Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:169]

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Zimmerman charged

If you want to see what the vast majority of people want look at the bounties. Look at the death threats. Read the comments on the news articles. There are a ton of people out there who want blood. Not justice. Vengeance.

People who want regular boring things don't make headlines. They are not what is called news.

News is biased toward outliers, not the norms.

If what was in the news was normal, it wouldn't be news. imho

 

[Kreton]

Re: Zimmerman charged

Listening to the press conference. She isn't saying anything. Was hoping she was gonna drop some actual info.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Zimmerman charged

Zimmerman was already out of the car following Martin when the operator asked. Nothing proves he continued.

The time alotted vs distance covered shows that either Z was sprinting a 100(?)yd dash while on the phone and we couldn't tell from listening to him talk, or that he continued at a more leisurely pace outside of the time alotted.
But he didn't walk the distance in the time alotted.

 

[barbarian_style]

Re: Zimmerman charged

Listening to the press conference. She isn't saying anything. Was hoping she was gonna drop some actual info.

Good for her she seems to be bringing some integrity back to this case.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

The politicians could not risk a Grand Jury that chose not to indict. It is as simple as that

Or, it could be that Ms Corey doesn't like to use GJs and she didn't have to.
She does have a history of avoiding them.
Afaict, since the gj only gets to hear from the prosecution, they're likely to "indict a ham sandwich".

I don't think this theory of yours passes the sniff test, imho.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Zimmerman charged

2nd degree murder is what is being reported now. I am pretty shocked by that.

Me too. Corey must have something good.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

So, why is it do you all suppose that Hannity talked to George Zimmerman and then said, "I have no intention of going on the record" and broadcast those comments? Then said that law enforcement will probably want to talk to him and that they can talk to his lawyers first.
Why would a "news" or "commentator" with a breaking and very hot exclusive keep it silent? I'm thinking that Zimmerman's comments didn't exactly go with Hannity's hell-bent narrative. I'm open to other possibilities but I can't see why he'd sit on it.

If Z said he was telling H stuff "off the record" and H reported it, H would lose the trust of others who might want to confide in him otr.
It's standard journalist stuff, i think.

 

[poweRob]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

If Z said he was telling H stuff "off the record" and H reported it, H would lose the trust of others who might want to confide in him otr.
It's standard journalist stuff, i think.

Well, in this case, if Z contacted a journalists... I'm thinking he didn't want to do so to keep silent doncha think? Hannity didn't say that Z asked him NOT to report it. Hannity said that he himself chose not to report the content of the conversation.

 

[ric27]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

Read more: Zimmerman to be charged by Florida special prosecutor, report says | Fox News Always Fair and Balanced News Source

ok....then 2 can play this game...

If this *setup* continues and goes to trial then a change of venue is a must in this case

Its moving, the jury trial away from a location *I'd suggest another state* where a fair and impartial jury *IS NOT* possible due to widespread bias publicity about the crime and the defendant (Zimmerman)

A place where jurors can be more objective in their duties.

 

[poweRob]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

ok....then 2 can play this game...

If this *setup* continues and goes to trial then a change of venue is a must in this case

Its moving, the jury trial away from a location *I'd suggest another state* where a fair and impartial jury *IS NOT* possible due to widespread bias publicity about the crime and the defendant (Zimmerman)

A place where jurors can be more objective in their duties.

Setup? LOL

The eating of crow has begun... bitterly.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Re: Zimmerman charged

* Brought to you by "The Libertarians"

I did LOLIRL.

 

[poweRob]

Re: Zimmerman charged

I did LOLIRL.

I was sure hoping so. The time it took you to respond I was sitting here thinking, "Damn. I bet he thinks I was trolling him." lol

 

[Kreton]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

If Z said he was telling H stuff "off the record" and H reported it, H would lose the trust of others who might want to confide in him otr.
It's standard journalist stuff, i think.

Yea also if he states it pubically i think he could be called to testify as a witness.

 

[barbarian_style]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

ok....then 2 can play this game...

