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"If this passes, abortion would be virtually banned in the state of Texas, and many women could be forced to resort to dangerous and unsafe measures," President Cecile Richards of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund commented.

A. It's a GOOD thing that abortion would be "virtually banned". Don't we all want abortion to be rare?

B. Women wouldn't have to resort to "dangerous and unsafe measures". Millions of women have very safe pregnancies. You don't have to kill your baby.
 

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"If this passes, abortion would be virtually banned in the state of Texas, and many women could be forced to resort to dangerous and unsafe measures," President Cecile Richards of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund commented.

A. It's a GOOD thing that abortion would be "virtually banned". Don't we all want abortion to be rare?

B. Women wouldn't have to resort to "dangerous and unsafe measures". Millions of women have very safe pregnancies. You don't have to kill your baby.

No it's not, we want abortion to be rare by choice, not by law.

And yes they would, they would not just go through with an unwanted pregnancy. They would find other ways to end it, dangerous ways, which would harm women.
 

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No it's not, we want abortion to be rare by choice, not by law.

It will never be rare by choice.

And yes they would, they would not just go through with an unwanted pregnancy. They would find other ways to end it, dangerous ways, which would harm women.

Again, pregnancies in the US are by and large very much NOT dangerous. If you're CHOOSING to make it dangerous for yourself, so be it.
 

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It will never be rare by choice.



Again, pregnancies in the US are by and large very much NOT dangerous. If you're CHOOSING to make it dangerous for yourself, so be it.

Abortion can be are especially among teens is if you have good sex education, readily available contraception, and morning after pills it will be rare. Pregnancies may be safe but ending an unwanted one will become dangerous and women are willing to go to any length to end a pregnancy they truly do not want. It also all comes down to a constitutional issue.
 

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Again, pregnancies in the US are by and large very much NOT dangerous. If you're CHOOSING to make it dangerous for yourself, so be it.

A study found abortion can be reduced.
Researchers provided free, FDA-approved birth control to the women for three years. The women were given their choice of contraception, including oral birth control pills and long-acting reversible contraceptive (LARC) methods like implants and IUDs. The researchers specially briefed the participants on the “superior effectiveness” of LARC methods — the T-shaped IUD, or intrauterine device, has close to 100% effectiveness and can last five to 10 years, for instance — and 75% of women chose those devices over the pill, patch or ring.

Over the course of the study, which lasted from 2008 to 2010, women experienced far fewer unintended pregnancies than expected: there were 4.4 to 7.5 abortions per 1,000 women in the study, after adjusting for age and race — much fewer than the national rate of 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women and lower also than the rate in the St. Louis area of 13.4 to 17 abortions per 1,000 women.

The effect of free contraception on the teen birth rate was remarkable: there were 6.3 births per 1,000 girls aged 15 to 19 in the study, compared with the national rate of 34.3 births per 1,000 teen girls.

Read more: Study: Free Birth Control Slashes Abortion Rates | TIME.com

That is one study under those circumstances, using 9,256 women. Imagine if it became a nation wide program.

Pregnancy isn't the danger, illegal abortions are.
 

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Abortion can be are especially among teens is if you have good sex education, readily available contraception, and morning after pills it will be rare.

We already have sex education, contraception available at any drug store (or given out for free) and the morning after pill. Abortion still isn't rare and it never will be until strict laws are passed against it. Someone has to speak for those with no voice.

Pregnancies may be safe but ending an unwanted one will become dangerous and women are willing to go to any length to end a pregnancy they truly do not want.

If a woman is so desperate to kill her child that she'll put her own life at risk, she's an idiot.

It also all comes down to a constitutional issue.

And what part of the Constitution would we be discussing here?
 

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Pregnancy isn't the danger, illegal abortions are.

Then.......................................... don't have one.
 

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All I wanna know is how sonograms are not relevant to an abortion bill. Just ridiculous.

Anyways, 45 minutes to go, if it hits 1 AM without a vote this bill is dead.
 

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Then.......................................... don't have one.

Rule 1: Don't have a high opinion of your fellow man.
 

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Then.......................................... don't have one.

A desperate woman, is just that, desperate.

And with programs like I linked to you, the abortion rate could be tremendously reduced.
 

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The republicans are just ignoring all of the rules, just ugh. :doh
 

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"At what point must a female senator raise her hand or her voice to be heard over the male colleagues in the room?"

Oh ****! :lol:
 

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Crowd seems to be taking us to the deadline, amazing to watch.

This is what happens when you stop the filibusterer because somehow sonograms, Roe V Wade, and Planned Parenthood aren't relevant to the abortion bill.

****ing awesome.
 

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Crowd is drowning out the President, can't get order. Awesome.
 

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The bill is dead!
 

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The president is trying to get a vote after midnight. Just ridiculous.
 

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So they made an illegal vote and voted after midnight to pass the bill 17-12. Vote should not count, the dems are trying to sort it out.
 

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Such bull****, I saw them not vote and it was 1 AM(midnight central).
 

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Now the mainstream media is falsely reporting that the bill passed, when nearly 200 thousand people watched on as they didn't pass it.

Seriously ****ed up.
 

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The AP's source for their story is the Lt. Governor, how ridiculous.
 

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"If this passes, abortion would be virtually banned in the state of Texas, and many women could be forced to resort to dangerous and unsafe measures," President Cecile Richards of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund commented.

A. It's a GOOD thing that abortion would be "virtually banned". Don't we all want abortion to be rare?

B. Women wouldn't have to resort to "dangerous and unsafe measures". Millions of women have very safe pregnancies. You don't have to kill your baby.

A. Banning abortion does not make it rare. In fact, it has no impact at all on how many women abort.

B. Some women don't want to be pregnant. And given the depleting and invasive nature of pregnancy, they have that right. And they will do whatever it takes to end it no matter what you think about it.

You counter Richards with an almost smarmy line about "millions of women have very safe pregnancies" as though you think it's ok for women to be forced to do things with their bodies, and even to encounter harm if they aren't one of those "millions." Oh, wait. You do think that's ok.

Supporting a ban on abortion is supporting the death of both women and children, point blank. It is also profoundly controlling and against every right this country supposedly gives you.
 
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