5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in California

Connery · Apr 2, 2012

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This school is very small. "The nonprofit Christian school -- where at least five people were shot to death Monday -- was founded in 2004 and is affiliated with the Praise God Korean Church in Oakland and Shepherd University of San Francisco. Oikos' website listed more than four dozen faculty members in music, religion, Asian medicine and nursing. The university was licensed by the state's Bureau of Private Postsecondary Education, which regulates for-profit and vocational schools, on May 13, 2011, said bureau spokesman Russ Heimerich. The school also is accredited by the state Board of Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technician"
Oikos University attracts nursing, music, religion students - San Jose Mercury News

I am curious as to the relationship between the shooter and the school.

MaggieD · Apr 2, 2012

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Redress said:
So you still have yet to comment on the story, and still continue to use the tragedy to score political points. Here, I will give you a comment, and show you what should be done at this point:

This situation is a tragedy, my hearts go out to the family and friends of those affected.

Too late. I had respect for you -- and for our differences. But your attack on me personally for posting breaking news and asking why Congress isn't holding hearings just shows the disrespect you have for me. I am so surprised. Thank you and good bye.

Enola · Apr 2, 2012

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I'm wondering what the connection is, too. The shooter went to that school to kill for a reason, warped though it is.
I hate commenting on just breaking news because so much about it is still unknown.

My prayers and sympathies for the families.

Medusa · Apr 2, 2012

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who gave a gun to that guy?:shoot

Erod · Apr 2, 2012

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Redress said:
Good thing you guys are above using a ****ing tragedy to score cheap ****ing political points. It's good to know there are no depths some people will not ****ing stoop to. Keep up the good work.

Unfortunately, and unbelievably, it was a legitimate question.

Obama is like Joffrey in Game of Thrones. You never know what he's going to do next because he's just a dumb, inexperienced child.

Enola · Apr 2, 2012

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Sigh. This has nothing to do with Obama. This is a crazy fruitloop who went on a rampage and killed 5 people.
Is this not the thread to discuss what IS known instead of making it all about obama or dems or repubs or innies or outties or who says what on the news to whom?

I'll be back when more info is known and the topic is back on the topic.:doh

Ockham · Apr 2, 2012

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Medusa said:
who gave a gun to that guy?:shoot

He may have purchased it legally or it may be illegally obtained. We have yet to see.

Hatuey · Apr 2, 2012

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muciti said:
Tell yourself what you want to but those hearings were about Trayvon Martin and giving into the mob that has been pushing it.

So even though they weren't, you claim they were. Okay, the Watergate hearings weren't on Watergate but on Gerald Ford as a replacement for Nixon. :shrug:

Medusa · Apr 2, 2012

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Ockham said:
He may have purchased it legally or it may be illegally obtained. We have yet to see.

if he bought it legally it is the real problem ,this world is turning into a gun paradise

Ockham · Apr 2, 2012

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Medusa said:
if he bought it legally it is the real problem ,this world is turning into a gun paradise

Then everyone should have a gun.

Boo Radley · Apr 2, 2012

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MaggieD said:
You have a very low opinion of me, Redress. I guess I can't help that. But sure wish you'd keep it to yourself. If you don't want to comment on the Breaking News, may I suggest you, ah, move along?

I actully have a high opinion of you, but I don't think this event deserves this kind of commentary yet. I further believe a lot of people will be trying to use this tradegy to further their political position, be in guns on campus or anti gun legislation.

Thrilla · Apr 2, 2012

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Medusa said:
if he bought it legally it is the real problem ,this world is turning into a gun paradise

not yet, but one could hope.

Enola · Apr 2, 2012

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I just read that it is SIX people dead?

EDIT: When I posted this, it said SIX. NOW it says SEVEN. Which is why it's too soon to know anything.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/oikos-university-shooting_n_1397572.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D148594

OAKLAND, Calif. — Police in California say seven people have died in a shooting attack at a Christian university.

Spokeswoman Cynthia Perkins confirmed the death count Monday afternoon. She did not release any other details about the victims, but said city officials planned a news conference later.

