57 Buffalo officers resign from Emergency Response Team after two cops suspended

[stevecanuck]

Bottom line - the shove was unnecessary. It wasn't a really violent shove, and at 70 I think I could keep on my feet if that were me, but that guy was 75. I'm sure the cop who pushed him was surprised at the fall the old guy took, but still, he should have escorted him back rather than shove him. They're not making any friends applying that kind of unnecessary force.

 

[JANFU]

accept every one of the 57 emergency response team resignations
strip the 57 of the special perks enjoyed as a response team member
if there is a need to replace police officers who decline to be on the response team with new hires, then terminate from the last hired first and continue policing the city

Transfer all to a special precinct or whatever- back on the line they go

Disciplinary action taken with all 57 officers as this could be an illegal work stoppage ( unsure of the correct terms)

Change the ffn contract to stop this chicken**** behavior by Police

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Bottom line - the shove was unnecessary. It wasn't a really violent shove, and at 70 I think I could keep on my feet if that were me, but that guy was 75. I'm sure the cop who pushed him was surprised at the fall the old guy took, but still, he should have escorted him back rather than shove him. They're not making any friends applying that kind of unnecessary force.

The shove as you say was not hard, the biggest fault is not stopping to check and assist the man. Really bad optics

 

[Robertinfremont]

57 Buffalo officers resign from Emergency Response Team after two cops suspended | TheHill

Every last cop on that squad resigned. (from the squad, not the police force) They didn't resign in outrage over the treatment of that old man. They resigned because those two ****head cops got disciplined for their actions. ALL OF THEM. Every cop on the squad.

I think a cop who quits a squad for a reason like this is a bad cop. Quitting in solidarity with brutality makes you a bad cop. If most cops are good cops, what insane coincidence put fifty-seven bad cops into the same unit?

We keep trying to tell ourselves this is just a few bad apples. I think we need to accept the fact that this just isn't true. The good cops have been either intimidate into silence or driven off the force entirely.

I am shocked you supported the white man who was shoved onto his back.

 

[stevecanuck]

The shove as you say was not hard, the biggest fault is not stopping to check and assist the man. Really bad optics

Damn! I was going to say that, but forgot to. Like I said, 70. That was actually the part that concerned me the most. What part of 'bleeding from the ear' makes a cop simply walk past?

 

[Deuce]

I am shocked you supported the white man who was shoved onto his back.

Probably because you read too many posts on Stormfront.

 

[Moonglow]

I am glad the pigs ran from their crimes..Cowards..

 

[poweRob]

And is in serious condition in the hospital.

The part that gets me is that one cop tried to kneel down and help but another cop pulled him away.

 

[Airyaman]

Did you see the video? The officers were ordered to clear the area. They were moving forward in a line to do so. The guy wanted to chat while they were trying to move the line, and they pushed him in the direction he was supposed to go. It wasn't even a hard push. The man tripped as he stepped backwards and fell. They didn't shove him or knock him to the ground on purpose. They weren't trying to hurt him. It was a tragic accident.

I don't blame the group for resigning. The situation is tough enough, and police are not being supported by their cities. They are being given mixed instructions, and have to allow people to spit and throw objects at them. They're trying to do an impossible job.

Here's the rub: I get that the shove was not that hard. The little shove caused the fella to lose his balance and fall back and strike his head. What came after is the part where they should have been suspended. "Protect and serve"...every single one of them ignored the bleeding old man on the sidewalk until someone in fatigues stepped in. Since this person was in fatigues, we can assume he was not part of the police force, perhaps National Guard. It was a total dereliction of duty to pass the injured man by like he was common street debris instead of a human being in a potentially life-threatening situation.

 

[HumblePi]

It's obvious that the police systems I've seen are corrupt. Officers within the unit that don't commit illegal actions do know of officers who do, and don't turn them in. Until the police forces "police" themselves, they are part of the problem.

One of the problems is that the police have a very strong union, the Police Federation, and it's controlled entirely by serving police officers and it is not affiliated or associated with any bodies outside the service and is completely independent of political parties. So there you go. We've heard it a dozen times over the past week, "an internal investigation will be conducted". Okay, that's like saying, 'we are investigating ourselves'. Wouldn't you be found innocent of any charges if you were investigating yourself?

 

[poweRob]

You're right. Not all cops are bad.

But it's time to start admitting to ourselves that most of them are.

I'm not going to go there either. There is some seriously bad cops and a seriously bad systemic issues. That is as far as I will go. I'm not breaking out the blanket claims.

 

[poweRob]

I am shocked you supported the white man who was shoved onto his back.

Sounds like an admission that you wouldn't if he were black. How unshocking.

 

[JANFU]

That video is horrific and they're lucky that 75 yr old man isnt dead. He is in serious condition.

If they resigned after seeing that video, let them all go. They dont belong having any authority over the public.

The 2 cops were suspended (not yet fired)...there will be/has been an investigation. To resign before that? Just BS, not solidarity.

