Hoot said:
I indirectly addressed Huang in my last post. It is your contention that the campaign funds raised by Huang, much of which has been returned, is somehow directly related to the technology transfer to the Chinese?
Is that your contention?
As I briefly said earlier...American companies wanted to use Chinese missiles to get their satellites into space as a cost saving measure. Do you honestly believe this could happen without the exchange of technology?
You're trying to say one thing proves the other, and I contend the two separate issues had nothing to do with one another..tech and campaign funds.
If you can prove these donations are a link to tech transfer, then provide some evidence.
Don't put words in my mouth. That's not polite. I didn't say that there is proof that the two things are connected, but there is very strong evidence. Clinton did huge favors for the PRC at the expense of our national security. The PRC donated millions of $ to Clinton's campaign. Huang was the conduit for BOTH of these things, and in both cases, Clinton gave him vital assistance.
I only see two possibilities here. Please tell me if there are other possibilities.
1.)Clinton sold secrets to a foreign power. If there was proof, he'd be spending life in prison. The only way to prove it would be to find a signed contract between Clinton and the PRC, which showed that the two things were connected. Noone's dumb enough to sign a contract like that. It doesn't exist. The world doesn't work that way. These secrets were far more sensitive than anything that Jonathan Pollard provided to Israel, and Israel is a much closer friend than the PRC, yet Pollard still rots in jail with a life sentence. Clinton refused to pardon him, even when it was one of Israel's demands when Clinton was trying to make peace between Israel and the PLO.
2.)Clinton honestly believed that it was good policy to provide the PRC with the technology required to make their rockets more reliable, because LORAL wanted to use them to send payloads into space. The $600k that Bernard Schwartz (head of LORAL) donated to his campaign had no effect on that decision. Nobody would ever accuse a Republican of corruption if he did a big favor for a big donor, even if it harmed national security. Clinton didn't know that that technology would also make the ICBMs, which were pointed at us, far more reliable and would also allow them to carry multiple warheads. Or possibly he did know that, but still believed that it was good policy to provide them with that technology.
When Huang wanted to work for the State Department, Clinton trusted him. It's not as if politicians have dishonest friends. Bill didn't think John was a security risk. After all, they were old friends. Bill merely thought that John was changing careers, and Bill wanted to help him with his career. After all, they were old friends. The whole thing was Huang's idea. The guy that thought Huang was a security risk was dead wrong in Bill's mind. Bill had no idea that John would walk across the street immediately after Top Secret CIA briefings and fax documents to the Lippo Group. The fact that another one of Bill's friends assisted in this is mere coincidence.
Once again, it was John's idea to work at the DNC. It wasn't Bill's idea. Bill thought that John was changing careers again, and once again, he wanted to help his old friend with his new career. Bill had no idea that John was going to collect money from the PRC. John duped him again. The fact that some of that money came directly from the branch of the PRC's military which controlled the ICBMs, was merely ANOTHER coincidence.
If #1 is correct, then Clinton is the most corrupt president in the history of the US. He's a traitor. The only way that it could be worse, is if we were at war. Then it would be treason. Even if it's not true, he might still be the most corrupt president in history, because of the multitude of other things.
If #2 is correct, then he's the dumbest president in history. How could he not know that that technology would make their ICBMs far more reliable and able to carry multiple warheads? If he did know it, then how could he possibly think that it was a good idea to provide them with that technology? How could Huang dupe him like that, not once, but twice?
Clinton was a moderate, just like the presidents before him and after him. His policies weren't all that bad IMHO. I think that he was a terrible president because of his corruption, not his policy. I see this issue as a corruption issue, not a policy issue. If I'm wrong, and if this wasn't corrupt, then I have to rate him as a terrible president based on policy alone. Some of his policies were ok, but this one is so horrible that it outweighs all of the others combined. The potential damage to our national security is enormous to say the least. How could anyone be so stupid?
