Division of the EDL. If you didn't notice it has the letters 'BNP' inscribed into the Union Jack. They're not known for being Jew-friendly.

These people, probably as a result of the British media, are completely missing the intent of the Tea Party.

That is not saying that there should be stricter laws about Muslims emigrating to the western democracies, because there obviously should be, but that has nothing to do with the Tea Party.

 

[Gardener]

As I said: Strange bedfellows. Neo-Nazis and Jews united against Islam. Who would have thought it possible.

It's no stranger than the alliance between the socialist/"progressive"/hard left and the Islamists.

In fact, I would venture that it is a reaction TO this alliance.

 

[Hatuey]

These people, probably as a result of the British media, are completely missing the intent of the Tea Party.

That is not saying that there should be stricter laws about Muslims emigrating to the western democracies, because there obviously should be, but that has nothing to do with the Tea Party.

It's the tea party member who is seeking an alliance with the skinnies.

 

[Laila]

Tea party members wish to have ties with people who are racists? It's not 'Anti Islam'

It's a 'Anti anything-that-is-not-White and is not deemed "indigenous" to UK group (hence the ties with BNP). I hope the Jewish man realises British Jews would be deported soon after us Brown and Muslims people were :doh

Edit: EDL in action this week in Leicester

 

[Red_Dave]

As a Conservative who is very proud of it and a backer of the Tea Party Group and what I believe they stand for.

I caution everyone not to make some connection between our Tea Party and this seemingly Radical group.

I'm sure that the Obamedia idiots Olbermann, Matthews, and Schulz will al try tie these two groups together because they have done nothing but make up lies about the Tea Party so far.

It's a regular tactic, of the Left to play guilt by association when there is no true connection.

So let the Bovine Scatology fly Liberals of the underworld.

So you,re proud of being associated with a group that openly flouts its support for a paramilitary organisations? (See the UFF 'Ulster Freedom Fighters1' in the corner of the flag there and 'combat 18' 2 and you will have a pretty good idea of what kind of people these are. Naturally the 'NF' or 'National Front speaks for itself) The EDL themselves are far more violent then political. You are defending a group of violent racists and not a legitimate political organisation.

1 Ulster Defence Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2 Combat 18 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note that when I say paramilitary organisation I am by no means indulging in hyperbole. The UFF did some pretty horrific things during the conflict in Northern Ireland (A time-line is provided in the wikipedia article) and weapons and explosives have been taken from the homes of combat 18 members, who have a long record of attacking immigrants.

Edit: I now realize you,ve changed you,re position and are no longer 'proud' of you,re association with an organisation that seeks to violently drive our communities apart and now see them as a necessary evil. How do you expect they are going to prevent our apparently imminent enslavement by Islam? If anything it will make Muslims (and everyone else with the wrong skin colour) feel more angry and besieged.

 

[Ikari]

English Defense League.

What are they? Like a soccer team?

 

[Laila]

What are they? Like a soccer team?

Although said that some football hooligans are fans of it, no. It's a far right movement with ties to NF (skinhead group in UK with a white only mantra) and BNP (similar to NF but with suits and political ambitions). The EDL claims to oppose Islamism and the effects of it which include Sharia law and Islamic extremism in England and also claims to be non racist.

 

[Grant]

It's the tea party member who is seeking an alliance with the skinnies.

Read the article, then comment.

 

[Grant]

Burning mosques in Murfreesboro, TN

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about here? Any at all? Who burned down that Mosque? Any idea? Do Muslims feel threatened?

and screaming at the building site of an Islamic Culture Center in NYC isn't going to aid the moderate Muslims.

Actually it seemed to be the pro Mosque people who were doing all the screaming, and they continue to do so.

It only fuels the fire of extremists.

So you'll stay silent and let them do as they will, huh?

You wearing a burka yet?

 

[Manc Skipper]

The teaparty rabbi is coming to speak at a neo-nazi rally. That should be a sudden wake-up!

 

[Le Marteau]

There are idiots in all countries.

The difference is that in America, they get elected to office.

XD