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Biden: "MAGA crowd" is "most extreme" political group in U.S. history

lurchadams said:
Nice try trump fan. What the Democrats want is law and order. The Republican's are so corrupt right now I don't think they're in their right mind, most of them.
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Law and order? Man, you can't be serious.
All these Soros backed DAs have pretty much trashed law and order.
Do you guys even look at reality?
 
Craig234 said:
This far-right political power is not "MAGA", which is the trump label stolen from Reagan. With or without trump it would be the same. It's made of the powerful donors and the corrupt Republican politicians and propaganda machine to manipulate voters.

trump is called 'the head of the Republican Party', but he's not even close. He's this side figure who is the nominal leader - the one getting the votes and leading for president - but he's not the one determining the main agenda. He just 'follows orders' and signs the bills he's handed and nominates the judges handed to him by the Federalist Society and says how he's the greatest president in history.

Reagan was a force in politics. He changed the political culture for the worse. trump is not. He's a flash in the pan creating a sea of red hat wearers who are irrelevant except to be milked for their vote, with all the politicians wearing the hats to 'ride the trump train' and get votes, but trump isn't changing the Republican agenda nearly at all. He's just a 'front'.

And people need to understand that, to understand the issue is the party and not trump. trump is as bad as people say, but they need to understand the party is the problem.

Biden is wrong to tie the right-wing judicial corruption and agenda to trump, even though trump nominated the judges. trump had nothing to do with the decades-long war to take over the courts, nothing to do with the Federalist Society, nothing to do with the over half a billion dollars spent to confirm the right-wing judges, nothing to do with the donors and their agenda. He just nominated the names he was handed.

The country should learn more about the issue than to call it the MAGA movement and tie it to trump. They should learn that abortion is just the 'fluff' issue used to get votes to get power, that what they really care about are rulings to undermine democracy so they can seize power, and to take away the people's power to limit what the wealthy do. Abortion is just a side issue for them, not what they care about.
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correct........and imo the real issue is the masses of working class conservatives......they are the element that cannot give up their old Dixiecrat mentality and their clan mentality and their absurd belief that they can turn the clock back to the 1950's...they love their welfare and social programs but do not want people of color or people they disdain to have the same welfare......why are they this way?.......imo it is simply lack of education and the teachings of their fathers' fathers.......they are raised this way......their peers are raised this way......they dont trust public education anymore.....they were silenced for the most part after the civil rights movement of the 60's but Fox came along and gave them new voice......they are MAGA
 
Grandpappy said:
Law and order? Man, you can't be serious.
All these Soros backed DAs have pretty much trashed law and order.
Do you guys even look at reality?
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LOL
One of your guys in jail on a murder charge just won an election.
 
Grandpappy said:
Law and order? Man, you can't be serious.
All these Soros backed DAs have pretty much trashed law and order.
Do you guys even look at reality?
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No one has lied more or tried to cover up more than the republicans especially over the last 5 years you really can't be serious if you're claiming otherwise.
 
gino said:
Funny coming from a political party who can't even define what a woman is. Let's face it, the Democrats are much more radical than Republicans right now. A Republican of today is a Democrat 30 years ago. Hell, former President Clinton is not really a Democrat any more.
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"Can't define what a woman is" - right-wing propaganda to turn Republicans' inability to understand the concept of gender identity, or to overcome their bigotry, into 'Democrats suck'. Your comment about who has changed how is delusional, proving how effective the right-wing propaganda is at deluding its victims.
 
Craig234 said:
"Can't define what a woman is" - right-wing propaganda
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Really?

“Can you provide a definition for the word ‘woman’?” Blackburn asked.

“Can I provide a definition?” Jackson repeated the question.

“Mmhmm, yeah,” Blackburn confirmed.

“I can’t,” Jackson replied.
 
