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Amazing Specs Could Give Soldiers Super Sight

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Anyone who's played "Call of Duty" or other modern first-person-shooter games is familiar with on-screen displays of maps, troops positions and other vital information, which allow the player to navigate his or her surroundings without taking an eye off of the action.
But what if that kind of information were available to real soldiers in actual combat

nnovega's iOptik system, an innovative heads-up display (HUD) might deliver just that. According to a press release from the Bellevue, Washington-based company, a new system featuring "light-weight eyewear working with advanced contact lenses," would provide sharpened real-world vision while projecting an immersive display into the wearer's line of sight.

Innovega iOptik Contact Lenses Could Be Used For Super Soldier Vision (VIDEO)
 
Projecting images into someones eyes during combat. Let's think about that one for a second... Plus contacts aren't allowed in the field for a reason. That's the last thing you want in your eyes when you're in a place where regular hygiene is preformed with baby wipes, and some kind of water-like substance in a canteen cup. And what about Troops that can't/won't wear contacts? I'm calling it: This thing is a failure in the making.
 
I always thought the opening sequence to Lost In Space movie, where the guys contact lenses focus, was pretty cool.

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Projecting images into someones eyes during combat. Let's think about that one for a second... Plus contacts aren't allowed in the field for a reason. That's the last thing you want in your eyes when you're in a place where regular hygiene is preformed with baby wipes, and some kind of water-like substance in a canteen cup. And what about Troops that can't/won't wear contacts? I'm calling it: This thing is a failure in the making.

Contact lenses + small amount of dust in air = bad news
 
Projecting images into someones eyes during combat. Let's think about that one for a second... Plus contacts aren't allowed in the field for a reason. That's the last thing you want in your eyes when you're in a place where regular hygiene is preformed with baby wipes, and some kind of water-like substance in a canteen cup. And what about Troops that can't/won't wear contacts? I'm calling it: This thing is a failure in the making.

I imagine that only special ops troops will be using these, and will only use them during missions. You're spinning out WAY too much, not every foot soldier will have them and I seriously doubt they will be in 24/7. Likely, they will be in for just a few hours at a time. And who says they will be repeat wear anyway? With the amount of money the army throws around, they may be disposables.
 
I imagine that only special ops troops will be using these, and will only use them during missions. You're spinning out WAY too much, not every foot soldier will have them and I seriously doubt they will be in 24/7. Likely, they will be in for just a few hours at a time. And who says they will be repeat wear anyway? With the amount of money the army throws around, they may be disposables.

Not spinning anything, this is just a stupid idea. The first sentence of the article told me it's a failure in the making.
 
Loved the idea of getting an overhead view from a Predator. This would give the troop a huge advantage in trying to outflank the enemy.
 
People who think this is a terrible idea forget that the soldier of the future (AKA the actual soldiers who will be using such technology) is the child of today (even the children of tomorrow). These kids are going to be familiar with augmented reality being incorporated in their everyday lives.
 
Sometimes in my dreams I have to put contacts on that are the size of a silver dollar. It's uncomfortable even in a dream.
 
I imagine that only special ops troops will be using these, and will only use them during missions.

Wouldn't their missions take place in areas that can get pollution, smoke, dust or pollen?

I want to switch to contac lenses, but there is a lot of talk about contact lenes causing eye infection. Are soft contac lenses safe?
Another problem is exposure to pollution, smoke, dust or pollen. Lenses tend to collect even the smallest particles from the air. This causes discomfort and, quite often, inflammation of the cornea.



And who says they will be repeat wear anyway? With the amount of money the army throws around, they may be disposables.

Not if those lenses cost thousands of dollars to make,someone in office doesn't want troops wasting these things and they don't want the enemy to reverse engineer them.
 
Wouldn't their missions take place in areas that can get pollution, smoke, dust or pollen?

