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Biden Increased the Deficit, Not Reduced It

2016 -584.7
2017 -665.4
2018 -779.1
2019 -983.6
2020 -3,132.4
2021 -2,775.3
2022 -1.4T
So your evidence that Biden increased the deficit is showing (unsourced) information which shows the deficit is less now than when his predecessor left office? This argument makes sense to you?
 
Don't deflect.
Accept that Biden has failed the country.
Trump isn't president anymore.
You're desperate and it shows.
And what's the alternative

Oh ya election deniers and crazies running the show.

No thanks
 
Did I miss where Biden/democrats ran on reducing the deficit/spending in 2020?

I don’t recall seeing that.
 
Did I miss where Biden/democrats ran on reducing the deficit/spending in 2020?

I don’t recall seeing that.
Its the GOP who USE to run as fiscal conservatives. Like the law and order claims. Its BS.

Now they run on denying election results and crazy ass Qnon crap. Yup the loonies like MTG are loose.
 
I am an economist, and my understanding is that govt stimulus is less stimulative than private spending. Im also a philosopher and my understanding is that the purpose of govt is to protect life and liberty, not to stimulate the economy, and especially not through moral politics.

However, infrastructure spending, while a big part of Bidens deficit increase due to the one bill, is a small part of the spending problem. Healthcare is far worse. Which he also contributed to. But mostly which he has just done nothing about, and nor has congress of any party.
You sure about that? Your own source blatantly contradicts your own claim.
 
Don't deflect.
Accept that Biden has failed the country.
Trump isn't president anymore.
You're desperate and it shows.
Deflection is not answering a question and moving to other points.

See anything familiar in your post?
 
The US deficit has been decreasing since. FY 2020
FY 2020 $3.13T
FY 2021 $2.77T
FY 2022 $1.38T

While the President signs spending Bills it is Congress who writes and passes the Bills for the President signature or veto. Don't overlook the role of Congress in the deficit.

ps. Even under Trump the deficit increased each year.
Which is different from President Biden. He and the D congress are lowering national deficits.
 
2016 -584.7
2017 -665.4
2018 -779.1
2019 -983.6
2020 -3,132.4
2021 -2,775.3
2022 -1.4T

So, compared to prepandemic levels, the deficit is was about 500bn higher. CBOs prediction for 2023 is 1.5 trillion deficit and 2.1 trillion by 2032. And this is without passing the full BBB spending bill or Bidens latest budget which further would have increased it per their own tables.

And this is not actually Bidens fault. Sure, he signed over 5 trillion in NEW spending since he took office, which was passed without almost any Republicans in congress, but most spending is mandatory. Healthcare accounts for almost the entire deficit. Dems and Reps have both been rubber stamping continuing spending resolution bills and massive omnibus bills which increase regular spending, and doing nothing about mandatory spending which accounts for almost all of the budget.

Biden will keep saying historic deficit reduction, but this is View attachment 67418919
New Hampshire's republican party supporting newspaper,

https://www.unionleader.com › opinion › editorials › our-choice-is-joe-biden › article_e2053388-cc66-59f4-9e7f-8e01a1ea11df.html

Our choice is Joe Biden* | Editorials | unionleader.com

Oct 25, 2020 "Our choice is Joe Biden* Oct 25, 2020 This year's general election ballot presents the voter with a dilemma. We have wrestled with this year's choices, as we imagine many voters have. Up and down...
Since Trump took over, the national debt has exploded by more than 7 TRILLION dollars. While the last several trillion was in response to the COVID-19 economic crisis, at least the first three trillion was on the books well before the pandemic, while Trump was presiding over “...the best economy we’ve ever had in the history of our country.” (Trump’s words.)
The layman would expect that the best economy in history would be a time to get the fiscal house in order, pay down debt and prepare for a rainy day (or perhaps a worldwide pandemic)..."

