Kelzie said:
That was not socialism OR communism, and I know you're smarter than that galen. Both are based off of a democracy, which I think we can all agree the USSR did not have.
You're right, the USSR, China, Nazi-Germany, Cambodia, those are all just the end result of socialism or "communism."
They suceeded in putting the power of the WHOLE ECONOMY in the hands of the state. That power over food, shelter, clothing, money, medicine, water, steel, oil, coal, electricity, everything. Lord Acton warned us, POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!
All Socialist Germany did was put everything in nice order for Nazi Hilter. All Communist Russia did, was put everything in nice order for Stalin and Mao.
Devient evil people are attracted to power, expecially the power over life and death. What fool would imagine that in a world such as ours, where these people exist, we give them the tool to execute their evils.
A powerful interventionist state is simply dangling bait for the evil in our world.
America and the "west" choose the dangerous path of "the middle way." A dangerous, thread thin tightrope, that could fall to economic collapse or tyranny just as equally.
THAT'S why government is NECESSARY, government MADE IT THAT WAY. duh!
They chose policies, that if left uncontrolled, would lead to economic or social collapse, or be still strong enough to be wielded by a dictator.
ALL DEBTS MUST BE PAID. ALWAYS, in one way or another, they alway are. The hurried and impatient expansion of the US middle way, IS CREDIT BORROWED AGAINST THE FUTURE. The Future has this little problem of being UNKNOWN, and thereofr ensured no gaurantee in ability to pay back past debt, either in dollar terms, or other economic cost (pollution, disease, over expansion, insect infestation, water shortage, or what have you). IT WILL BE PAID. The ONLY way we can afford it now, without "borrowing" more, or stealing from others, is a return to REAL CAPITALISM. It's the only system efficient and productive enough to let up escape collapse or tyranny. One will turn this nation into wasteland, the other will choke it to death.