Earlier in the day, police detained a person believed to be responsible in the shooting at Oikos University. They have not released the person's identity or discussed a possible motive.

A gunman opened fire at a Christian university in California Monday, killing at least six people and wounding three more, authorities said. Police say they have a suspect in custody.

The shooting erupted around midmorning at Oikos University in Oakland and left six dead, according to City Council President Larry Reid, who said he was told the count by the police chief.

Police believe the shooter acted alone, Reid said. Authorities have not discussed a possible motive.

The suspect was taken into custody in the neighboring city of Alameda, according to law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information.

Officer Johnna Watson did not give any other details about the suspect.

Authorities earlier described him as a heavyset Korean man in his 40s wearing khaki clothing.

"I can confirm that we do have one person who has been detained that we believe is possibly responsible for this shooting," Watson said.

KTVU-TV reported that the shooter was a student and opened fire in a classroom.

Earlier, television news footage showed a chaotic scene as heavily armed officers swarmed into the building, located in a large industrial park near the Oakland airport.

The footage also showed bloodied victims on stretchers being loaded into ambulances. Several bodies covered in sheets were laid out on a patch of grass.

Pastor Jong Kim, who founded the school about 10 years ago, told the Oakland Tribune that the shooter was a nursing student who was no longer enrolled. He did not know if the shooter was expelled or dropped out.

Kim said he heard about 30 rapid-fire gunshots in the building.

"I stayed in my office," he said.

Deborah Lee, who was in an English language class, said she heard five to six gunshots at first. "The teacher said, `Run,' and we run," she said. "I was OK, because I know God protects me. I'm not afraid of him."

Angie Johnson told the San Francisco Chronicle that she saw a young woman leave the building with blood coming from her arm and crying: "I've been shot. I've been shot."

The injured woman said the shooter was a man in her nursing class who got up and shot one person at point-blank range in the chest before spraying the room with bullets, Johnson said.

"She said he looked crazy all the time," she said the victim told her, "but they never knew how far he would go."

According to its website, Oikos University offers studies in theology, music, nursing and Asian medicine. A telephone message left on the university's voicemail was not immediately returned.

SmokeAndMirrors · Apr 2, 2012

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MaggieD said:
Oh, now we have the pile-ons.

COMMENT ON THE FREAKIN' THREAD OR GO AWAY, DAMN IT.

I cannot believe that after over a year on this board anyone would think I'd post this thread as bait. Or to exploit dead students, for God's sake. You few make me sick. Especially Redress.

Um, Maggie?

They ARE commenting on the thread.

Your only commentary in your OP was a potshot at Congress. Therefore, that is what YOU made the thread about. Whether you meant to or not, that is basically exploiting a tragedy.

You have said virtually nothing about the event itself. I hardly think it's out of line for people to debate you on the grounds that YOU set up in your OP.

Furthermore, this happened TODAY. What do you mean where are the hearings? The dust hasn't even cleared yet. We don't even know what caused the shooting, who the person was, or anything.

And finally, you saying there were hearings on Trayvon Martin is false and misleading, as someone else has already pointed out. It was a hearing on racial profiling.

Whether you intended to or not, you are indeed exploiting a tragedy based on disingenuous or mistaken premises and ridiculously unrealistic expectations.

That is what YOU made the thread about. You shouldn't complain when someone addresses you based on the premise YOU set up.

MaggieD · Apr 2, 2012

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Boo Radley said:
I actully have a high opinion of you, but I don't think this event deserves this kind of commentary yet. I further believe a lot of people will be trying to use this tradegy to further their political position, be in guns on campus or anti gun legislation.

Boo! I started a Breaking News thread. I agree with you that a lot of people will use this tragedy to further their anti-gun rants and allll the rest. But Congressional hearings...I mean why haven't they been done before? What more needs to happen to kids before Congress discusses those like they discuss steroids in baseball?

(And thank you. Right back atcha.)

