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Answer me this:

Rogue Valley said:
Plenty of US soldiers were immigrants who saddled-up with the government promise of citizenship.
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Immigrants are fine. The problem is illegal aliens. If we were at war and needed soldiers I would be fine with awarding citizenship to a foreign national that wanted to serve our country.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Immigrants are fine. The problem is illegal aliens. If we were at war and needed soldiers I would be fine with awarding citizenship to a foreign national that wanted to serve our country.
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That's actually how my father in law gained citizenship. He served in the US Army in the Pacific during WWII.
 
Gaius46 said:
Can you actually provide evidence of your first contention?
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The only people who have actual information are not a source that you would accept.
Gaius46 said:
The LAPD's press release this morning noted 42 arrests with no information whatsoever on previous criminal activity so I'm guessing your information is incorrect.
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The LAPD arrests people for charges related to the rioting. They're not arresting anyone on immigration charges.
Gaius46 said:
And so what. The LAPD is
more than capable of dealing with a protest.
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The LAPD, as an agency of a "sanctuary city," refused to act in the early stages of the rioting.
Gaius46 said:
As to your second contention strangely Trump's EO says nothing about protecting federal facilities
because the LAPD won't. In fact most federal facilities have their own - non military - security.
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The authority to activate the National Guard isn't limited to protecting federal facilities. Since the LAPD came into action, the Guard is protecting federal facilities and the LAPD is taking the brunt of riot action.
 
JMR said:
Probably because the know it annoys the hell out of some people they are trying to annoy....
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Frankly, I don't think the people doing that are that smart.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Let me make sure I understand. People have given everything to go to a place that they believe is brutal, and support the culture of the place that they resist being in. Is that right?
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I believe Mexico has a longer history in California than the US does.

Thus, there are strong cultural ties to Mexico there.
 
lynnwinslow said:
People can use symbols to show support for a culture.
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If people are indicating that they intend to make America's culture into Mexico's culture, to me, that significantly strengthens the argument for mass deportations.

My willingness to take on the huddled masses willing to assimilate and yearning to breathe free is far greater than my tolerance for those who want to turn us into another central American partial-basket case.
 
j brown's body said:
I believe Mexico has a longer history in California than the US does.
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j brown's body said:
Thus, there are strong cultural ties to Mexico there.
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Mexico is not a culture it's a nation.

The cultural times is California declared independence from Mexico, shortly after became allies and eventually part of the US who threatened Mexico with a violence if they didn't leave California to its own people.

So the cultural ties to Mexico is colonization.
 
j brown's body said:
I believe Mexico has a longer history in California than the US does.
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Yes. And ???
j brown's body said:
Thus, there are strong cultural ties to Mexico there.
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And yet people leave there in their millions, leaving that culture to come here. Are these the same people that are burning flags and attacking the police in the streets of L.A.?
 
cpwill said:
If people are indicating that they intend to make America's culture into Mexico's culture, to me, that significantly strengthens the argument for mass deportations.

My willingness to take on the huddled masses willing to assimilate and yearning to breathe free is far greater than my tolerance for those who want to turn us into another central American partial-basket case.
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The US is the one who turned those countries into “basket cases” in the first place.
 
cpwill said:
If people are indicating that they intend to make America's culture into Mexico's culture, to me, that significantly strengthens the argument for mass deportations.
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Who said that was happening?
cpwill said:
My willingness to take on the huddled masses willing to assimilate and yearning to breathe free is far greater than my tolerance for those who want to turn us into another central American partial-basket case.
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Sounds hyperbolic to me but you do you.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The US is the one who turned those countries into “basket cases” in the first place.
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I don't buy into this us supremacy narrative. The existence of the US doesn't hurt places like Mexico. It may make Mexico look bad by comparison because of the corruption of the government
 
cpwill said:
If people are indicating that they intend to make America's culture into Mexico's culture, to me, that significantly strengthens the argument for mass deportations.
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🤣

Aside from the word-salad, I am genuinely curious as to when you think "Mexico's culture" is.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I don't buy into this us supremacy narrative. The existence of the US doesn't hurt places like Mexico. It may make Mexico look bad by comparison because of the corruption of the government
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Without the US backing the “perfect dictatorship” of the PRI for decades corruption in Mexico would not be anywhere near as powerful as it is.

Without the US demand for drugs, the cartels never could have reached the level of power they have in either Mexico or Colombia before it.

The US annexed a vast chunk of Mexico’s land, and tried to grab even more in failed filibuster campaigns south of the Rio Grande.

And that isn’t even getting into things like the genocide the US enabled in Guatemala, or the utterly vicious death squads the US trained and armed in places like El Salvador, or the outright insane tyrants like the Duvaliers in Haiti who got American backing.
 
JMR said:
Actually there is/was a program that enlists immigrants with language and medical skills, who lack a green card, and are promised eventual citizenship.
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Why would there be a special system immigrants are people who are legally here. If they like a green card they're not immigrants. That would be illegal aliens are military should not be staffed with people that have a contempt for our laws.
 
Answer me this:

Why do right wing nationalists cry more about a flag being burned than actual, anti-freedom Gestapo shit going on? It's almost like you don't actually give a **** about what the flag is SUPPOSED to stand for, you're just a partisan bootlicker, a bumper sticker patriot.

Which is par for the course because we all know right wing authoritarians care way more about symbols than having any actual principles, and damaging their symbols hurts their feefees way more than when the government violates supposedly American values.
 
And to answer your question, the reason the flag gets burnt is because the people who wave the flag the hardest are the most disgusting fascist authoritarians and white supremacists known to man - which is y'all.
 
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