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‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects

Enabling someone to do wrong is not having a heart. The left chooses to ignore the law and claim they are being kind, they are enabling wrong doing. That's not kindness.
I disciplined by children when they needed it, it wasn't because I didn't have a heart. It was because I love them and care about them and want to understand right from wrong.

So, if your worldview of love and care and respect and morality and right and wrong led you to Trump, of what value are your deeply held beliefs?

Because now that Trump has begun deporting U.S. citizens, you seem to be unabashedly happy about it.

According to your belief system, you would also have to support ICE breaking down your door and deporting you.
 
So, if your worldview of love and care and respect and morality and right and wrong led you to Trump, of what value are your deeply held beliefs?

Because now that Trump has begun deporting U.S. citizens, you seem to be unabashedly happy about it.

According to your belief system, you would also have to support ICE breaking down your door and deporting you.
It's because it's happening to brown people.
 
That is terrifying. How horrible for the family. :(

Agreed. ICE should not exist, and immigration authorities should not have this power. Especially when they are led by a lawless tyrant President like ours is.
 
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They're vindictive even in victory. There isn't a moment they don't feel like they're the victims.

Well, I think the vindictiveness comes partially from a sense of sincere yet unspoken dissatisfaction. And why should they be satisfied? It is not as though Donald Trump’s victory materially benefited any of Trump’s supporters, except for a handful of already-wealthy Wall Street insider traders. Beyond them, the cost of living for the average everyday Trump has not decreased. Their access to healthcare is not better. Their rent is not going down. Their retirement portfolios are not increasing in value unless they went all-in on gold. They are no better off than they were under Biden and many are worse off with the tariffs.
 
Some random Liberal says: Waaaaaaa! :ROFLMAO:

Goodness, your clever jabs hurt my feelings. Now I am sad. 😢

Oscar Wilde has nothing on you, Mr. Ten-dash.

I am going to have a hard time going to sleep tonight knowing you will probably be bragging to your many sexy, charismatic, wealthy friends, (who probably are not as sexy, charismatic and wealthy as you), your beloved wife and your happy family about how you made a random leftist on the internet cry.
 
No one cares about your feelings either way.


Oscar Wilde? A rather obscure reference don't you think?

You don't speak for anyone except yourself.

I care what he has to say, just as I care about the words of any forumer who communicates with intelligence and integrity.

Every time you post, on the other hand, I see that your goal is trolling and nothing else, so in a way, I understand the motivation behind your reply.

Oscar Wilde isn't an obscure reference.
 
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2nd amendment is only there so white guys like me can shoot poor brown people
Well that’s an idiotic take but I guess that’s not against the forums rules.
 
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So Trump's ICE thugs raided a house of citizens because they didn't appear to know that the current residents were not their targets.

‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects



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And now Trump wants to put the military onto our streets? **** this fascist orange clown.
Whoever was in charge of this needs to be held responsible and the family needs to be very heavily financially compensated
 
My big issue with issuing no knock warrants is that often the police or policing authority don’t have the correct information.

The police busting down the doors of innocent people happens because we allow it to happen.

We shouldn’t allow it to happen.
Yep. No knock warrants are way overused.
Should be only used in extreme circumstances. And that the suspect might hide or flush evidence isn’t extreme.
 
Leopards stalk on silent, padded paws so you don't hear them sneaking up behind you, ready to knock you down and eat your face. That's why people defend what these agents did. But the leopards are coming for them too.
 
You don't speak for anyone except yourself.
Fair enough.
I care what he has to say, just as I care about the words of any forumer who communicates with intelligence and integrity.
I always speak with intelligence and integrity. You just don't always like what I have to say.
Every time you post, on the other hand, I see that your goal is trolling and nothing else, so in a way, I understand the motivation behind your reply.
Since when is posting articles for discussion trolling? Again, you just don't like what I am saying. And you probably also don't like the fact that I don't play silly games with Liberals trying to troll me. If it appears to you that I am trolling someone you can best assure they likely had it coming.
Oscar Wilde isn't an obscure reference.
Yeah, it is.
 
Fair enough.

I always speak with intelligence and integrity. You just don't always like what I have to say.

