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After this, America really needs to talk about wages and worker protections

Free trade cuts both ways - since it allows lower US wage earners to purchase more (less expensive) imported goods.
It works out for those who make good wages. For those who lose their jobs or are forced into poor paying jobs, they're losers. We can't look at these things only in aggregate. In fact we should be MORE concerned for those who aren't asc well off.
 
Ah, so you admit that they ARE living paycheck to paycheck. In other words, they ARE getting living wages already.
Barely scraping by may be your definition of a living wage, but that wouldn't be a useful definition.
 
It works out for those who make good wages. For those who lose their jobs or are forced into poor paying jobs, they're losers. We can't look at these things only in aggregate. In fact we should be MORE concerned for those who aren't asc well off.

OK, then make the MW $50/hour and be done with poverty. ;)
 
He is actually correct. A small (mom & pop) retail store pays more per item of inventory sold than a larger (like Walmart or Home Depot) store does because the "big box" stores get significant volume discounts from manufacturers and shippers. The main way that a smaller retailer can (price) compete with a larger retailer is by reducing their labor costs to try to offset their higher inventory costs. That is (one reason) why larger retailers can pay their "lower skilled" workers better than smaller retailers can.
Yet again, we cannot look at averages when doing this kind of analysis. Yes there are some small businesses that pay pitiful wages. I'm thinking of things like farms, gardeners, maids. There are others who pay very good wages.
 
It is noted that many companies looking for a bailout just saw years of record profits and with their tax cuts, engaged in huge stock buybacks that enriched bosses and stockholders.

Corporations used took exist for more than profit margins and stockholders benefits. This change has contributed a great deal to wealth inequality in this country.

Now we are going to give money to Boeing, who is suffering because they make planes that break and fall out of the sky.

The work we need to do to correct our economic problems should be obvious.

i have zero issue with Boeing going bankrupt....none

that is 100k union workers without a job tomorrow, and Airbus then being the dominant player in the field

it also makes my other defense stocks worth more

i am afraid the progressives/liberals/democrats may not agree with that decision though

the businesses that NEED the bailouts are the restaurants and mom and pop operations that employ 10, 20, 50 people nationwide that were ORDERED to shut their doors....they are the ones that are deserving of a break here
 
False you answered your own question. Here is the question I asked?
So how much are you willing to pay for a big mac at the drive thru?*
I'm fine paying 25% more if all McDonald's workers are making double.
 
i have zero issue with Boeing going bankrupt....none

that is 100k union workers without a job tomorrow, and Airbus then being the dominant player in the field

it also makes my other defense stocks worth more

i am afraid the progressives/liberals/democrats may not agree with that decision though

the businesses that NEED the bailouts are the restaurants and mom and pop operations that employ 10, 20, 50 people nationwide that were ORDERED to shut their doors....they are the ones that are deserving of a break here
Wait, you're fine with 100k Americans going from good salaries to 0? I'd assume not. What should we do with them?
 
Wait, you're fine with 100k Americans going from good salaries to 0? I'd assume not. What should we do with them?

not my problem.....

and as you and many others have said.....**** the big corporations.....

i care about the little businesses....PERIOD.....anything under 5k employees
 
Lol, you know I don't think that would work.

Exactly, because then no job which generates less than about $65/hour in revenue would be available. That is the problem with a high MW - any job that does not create enough revenue to support it must be eliminated.
 
I hope the country's workers pay attention during all this. For years, millions of people have been told they're just not worth fifteen measly bucks an hour. Now, suddenly, they're "essential employees." They're keeping grocery shelves stocked, keeping gas stations running, working drive-throughs and restaurant takeout counters. Obsessively cleaning and scrubbing all these establishments you insist that you just MUST walk around. All to keep you safe, fed, and happy. Placing themselves at greater risk to do it, by the way. That breaks down, civilization only lasts as long as the food in your pantry.

But right wingers in particular are steadfast in their beliefs that the free market should be left to provide. Well, it hasn't. These essential people are underpaid, they don't have enough PTO to handle situations like this, so they have no choice but to work. America is alone in the first world in lacking such basic worker protections as paid sick leave, maternity leave, etc. We lack the safety net of universal healthcare, many of these people getting laid off are losing health insurance. Nice time for that, eh? (and, let it be noted that I am absolutely not giving a pass to the lukewarm, useless "moderate" Democrats)

Amazon is asking the public for donations to fund extra sick leave for their employees. A trillion dollar company. They paid negative federal income taxes in 2018. The company is owned by the wealthiest man on the entire planet.

Young people in particular? You need to remember this in November. And every November. You're essential. This country falls apart without you. You deserve better. Make them do better. Or get the guillotines out. It's what the founding fathers would have wanted.

And don't get me started on the sacrifices that medical workers are being asked to make. How many of them are going to die because we just can't let the Dow ****ing Jones drop too low?

Well, as the result of this "crisis", I'm being paid even though I'm not working with my school dist. job(state)

Man, talk about worker protections?

It's amazing what you can do on the tax payers dime isn't it?
 
not my problem.....

and as you and many others have said.....**** the big corporations.....

i care about the little businesses....PERIOD.....anything under 5k employees
I didn't say the business. I said the workers. You're fine with them losing good paying jobs? F them?
 
Exactly, because then no job which generates less than about $65/hour in revenue would be available. That is the problem with a high MW - any job that does not create enough revenue to support it must be eliminated.
Because I don't support tackling this problem through minimum wage doesn't mean that I think everything is fine.
 
Most small mom and pop businesses can't afford to pay $15 per hour. That's what the country is mostly made of. That's what the left don't understand. They would rather have all small businesses go out of business, leaving only Walmart and the big ones left as a total monopoly that the left then want to control and make the demands they want to make. In other words, total socialism. Only one company in each industry, totally run or supervised by the government.

The Right always talks about mom and pop business, yet all of the right policies benefit the giant corporations over them.....
 
I didn't say the business. I said the workers. You're fine with them losing good paying jobs? F them?

you guys are the ones who want to bankrupt the companies....

that is the end result....

is there another result if Boeing goes BK?
 
On average Americans are wealthier than ever before. So we can just ignore that 40% of families are living paycheck to paycheck?

Moving the goalposts? How unexpected. ;)

Wealthy folks have absolutely nothing to do with the MW or the pay differential between larger and smaller employers for worker pay of similar (if not identical) positions (job duties).
 
you guys are the ones who want to bankrupt the companies....

that is the end result....

is there another result if Boeing goes BK?
I want Boeing to go bankrupt? When did I say that?
 
Moving the goalposts? How unexpected. ;)

Wealthy folks have absolutely nothing to do with the MW or the pay differential between larger and smaller employers for worker pay of similar (if not identical) positions (job duties).
We're talking past each other. A gain for the average isn't necessarily okay if a large percentage of Americans are losing. This is a tradeoff, and we can't ignore effects to the left side of a distribution.
 
Because I don't support tackling this problem through minimum wage doesn't mean that I think everything is fine.

What are you supporting (proposing) as a solution to low wage positions (jobs)?
 
What are you supporting (proposing) as a solution?
I'd deal with it by addressing the problems you mentioned. Moratorium on immigration. No more trade with countries that have wages far below what we pay. Make companies pay for the benefits that the state is giving their workers.
 
I want Boeing to go bankrupt? When did I say that?

did i particularly say YOU

take a look at my posts

i specifically said democrats/progressives/liberals on this site

if the shoe fits, wear it.....if not, i guess you can ignore that comment
 
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