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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?
 

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?

Bahaha….sex and drugs would end if you keep the Mexicans out, huh... Lemme know how that works, k? Then explain how you're gonna get rid of rock 'n' roll...
 

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?

First, it's impossible to build a wall that blocks the entire border. Second, human beings are very resourceful. They can get around walls.

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?

No, it absolutely would not do any such thing due to this thing called the “ocean”.

Maybe you’ve heard of it.

Then again, given the stupidity of your premise(Democrats support cartels and sex trafficking durrrrrr) you may not have.
 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.
 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.

It is a waste of tax payer dollars.
 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.

They are against anything Trump!! I'm not saying the wall would solve all our problems, but it would help.
 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.

It wont work as promised? And as such, is a waste of $?
 

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?

Psssst....

 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.

They've made it past grade 6, and thus understand what a ladder is, and how it can be used. (Please see post #10)
 

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?
Slows down voter registration. :lamo
 

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Doing what most walls do - keep unwanted visitors out. Probably not completely but probably a large reduction.
 

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They've made it past grade 6, and thus understand what a ladder is, and how it can be used. (Please see post #10)

Yup, they carry ladders with them all the time.
 

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First, it's impossible to build a wall that blocks the entire border. Second, human beings are very resourceful. They can get around walls.

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Not going to be digging too many tunnels in the middle of the Arizona desert. And, yeah, having every foot of border covered by walls is unrealistic, but it'd be a whole lot easier to patrol open stretches if they weren't
hundreds of miles wide.
 

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It wont work as promised? And as such, is a waste of $?
What exactly do you think the "promise" of the wall is? If you're expecting to cut illegal immigration to zero, you're going to be disappointed, but if you expect a significant reduction you'll be in luck.
 

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No, it absolutely would not do any such thing due to this thing called the “ocean”.

Maybe you’ve heard of it.

Then again, given the stupidity of your premise(Democrats support cartels and sex trafficking durrrrrr) you may not have.
And thousands of illegals are just going to jump into the ocean and swim across?
 

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What exactly do you think the "promise" of the wall is? If you're expecting to cut illegal immigration to zero, you're going to be disappointed, but if you expect a significant reduction you'll be in luck.

Really? How much reduction? Worth $5 billion?

How about applying $1 billion to finding and punishing employers that hire the illegal laborers?

I've seen nothing that justifies spending that $ in terms of effectiveness.
 

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Doing what most walls do - keep unwanted visitors out. Probably not completely but probably a large reduction.

Walls only keep out children and adults who weren't seriously planning on coming in anyway. They function primarily as a visual barrier, not a physical one. I would be willing to bet that you personally could defeat any wall in the United States with less than 10 minutes of planning.
 

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Yup, they carry ladders with them all the time.

There are, in fact, thousands of ladders already stored on the Mexican side of the border for the walls and fencing that already exist there.
 

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Walls only keep out children and adults who weren't seriously planning on coming in anyway. They function primarily as a visual barrier, not a physical one. I would be willing to bet that you personally could defeat any wall in the United States with less than 20 minutes of planning.
LOL, sure, fine, whatever you say. Let's see how fast you can get a crowd of men women and children over a 40' wall in the middle of the Arizona desert without getting detected. Right now, the coyotes just disable the surveillance cameras and wall across in a couple of minutes.
 

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There must be some logical reason that democrats are against the wall. Any suggestions.

It's of no practical use. It cuts farmers and recreational users off from the Rio Grande. It leaves enormous areas of "no-mans-land" between it and the actual border. It's simply stupid.
 

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A good border wall would devastate drug and the sex trafficking business. Makes you wonder why democrats are so against it. Do they have a vested interest in these crimes?

They have a vested interest in letting as many illegals cross as possible. What's a few criminals here and there?
 

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LOL, sure, fine, whatever you say. Let's see how fast you can get a crowd of men women and children over a 40' wall in the middle of the Arizona desert without getting detected. Right now, the coyotes just disable the surveillance cameras and wall across in a couple of minutes.

I thought the point of the OP was that the wall would 'devastate the drug and sex trafficking business.' You're talking about crowds of women and children. Are you really worried about drugs and gang members, or is the purpose of the wall just to keep out the most harmless and vulnerable immigrants?

To address your point: Setting up a 50' aluminum extension ladder on the Mexican side, putting a carpet over razor wire, and dropping a 50' extension ladder on the American side would probably take all of 5 to 7 minutes, and an entire caravan could then cross with at worst a 10 minute delay, assuming only two ladders are used. Also keep in mind that ladders and carpets are already everywhere along the Mexican border. How many more ladders and carpets would there be if a 40' wall was built?

The decrease in illegal immigration that would result would be the very definition of the word 'minuscule,' and the cost to gain ratio for construction and maintenance would be ridiculous.
 
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