Another Question for Conservatives. (This one is about Clinton)

[mpg]

Did you read the quoted section in my post you responded to?
Obviously not, if you did you wouldn't be asking this... Let me repost this once again....

Source: my original post


This answers your question. In fact it had nothing to do with the Lewinsky stuff.
If you don't like my answer, do your own research.
Im certain you'll come up with something different though.

How can you say "it had nothing to do with the Lewinsky stuff."? That's what he got caught lying about.

 

[mpg]

JFK was a much bigger whore than Clinton yet you never mention this, how come?

Now you want to bring JFK into this thread?

 

[mpg]

He supported NAFTA, his international trade policies were centered around lifting trade barriers, as governor he formed the group "The New Democrats" who supported welfare reform and smaller government.

True, but he also opposed NAFTA, opposed welfare reform, and expanded the government.

 

[mpg]

Ah yes -- it wasnt proven in a court of law, so it didnt happen.
Unless the object up for consideration is a republican -- then the mere hint of an accusation is enough.

That's the mantra of the Democrats.

 

[Deegan]

I think this thread's dead...........Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead.

 

[mpg]

Nothing concrete? How about these from Bill Clinton:

“Sometimes when people are under stress, they hate to think, and it's the time when they most need to think.”

“I like that about the Republicans; the evidence does not faze them, they are not bothered at all by the facts.”

“Global poverty is a powder keg that could be ignited by our indifference.”

“By lifting the weakest, poorest among us, we lift the rest of us as well.”

“There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America”

“Politics is not religion and we should govern on the basis of evidence, not theology.”

"The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth”

“Our paradigm now seems to be: Something terrible happened to us on September 11, and that gives us the right to interpret all future events in a way that everyone else in the world must agree with us. And if they don't, they can go straight to hell.”

Which one of those is supposed to be concrete?

 

[Caine]

How can you say "it had nothing to do with the Lewinsky stuff."? That's what he got caught lying about.

He was held in contempt of court by the judge presiding over the Paula Jones bullcrap.

 

[mpg]

Obviously you know nothing about smoking pot, or anything about Clinton for that matter.

I've seen many occassions in pot smoking circles where someone wants to be part of the crowd, and merely brings the joint up to their lips and pretends to inhale...quickly passing it on...or perhaps, even drawing the smoke into their mouth, but then quickly exhaling without ever allowing the smoke to enter their lungs.

Whereas, with Bush...that line of cocaine is either still there on the table or up up his nose....there's no pretending.

I'm not saying whether Clinton inhaled or not, but his response is far more reasonable then Bush lying about his cocaine use.

I don't know what W said about his alleged cocaine use, but do you know where that allegation came from? It came from an anonymous source quoted in a book written by a convicted murderer. I'm not saying that W never did coke. maybe he did. He's a baby boomer. Him, Clinton, and Gore, were all born in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if all three of them have done coke, but when you consider where the allegation came from, it's no surprise that he denied it. BFD. Clinton's own brother said "My brother's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.". What did Bill say about that?

 

[mpg]

Seems to me that the GOP's only weapon against Clinton the President is his sexual escapades....how sad for the GOP!

Try reading post #16 in this thread.

 

[mpg]

Negative.

He is far from the most corrupt president we have ever had.

Who was worse?

 

[mpg]

Funny how some people think a blow job is worse than lying to start a war!

I'm not aware of anyone who thinks that. Who are you referring to?

 

[Caine]

Who was worse?

Grant was pretty corrupt.

 

[mpg]

He was held in contempt of court by the judge presiding over the Paula Jones bullcrap.

No kidding. In which civil trial do you think he was testifying about Lewinsky?

 

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Grant was pretty corrupt.

Did he provide secrets to a foreign power?

 

[Caine]

No kidding. In which civil trial do you think he was testifying about Lewinsky?

I never said anything about what I thought.
I posted some info showing that what Navy Pride loves to have everyone believe is not true, he was never punished as a part of the impeachment for perjury, it was contempt of court in a completely different trial than he would have people believe.

I never asked you to jump into this asking dumb questions.

 

[Caine]

Did he provide secrets to a foreign power?

Was any action taken against him?

I guess he is just as guilty as Rove then.

 

[mpg]

Was any action taken against him?

I guess he is just as guilty as Rove then.

"Corrupt" and "illegal" aren't the same thing. It's a proven fact that Clinton authorized the transfer of secrets to the PRC. Do you deny this?

 

[BWG]

I don't know what W said about his alleged cocaine use, but do you know where that allegation came from? It came from an anonymous source quoted in a book written by a convicted murderer...<snip>...but when you consider where the allegation came from, it's no surprise that he denied it.

Clinton's own brother said "My brother's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.". What did Bill say about that?

Are you saying that one should discount one convict's allegations, but accept anothers? :?

Roger Clinton served prison time after pleading guilty in 1985 to a charge of conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He had tried to sell the drug to an undercover state trooper in Hot Springs,

 

[Deegan]

Are you saying that one should discount one convict's allegations, but accept anothers? :?

Roger Clinton served prison time after pleading guilty in 1985 to a charge of conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He had tried to sell the drug to an undercover state trooper in Hot Springs,

Was his record expunged?

 

[26 X World Champs]

My biggest problem with Clinton came right before he left office, some of his pardons were the most outrageous I have ever seen, I wish someone could explain those for me?

Just to clarify that President Clinton was not setting any sort of precedent with Presidential pardons here are Reagans:

Ronald Reagan's Presidential Pardons
Albert Alkek Clemency for withholding information from federal officials regarding an oil price-fixing scheme.

Gilbert Dozier Commuted sentence for extortion and racketeering.

W. Mark Felt (Deep Throat) Clemency for authorizing FBI agents to break into Vietnam protestors' offices without warrants.

Junior Johnson Pardoned for liquor offences committed in the 1950s.

Edward Miller Clemency for authorizing FBI agents to break into Vietnam protestors' offices without warrants.

George Steinbrenner Clemency for making illegal contributions to Richard M. Nixon's 1972 re-election campaign.

 

[Deegan]

Just to clarify that President Clinton was not setting any sort of precedent with Presidential pardons here are Reagans:

Sorry, but that does nothing of the sort, 140 in his last day, and none brought before the office of pardons, I would say that was setting a precedent, wouldn't you, in all honesty?

That said, pointing to bad behavior, to justify worse behavior, is just not addressing this issue, are we not focusing on Clinton?

 

[26 X World Champs]

That is and easy one, he is a crook and it was a pay back to crooks like Mark Rich for money he contributed to "Slick Willie."

Prove that President Clinton is a CROOK! This is a falsehood and unture and you know it! What makes you post like this?

 

[mpg]

Are you saying that one should discount one convict's allegations, but accept anothers? :?

Roger Clinton served prison time after pleading guilty in 1985 to a charge of conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He had tried to sell the drug to an undercover state trooper in Hot Springs,

It was his own brother.

 

[BWG]

Was his record expunged?

A convict is a convict, unless it is spelled out, such as deferred adjudication. Did this happen? I honestly don't know.

It was his own brother.

So, are there rules on which convict we should believe and which convict we should not believe?

 

[DeeJayH]

Funny how some people think a blow job is worse than lying to start a war! Funny how people can be so morally upright yet condone torture, loss of personal freedom and at the same time accept the runaway spending that has mortgaged all of our futures.

I'd always prefer a blow job to a war...Who wouldn't?

and yet your highlighted comment would be the funniest thing if it wasnt so tragic
and even funnier is how much traction this idiotic lie has gotten among the kool-aid drinkers