I want to switch to contac lenses, but there is a lot of talk about contact lenes causing eye infection. Are soft contac lenses safe?
Another problem is exposure to pollution, smoke, dust or pollen. Lenses tend to collect even the smallest particles from the air. This causes discomfort and, quite often, inflammation of the cornea.

And those same things can affect eyes without contacts. So I would imagine the combat version would include goggles like we see soldiers wearing now. This would seal the eyes off from those irritants.
 
People who think this is a terrible idea forget that the soldier of the future (AKA the actual soldiers who will be using such technology) is the child of today (even the children of tomorrow). These kids are going to be familiar with augmented reality being incorporated in their everyday lives.

I grew up playing video games too. Played a lot of modern warfare when I was in. Still wouldn't use this crap, just like I refused to use NVG's, red dot reflex sights, or GPS. They're good in theory, but in practice, all the high tech stuff does is overcomplicate simple things, fail when you need it most, and add more weight to an already overbearing packing list.
 
Projecting images into someones eyes during combat. Let's think about that one for a second... Plus contacts aren't allowed in the field for a reason. That's the last thing you want in your eyes when you're in a place where regular hygiene is preformed with baby wipes, and some kind of water-like substance in a canteen cup. And what about Troops that can't/won't wear contacts? I'm calling it: This thing is a failure in the making.

Every now and again, the propoganda machines tell us about the Latest And Greatest Weapon Evah!!

Remember the Daisy Cutter bombs?
 
Every now and again, the propoganda machines tell us about the Latest And Greatest Weapon Evah!!

Remember the Daisy Cutter bombs?

Yeah. I also remember the MOAB, supposedly the most awesome conventional bomb ever constructed. 15 bought during a time of war, 0 used.
 
The future is here baby.
 
The lens can also interface and augment real world vision.

Popular choices turn "peace sign" tree huggers into brown people with AK's and towels on their heads.

Fleeing refugees into grizzled bloodthirsty pirates.

Anti-national Mexicans into space invaders.

Politicians or high value friendlies into their favorite celebrity.

Makes "occuTards" magically disapear. (because they aren't going away.)
 
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The lens can also interface and augment real world vision.

Popular choices turn "peace sign" tree huggers into brown people with AK's and towels on their heads.

Fleeing refugees into grizzled bloodthirsty pirates.

Anti-national Mexicans into space invaders.

Politicians or high value friendlies into their favorite celebrity.

Makes "occuTards" magically disapear. (because they aren't going away.)

Doesn't it make more sense to make politicians, "into grizzled bloodthirsty pirates." It's closer to the truth anyway.
 
Doesn't it make more sense to make politicians, "into grizzled bloodthirsty pirates." It's closer to the truth anyway.

Not when politicians have the military on a leash as their personal world police. When Billy Mays (or your favorite celeb) tells you to invade Afghanistan. You invade Afghanistan. When Sarah Palin says "Lets go get them!" everyone just shrugs. I feel i have over explained my little joke...

But, yes. I agree with your humor.
 
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I grew up playing video games too. Played a lot of modern warfare when I was in. Still wouldn't use this crap, just like I refused to use NVG's, red dot reflex sights, or GPS. They're good in theory, but in practice, all the high tech stuff does is overcomplicate simple things, fail when you need it most, and add more weight to an already overbearing packing list.

This isn't video games, it's augmented reality. A totally different thing.
 
And mankind has been waging war without it just fine since forever.

That same "logic" could have been used at some point to argue against guns, bombs, tanks, planes, missiles, laser targeting systems, night vision goggles, cameras, satellites, radios, grenades, warships, heavy cavalry, siege engines, chariots, swords, shields, body armor, and even horses.

It's not a valid argument.
 
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No, like a bunch of electronic junk that won't make it passed field tests, which cost the Army 10 years, and 500 million dollars to discover that it was garbage. Just like this piece of crap will, should some general get a boner over it.

You think a single piece of a equipment is comparable to an entire system of equipment? Why?
 
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