Indydave said:
correct........and imo the real issue is the masses of working class conservatives......they are the element that cannot give up their old Dixiecrat mentality and their clan mentality and their absurd belief that they can turn the clock back to the 1950's...they love their welfare and social programs but do not want people of color or people they disdain to have the same welfare......why are they this way?.......imo it is simply lack of education and the teachings of their fathers' fathers.......they are raised this way......their peers are raised this way......they dont trust public education anymore.....they were silenced for the most part after the civil rights movement of the 60's but Fox came along and gave them new voice......they are MAGA
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The right-wing project is to use a propaganda machine to get these Americans to be loyal to the Republican brand on issues the propaganda selects, and not to prefer Democrats on real issues.

And it's worked very well for them. It's worked so well that they've convinced that Democrats are to blame for the bad things Republicans cause. For example, the deficit? It's not Republicans with extreme tax cuts for the rich, it's 'big spending Democrats on wasteful programs'. So the deficit Republicans created is a reason to vote against Democrats. This propaganda machine is the country's biggest problem perhaps, or a key piece of it.
 
lurchadams said:
Nice try trump fan. What the Democrats want is law and order. The Republican's are so corrupt right now I don't think they're in their right mind, most of them.
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Trump fan? Where did you get that? Are you in the habit of lying freely?
 
Tlrmln said:
So pass a law. Suddenly, dems are afraid of democracy. Go figure.
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The US isn't a democracy because democracies are abusive to the rights of anyone but the majority. We are a constitutional republic with democratic elections. The SCOTUS isn't to decide ruling based on popular options but on legal facts/precedent.
 
Lisa said:
The US isn't a democracy because democracies are abusive to the rights of anyone but the majority. We are a constitutional republic with democratic elections. The SCOTUS isn't to decide ruling based on popular options but on legal facts/precedent.
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Which is exactly what they are doing, notwithstanding the fact that you disagree with them.
 
lurchadams said:
I will submit that 1 of us just did.
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Feel free to identify what I said that was a lie. You calling me a Trump fan certainly is a lie.
 
Tlrmln said:
Which is exactly what they are doing, notwithstanding the fact that you disagree with them.
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The MAGAites are neo-fascists who are trying to rule by violence and their religious will. They didn't care about trampling on the rights of others, nor do the judges that the Mango Messiah put on the bench.
 
Spunkylama said:
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Biden says "MAGA crowd" the "most extreme" political group in U.S. history

"This is about a lot more than abortion," Biden said before asking what "the next things that are going to be attacked" might be.
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President Biden on Wednesday said the "MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed in American history," while speculating on how conservative state legislatures could respond to a potential Supreme Court ruling that would drastically curtail abortion access.

Why it matters: Biden, answering questions from reporters on a recent Politico leak of draft opinion indicating the Supreme Court has voted to overturn Roe v. Wade, suggested the draft goes against Supreme Court precedent that established a right to privacy.

What he said: "This is about a lot more than abortion," Biden said before asking what "the next things that are going to be attacked" might be.

  • "What happens if you have states change the law saying that children who are LGBTQ can't be in classrooms with other children. Is that legit under the way the decision is written?"
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I mean, they did storm Congress in a violent act of overthrowing the election.
 
Tlrmln said:
So pass a law. Suddenly, dems are afraid of democracy. Go figure.
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Who attacked Congress in a violent, armed attempt to overthrow the election results again?
 
Tlrmln said:
Feel free to identify what I said that was a lie. You calling me a Trump fan certainly is a lie.
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Sure. You called what SCOTUS just did:, "democracy "and you're taunting people (women)in this forum. Your posts are emblematic of the mean, punching down you Trump buddies do. You advocate tyranny.

Oh and finally since you know Trump is hated. You lie about worshipping him.

See? Done. You're welcome.
 
Ikari said:
Who attacked Congress in a violent, armed attempt to overthrow the election results again?
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A few hundred ultra right wing idiots.
 
lurchadams said:
Sure. You called what SCOTUS just did:, "democracy "and you're taunting people (women)in this forum. Your posts are emblematic of the mean, punching down you Trump buddies do. You advocate tyranny.

Oh and finally since you know Trump is hated. You lie about worshipping him.

See? Done. You're welcome.
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Yeah, more stupid lies. I'm firmly pro-choice, genius.
 
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