Trump authorized borrowing in first full fiscal year, October 1, 2017 - Sept. 30, 2018, = $1,271 billion and no infrastructure improvement spending
Biden authorized borrowing in first full fiscal year, October 1, 2021 - Sept. 30, 2022, = $1,207 billion.
From October 1, 2017 - December. 31, 2017, there was not yet reduced revenue resulting from 2017 Trump tax cuts or covid-19 inflationary impact

the first fiscal year on Trump's watch began October 1, 2017, avg. monthly borrowing jumped from $57 billion to $106 billion each month and
never below $100 billion per month, since.

End of Fiscal YearDebt (in billions, rounded)Debt-to-GDP RatioMajor Events by Presidential Term

2016$19,573105%Brexit
2017$20,245104%Congress raised the debt ceiling (Gov. borrowing average $57 billion each month)
2018$21,516105%Trump tax cuts (October 1, 2017 - Sept. 30, 2018, borrowing average $106 billion each month)
2019$22,719107%Trade wars
2020$27,748129%COVID-19 and 2020 recession (October 1, 2019 - Sept. 30, 2020, Trump authorized borrowing $5,029 billion, )
2021$29,617124%COVID-19 and American Rescue Plan Act
2022$30,824123%Inflation Reduction Act and student loan forgiveness (October 1, 2021 - Sept. 30, 2022 (Biden auth. borrowing $1,207 billion)
 
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Even CNN cant defend it


And these deficit are far worse with rising interest rates. Interest on the debt triples in the next 10 years as we add another 15 trillion in debt. Thats 20% of every dollar collected in taxed going just to service the debt. And here Biden is acting like 1.4 trillion deficit is an accomplishment?
 
New Hampshire's republican party supporting newspaper,

https://www.unionleader.com › opinion › editorials › our-choice-is-joe-biden › article_e2053388-cc66-59f4-9e7f-8e01a1ea11df.html

Our choice is Joe Biden* | Editorials | unionleader.com

Oct 25, 2020 "Our choice is Joe Biden* Oct 25, 2020 This year's general election ballot presents the voter with a dilemma. We have wrestled with this year's choices, as we imagine many voters have. Up and down...
Since Trump took over, the national debt has exploded by more than 7 TRILLION dollars. While the last several trillion was in response to the COVID-19 economic crisis, at least the first three trillion was on the books well before the pandemic, while Trump was presiding over “...the best economy we’ve ever had in the history of our country.” (Trump’s words.)
The layman would expect that the best economy in history would be a time to get the fiscal house in order, pay down debt and prepare for a rainy day (or perhaps a worldwide pandemic)..."

Trump authorized borrowing in first full fiscal year, October 1, 2017 - Sept. 30, 2018, = $1,271 billion and no infrastructure improvement spending
Biden authorized borrowing in first full fiscal year, October 1, 2021 - Sept. 30, 2022, = $1,207 billion.
From October 1, 2017 - December. 31, 2017, there was not yet reduced revenue resulting from 2017 Trump tax cuts or covid-19 inflationary impact

the first fiscal year on Trump's watch began October 1, 2017, avg. monthly borrowing jumped from $57 billion to $106 billion each month and
never below $100 billion per month, since.

End of Fiscal YearDebt (in billions, rounded)Debt-to-GDP RatioMajor Events by Presidential Term

2016$19,573105%Brexit
2017$20,245104%Congress raised the debt ceiling (Gov. borrowing average $57 billion each month)
2018$21,516105%Trump tax cuts (October 1, 2017 - Sept. 30, 2018, borrowing average $106 billion each month)
2019$22,719107%Trade wars
2020$27,748129%COVID-19 and 2020 recession (October 1, 2019 - Sept. 30, 2020, Trump authorized borrowing $5,029 billion, )
2021$29,617124%COVID-19 and American Rescue Plan Act
2022$30,824123%Inflation Reduction Act and student loan forgiveness (October 1, 2021 - Sept. 30, 2022 (Biden auth. borrowing $1,207 billion)
If democrats win Biden will not hold back
 