If this *setup* continues and goes to trial then a change of venue is a must in this case

Its moving, the jury trial away from a location *I'd suggest another state* where a fair and impartial jury *IS NOT* possible due to widespread bias publicity about the crime and the defendant (Zimmerman)

A place where jurors can be more objective in their duties.

It won't be 2 can play at any game he will be able to go up against a jury of his peers, that will be 12 people from what I gather.

 

[Kreton]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

ok....then 2 can play this game...

If this *setup* continues and goes to trial then a change of venue is a must in this case

Its moving, the jury trial away from a location *I'd suggest another state* where a fair and impartial jury *IS NOT* possible due to widespread bias publicity about the crime and the defendant (Zimmerman)

A place where jurors can be more objective in their duties.

This case is wide spread everywhere. I think he has just as much a shot at a fair trial in florida as he does anywhere else.

 

[tecoyah]

Re: Zimmerman charged

In my opinion, this thread makes it quite clear what needs to happen. One person Shot, and killed another.

Facts are sketchy, as far as the details....thus, we need to find out what happened.

We take it to trial...once charges are pressed against the admitted shooter, detailed investigation, testimony, and facts will inevitably come to light.


It may be Trayvon created the confrontation, perhaps Zimmerman is at fault...we should probably find out....don't you think?

 

[poweRob]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

Yea also if he states it pubically i think he could be called to testify as a witness.

Well I think perhaps that his flat out admission of a conversation with Z might make him subject to a subpoena.

 

[Wake]

Re: Zimmerman charged

It may be Trayvon created the confrontation, perhaps Zimmerman is at fault...we should probably find out....don't you think?

Exactly.

We just don't have enough absolute facts. All people are doing is beating eachother down over speculation.

 

[poweRob]

Re: Zimmerman charged

In my opinion, this thread makes it quite clear what needs to happen. One person Shot, and killed another.

Facts are sketchy, as far as the details....thus, we need to find out what happened.

We take it to trial...once charges are pressed against the admitted shooter, detailed investigation, testimony, and facts will inevitably come to light.


It may be Trayvon created the confrontation, perhaps Zimmerman is at fault...we should probably find out....don't you think?

I'd almost bet that it won't go to a trial. I'm thinking there will be a plea deal.

 

[ric27]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

This case is wide spread everywhere. I think he has just as much a shot at a fair trial in florida as he does anywhere else.

It seems that throwing Zimmerman under the bus to avoid further unrest within a particular demographic is the expediant answer instead of an objective trial in another jurisdiction.

 

[Caine]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

That's not true at all. Dropping the grand jury was because the prosecutor was not going to charge Zimmerman with 1st degree murder, which requires the grand jury. Manslaughter and lesser crimes do not require the grand jury. It's as simple as that. But don't let that change your hatred for the legal system.

Maybe they don't require a grand jury but I think it would be important for it to go before one rather than not.

 

[poweRob]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

It seems that throwing Zimmerman under the bus to avoid further unrest within a particular demographic is the expediant answer instead of an objective trial in another jurisdiction.

MOAR race-baiting. Does it ever end?

It couldn't POSSIBLY be that they have evidence to arrest him?

 

[Eighty Deuce]

Re: Zimmerman charged

I'd almost bet that it won't go to a trial. I'm thinking there will be a plea deal.

Nope. Case too big. If you were innocent, you would not cop a plea no matter what. In the meantime, Zimmerman can expect some outside help with fees, and as he should anticipate acquittal, millions for a book deal and TV appearances afterwards.

Now, if he is guilty as sin, and they got the goods, then a plea deal. But enough evidence has been leaked to indicate he has a good case.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Attorneys for George Zimmerman,..say they can't find him, fear for his safety [W:

It seems that throwing Zimmerman under the bus to avoid further unrest within a particular demographic is the expediant answer instead of an objective trial in another jurisdiction.

W/o the evidence available to the SA, how can you reach this conclusion?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Zimmerman charged

But enough evidence has been leaked to indicate he has a good case.

I disagree. Afaict, the evidence that is out is ambiguous and vague at best.