Man was no threat
Clearly seen to be bleeding from his ear- that is serious

Start providing medical care

So many BS reasons to support these Officers, well beyond disgusting

And I am sure there are at least 57 Officers doing crap duties- there they go

 

[Deuce]

Here's the rub: I get that the shove was not that hard. The little shove caused the fella to lose his balance and fall back and strike his head. What came after is the part where they should have been suspended. "Protect and serve"...every single one of them ignored the bleeding old man on the sidewalk until someone in fatigues stepped in. Since this person was in fatigues, we can assume he was not part of the police force, perhaps National Guard. It was a total dereliction of duty to pass the injured man by like he was common street debris instead of a human being in a potentially life-threatening situation.

Saw a twitter post that put it well. These are not peace officers. Tear gas and rubber bullets don't bring peace. They don't want peace, they want submission.

 

[Deuce]

I'm not going to go there either. There is some seriously bad cops and a seriously bad systemic issues. That is as far as I will go. I'm not breaking out the blanket claims.

I am breaking out the "blanket" claims. Which are explicitly not blanket claims, that was in the first line of the post you quoted. I said most, not all.

But what the hell am I supposed to conclude when every cop in that unit resigned from it in solidarity with these monsters? If less than half the cops are bad cops, what bizarre statistical fluke put 57 bad cops in the same unit at the same time?

 

[Carjosse]

They should get HR busy printing off dismissals.

 

[Crosscheck]

The part that gets me is that one cop tried to kneel down and help but another cop pulled him away.

That is the troubling part that they just stepped around him like a piece of trash on the street. I don't know if the guy was confused or what but he was not shouting at the police.

I don't think I could just step over an elderly man bleeding on the street. I just wasn't brought up like that.

I have performed mouth to mouth CPR on a complete stranger at Yellowstone Park. I have pulled people out a vehicle involved in a head on collision so they wouldn't have to see the deceased.

You just react when you see a fellow human suffering.

 

[poweRob]

I am breaking out the "blanket" claims. Which are explicitly not blanket claims, that was in the first line of the post you quoted. I said most, not all.

But what the hell am I supposed to conclude when every cop in that unit resigned from it in solidarity with these monsters? If less than half the cops are bad cops, what bizarre statistical fluke put 57 bad cops in the same unit at the same time?

I agree that these 57 are in the wrong. These 57 aren't "most cops". And "MOst Cops" is a big blanket.

 

[Aberro]

Enjoy your wife being raped, mother raped, daughter raped, and no cops to call soy boy.
I don’t blame them, I’d quit too.

I hope You own guns, the police are the only thing between your daughter/mother/wife and rape.

Democrats don’t own guns.

 

[trouble13]

57 Buffalo officers resign from Emergency Response Team after two cops suspended | TheHill

Every last cop on that squad resigned. (from the squad, not the police force) They didn't resign in outrage over the treatment of that old man. They resigned because those two ****head cops got disciplined for their actions. ALL OF THEM. Every cop on the squad.

I think a cop who quits a squad for a reason like this is a bad cop. Quitting in solidarity with brutality makes you a bad cop. If most cops are good cops, what insane coincidence put fifty-seven bad cops into the same unit?

We keep trying to tell ourselves this is just a few bad apples. I think we need to accept the fact that this just isn't true. The good cops have been either intimidate into silence or driven off the force entirely.

You should be celebrating this. Theres no longer a riot squad in buffalo. Thats a step in the direction you all want, right?

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[Deuce]

You should be celebrating this. Theres no longer a riot squad in buffalo. Thats a step in the direction you all want, right?

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You think it fits my goals for an entire unit to be filled with bad cops who support brutalizing citizens?

They're still cops, dude. They're still gonna be on the streets.

 

[dcsports]

This is not acceptable. Start at 1:04 in the video:



He's bleeding after striking the concrete hard, and they just walk past, not helping him. Hospitalized in serious condition.

Those resigning in protest should be fired, since they support police actions that lead to hospitalization and possible death.

If you look again, he started to stop, and the supervisor told him to keep moving while he radioed for help. They didn't abandon the man.

 

[poweRob]

You should be celebrating this. Theres no longer a riot squad in buffalo. Thats a step in the direction you all want, right?

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I wanna play.

You seem to be celebrating cops putting an old man in serious medical condition. Authoritarian police force is a step in the right direction you all want, right? Must be a great day for you.

 

[SCrider]

Saw a twitter post that put it well. These are not peace officers. Tear gas and rubber bullets don't bring peace. They don't want peace, they want submission.

That's exactly what Trump wants out of this. He wants dominion on the battle field and his reckless minions cheer it on. Of course the battle field here is American streets yet these "patriots" can't see that this is wrong.

 

[dcsports]

Here's the rub: I get that the shove was not that hard. The little shove caused the fella to lose his balance and fall back and strike his head. What came after is the part where they should have been suspended. "Protect and serve"...every single one of them ignored the bleeding old man on the sidewalk until someone in fatigues stepped in. Since this person was in fatigues, we can assume he was not part of the police force, perhaps National Guard. It was a total dereliction of duty to pass the injured man by like he was common street debris instead of a human being in a potentially life-threatening situation.

They didn't ignore him. You see the officer begin to stop. A supervisor stepped in to help, and told the other officers to keep moving.