Hicup · Apr 2, 2012

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Redress said:
So becasue different situations are different, you think it is ok to exploit a tragedy for political gain? Very ****ing nice.

Well at least you recognize that it is a "gain" because the OP was/is absolutely correct in pointing it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it pisses you off that you can't deny it.

We conservatives call that, "liberal heads exploding" for liberals such as yourself, Redress.. Why it explodes is that you know your double standard, or hyporcrisy is on full display, but you JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF anyway..

We, as in me and people like me actually get a tingle in our bellies when it happens. The fact that it happens daily on this site is why we keep coming back, which in itself might be a mental disorder..

Tim-

MaggieD · Apr 2, 2012

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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Um, Maggie?

They ARE commenting on the thread.

Your only commentary in your OP was a potshot at Congress. Therefore, that is what YOU made the thread about. Whether you meant to or not, that is basically exploiting a tragedy.

You have said virtually nothing about the event itself. I hardly think it's out of line for people to debate you on the grounds that YOU set up in your OP.

Furthermore, this happened TODAY. What do you mean where are the hearings? The dust hasn't even cleared yet. We don't even know what caused the shooting, who the person was, or anything.

And finally, you saying there were hearings on Trayvon Martin is false and misleading, as someone else has already pointed out. It was a hearing on racial profiling.

Whether you intended to or not, you are indeed exploiting a tragedy based on disingenuous or mistaken premises and ridiculously unrealistic expectations.

That is what YOU made the thread about. You shouldn't complain when someone addresses you based on the premise YOU set up.

But I do think Congress should get involved. If they can get involved in steroids in baseball, if they can hold hearings about school bullying, they can hold hearings on what might be done to prevent kids getting killed in the classroom.

I guess everyone just thinks I should have posted, "What a shame."

lizzie · Apr 2, 2012

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Redress said:
Good thing you guys are above using a ****ing tragedy to score cheap ****ing political points. It's good to know there are no depths some people will not ****ing stoop to. Keep up the good work.

Sounds like a good description of the president, and God knows he's the only one who actually benefits from scoring cheap ****ing political points. Certainly not a bunch of peeps on a political discussion forum. Save your rage for where it counts.

soccerboy22 · Apr 2, 2012

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It is a shame it is to know about that a school was attacked like this.

Harshaw · Apr 2, 2012

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MaggieD said:
Where are the Congressional hearings on this violence?

For something that just happened today?

Enola · Apr 2, 2012

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Anyway...........seems the guy was a student there but was no longer. He was peeved about soemthing, that's for sure. Remains to be seen what made him do this. One person said he was always "crazy acting".

Medusa · Apr 2, 2012

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Ockham said:
Then everyone should have a gun.

yes everybody should have it so that everybody can easily kill each other

Kreton · Apr 2, 2012

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MaggieD said:
But I do think Congress should get involved. If they can get involved in steroids in baseball, if they can hold hearings about school bullying, they can hold hearings on what might be done to prevent kids getting killed in the classroom.

I guess everyone just thinks I should have posted, "What a shame."

Once people assume that you are attacking their party or their president they are going directly into fight mode. It doesnt matter what you would have said. You have "conservative" in your lean so any reference to obama, politics, congress ect is automatically an attack and they must fight. (libs dont get your panties in too much of a bunch conservatives do it to you too). MOST people can't accept that their party can be wrong in any way or the other side might be right once in a while.

Redress · Apr 2, 2012

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MaggieD said:
Boo! I started a Breaking News thread. I agree with you that a lot of people will use this tragedy to further their anti-gun rants and allll the rest. But Congressional hearings...I mean why haven't they been done before? What more needs to happen to kids before Congress discusses those like they discuss steroids in baseball?

(And thank you. Right back atcha.)

School shootings are surprisingly rare. However, they make headlines beause of the nature of the victims(young people) and the fact they are multiple deaths. It's still really safe in school however.

MaggieD · Apr 2, 2012

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Harshaw said:
For something that just happened today?

Yes. They should immediately convene. /sarcasm

Come on! How many mass school shootings does it take, Harshaw?

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