Even CNN cant defend it


And these deficit are far worse with rising interest rates. Interest on the debt triples in the next 10 years as we add another 15 trillion in debt. Thats 20% of every dollar collected in taxed going just to service the debt. And here Biden is acting like 1.4 trillion deficit is an accomplishment?
How do you know what will be added as debt? How do you know what our revenue will be over the next 10 years? You don't.
Because $1.4 trillion is half of the $2.8 trillion in 2021 and a smaller % than the $3.1 trillion in 2020.
 
The actions and policies of previous presidents affects the one in office, good and/or bad. Affecting the current president’s ability to govern.

This means that the previous president is still relevant.

I agree that we should still judge a current president on what they do, but we can’t discount what happened before.

You don’t want to accept that Trump failed the country. So you try a very lame and dismissive argument that since Trump isn’t president anymore then it doesn’t matter.

Sorry. That won’t work. It’s kind of hypocritical as well: you guys still go after Obama…
Correct. It's cumulative and it's quite the feat to spend more in 4 years than someone that spent across 8 years especially when there are investigations into funds being misappropriated since his inauguration spending.

I don't know how often this gets updated (the current page is dated 7/12/2022) but it presents a more balanced "snap shot".

 
Correct. It's cumulative and it's quite the feat to spend more in 4 years than someone that spent across 8 years especially when there are investigations into funds being misappropriated since his inauguration spending.

Its not a feat at all. Spending only goes up. Bidens own proposed budget spends 25 trillion in his 4 years. Thats 6 trillion MORE than during the last President. So long as no one does anything about out of control social spending, which is all mandatory, itll just keep going up. And Biden made that worse too with 5 trillion in new spending he signed, which further increases health care spending.

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Its not a feat at all. Spending only goes up. Bidens own proposed budget spends 25 trillion in his 4 years. Thats 6 trillion MORE than during the last President. So long as no one does anything about out of control social spending, which is all mandatory, itll just keep going up. And Biden made that worse too with 5 trillion in new spending he signed, which further increases health care spending.

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Biden decreased the deficit. By almost half, actually year over year.
 
Isn't it funny how Republican politicians who voted against these very important laws that the Democrats passed are now out there bragging about them to their constituents and making sure that their constituents earn that money for income for themselves which will then turn into payroll taxes which will then turn into those people buying groceries and cars and houses and Republicans can't see that at all or at least don't want to talk about it.
 
It's interesting reading threads like this, but what's more interesting is noticing who, as far as which political faction, starts threads like this one. It's never liberals/progressives who question the debt or the deficit or attempt to place blame for it at a Republican president's feet, that is not until who's truly to blame for the increase and why is made part of the debate. Nonetheless, my assessment is every time this topic comes up it's always a conservative Republican who does it. And every time, they point the finger at the Democrat president who's in office always ignoring what the economic conditions were when he took office, never acknowledging the deficit spending that was also done by the liberal president's predecessor.

The deficit ballooned under GWB and Trump, but conservatives rarely, if every, mention it. Instead, they seem to harp on the deficit only when a Democrat is in the White House. I don't recall at time where conservatives ever really complained about GWB or Trump adding significantly to the deficit nor do I recall a conservative ever discussing a time when either former Republican presidents trimmed the deficit - perhaps because it didn't happen under their watch - but conservatives have been quick to demean former Pres. Obama and now Pres. Biden, for example, for increasing the deficit yet they never give them credit for their deficit reduction efforts. Why is that?
 
Biden decreased the deficit. By almost half, actually year over year.

Correct. The issue is some partisans just refuse to take a balanced look at what's really happening.
 
Getting nothing? Yes. We spend too much, and too much on 'infrastructure'. And Biden delivered even higher deficits with his.
You just had the facts presented to you.
 
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