Since when is posting articles for discussion trolling? Again, you just don't like what I am saying. And you probably also don't like the fact that I don't play silly games with Liberals trying to troll me. If it appears to you that I am trolling someone you can best assure they likely had it coming.

Yeah, it is.
Oscar Wilde is one of the most often quoted writers of all time. He's a celebrated wit and far from obscure. Dorothy Parker said of Wilde...

If with the literate I am
Impelled to try an epigram,
I never seek to take the credit;
We all assume that Oscar said it.

Of course, you probably think Dorothy Parker is an obscure reference.

 
This story is certainly heart wrenching but, to be fair, it only tells one side of the story.

There was a warrant to search the house and the purpose of that warrant wasn't disclosed in the reporting. Since it was a SEARCH warrant that indicates that some judge found it reasonable that the warrant be issued. That reason could have been anything from drugs and guns to international terrorism. It also appears that this was a rental property rather than a purchased property so, if that was the case, then law enforcement wouldn't necessarily have known or have reason to know that the prior resident was no longer there.
Some judge or magistrate signed off on a warrant based off a report of DV made against a man where the woman claimed her ex-bf kicked in her door, chased her around the house, then ran off. Literally her words. That ex-bf was an ex from 15-20 years ago and had been shot in the back and paralyzed from chest down, confined to the wheelchair for about that same time of 20+ years. The woman herself had also been convicted of making false police reports before. No investigation was actually done, yet a warrant for his arrest was issued.

If cops can get arrest warrants based off such crap, ICE can certainly get a MAGA judge to sign off on any crap search warrant they present with as flimsy evidence as "well they reportedly lived at this address in the last 10 years".
 
Like I said, that depends on what the warrant was for. The mere existence of a search warrant means there was some level of investigation and the "no knock" service indicates that it wasn't just to apprehend someone that missed a status hearing.
No. The mere existence of a warrant does not mean a good investigation was done. Finding that a suspect might have lived at an address within the last 10 years or even the last year is not itself "an investigation" worthy of a warrant.
 
So, if your worldview of love and care and respect and morality and right and wrong led you to Trump, of what value are your deeply held beliefs?

Because now that Trump has begun deporting U.S. citizens, you seem to be unabashedly happy about it.

According to your belief system, you would also have to support ICE breaking down your door and deporting you.
Ultimately, @Integrityrespec wants to punish people he disagrees with and wants to use Trump as a proxy to land that punishment.

Enabling someone to do wrong is not having a heart. The left chooses to ignore the law and claim they are being kind, they are enabling wrong doing. That's not kindness.
I disciplined by children when they needed it, it wasn't because I didn't have a heart. It was because I love them and care about them and want to understand right from wrong.
 
This is unfortunate, but you forgot to tell us why this mistake was made? Was it corrected when they realized there was a mistake made? The nation is overrun with millions of immigrants who illegally entered the country and that is a felony, a crime and one that in many cases can end in immediate deportation even without what many would claim was lack of due process, but that's the law.
Under certain circumstances, including being apprehended near the border and within a short timeframe after entering the country, undocumented immigrants can be subject to expedited removal. This process allows for immediate deportation without a formal court hearing.
  • Individuals who already have a removal order in place, such as those who missed a court date or were previously found deportable, may not be granted a new hearing before being deported.

  • Asylum seekers must make a formal request for asylum within the first year they are in the country.
What does your jibberish have to do with …….

Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home​


The family had their money and possessions taken away and not returned, so no, the innocent was not corrected
 
We are talking about unreasonable and unsubstantiated searches due to some apparently overzealous ****s not making sure they have their facts together before traumatizing innocent people.

Let us all know when you are able to intelligently and reasonably discuss how that can be avoided whenever, wherever, and however possible.

Thank you.
OK. So you know the warrant was complete bullshit because.....uhhhh....because.....well...because Rachael had the story on her show tonight and Rachael is the savior of the American people and she's neverr wrong and PLEASE let this be true because so much of the other bullshit we believe has turned out to be bullshit and this one HAS to be true because I'm freaking out!!!

Is that about the way this is all working for you so far?
 
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