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You guys have real life cops (and ex cops) here, all anon. So why not ask us?

Good for you, stillballin! I have been references for 3 guys...and all three did indeed become cops. Well, one went in to and was accepted as CHP, the other Sheriff, the last one a cop. All three were great guys and I was happy to give good references. You watch yourself if you do, ya hear? Crazy people out there...and your life will be on the line all the time. I wish good things for you and light a candle for you to stay protected.
Holy crap the vitriol directed at policemen in this thread is absolutely disgusting.

I'm considering becoming a cop after I graduate, that is if for whatever reason the military doesn't work out. I'm sick of people cop-bashing because they think it's cool. Being a cop is NOT an easy job, it doesn't matter whether you're a traffic cop, a detective, a SWAT team member, none of it is easy. It's a stressful, thankless job with ****ty hours and the service they perform outweighs all the bad pub the cops get in the media. Imagine making a traffic stop and not knowing how the person driving the car is going to react. Ever wonder why cops keep one hand on the holster whenever they make a traffic stop? It's because there's a .001% chance that the driver will act in a hostile fashion, or else is a crazy ****ing psycho who shoots back because he wants a ticket.

have a little ****ing empathy for those who keep our world in a state of order.
 
No matter how you classify them (good cop, bad cop, hero, thug, pick your epithet) it takes a special breed of human being to be a police officer.

Out here in the sticks, the Sheriff puts out 3 one-man units to patrol the county overnight. Three guys to cover the county, so if you end up in the ****, the nearest backup could be 20 minutes away. While I'm sure that the vast, vast majority of overnight shifts don't involve crazy shoot-outs or highway chases, that doesn't change the fact that a domestic situation you figured was pretty straightforward could degenerate over the course of a few seconds. Suddenly a situation where you would've been mildly embarrassed about asking for backup on turns into one of those where you wish you had a free hand to call for backup with.

That is, of course, assuming that you haven't found yourself in one of the dead zones in the county's radio data network. There are a few of those, oh my yes.

All of this on top of the fact that your job isn't to shoot first and ask questions later.

I have a lot of authority issues. I am highly critical of the criminal justice system, which I think is busted and in serious need of repair. I have seen and hate with a passion that is pure and true how politics can supplant the pursuit of truth and justice. I've seen people bitch and moan about how defense lawyers will do anything to get their clients off, but I've seen plenty of prosecutors who are just looking for a notch in their belt too.

Ultimately, we all need to remember that the system isn't a machine -- the floors and foundations are built of policies and laws and regulations, but all of the moving parts are made of flesh and blood. That means that the participants will at turns be more noble than the skeptics expect, and less pure of motive or practice than the believers expect.
 
Holy crap the vitriol directed at policemen in this thread is absolutely disgusting.

I'm considering becoming a cop after I graduate, that is if for whatever reason the military doesn't work out. I'm sick of people cop-bashing because they think it's cool. Being a cop is NOT an easy job, it doesn't matter whether you're a traffic cop, a detective, a SWAT team member, none of it is easy. It's a stressful, thankless job with ****ty hours and the service they perform outweighs all the bad pub the cops get in the media. Imagine making a traffic stop and not knowing how the person driving the car is going to react. Ever wonder why cops keep one hand on the holster whenever they make a traffic stop? It's because there's a .001% chance that the driver will act in a hostile fashion, or else is a crazy ****ing psycho who shoots back because he wants a ticket.

have a little ****ing empathy for those who keep our world in a state of order.

A bit worked up when i typed this, that should be "doesn't want a ticket."
 
Good for you, stillballin! I have been references for 3 guys...and all three did indeed become cops. Well, one went in to and was accepted as CHP, the other Sheriff, the last one a cop. All three were great guys and I was happy to give good references. You watch yourself if you do, ya hear? Crazy people out there...and your life will be on the line all the time. I wish good things for you and light a candle for you to stay protected.

Thanks for the support, Enola.
 
Holy crap the vitriol directed at policemen in this thread is absolutely disgusting.

I'm considering becoming a cop after I graduate, that is if for whatever reason the military doesn't work out. I'm sick of people cop-bashing because they think it's cool. Being a cop is NOT an easy job, it doesn't matter whether you're a traffic cop, a detective, a SWAT team member, none of it is easy. It's a stressful, thankless job with ****ty hours and the service they perform outweighs all the bad pub the cops get in the media. Imagine making a traffic stop and not knowing how the person driving the car is going to react. Ever wonder why cops keep one hand on the holster whenever they make a traffic stop? It's because there's a .001% chance that the driver will act in a hostile fashion, or else is a crazy ****ing psycho who shoots back because he wants a ticket.

have a little ****ing empathy for those who keep our world in a state of order.

From what I have seen here you would be a credit to any force. If you decide to do it, best of luck.
 
The 'blue line' means cops protect cops, even if they're bad cops. What is it about that that you don't understand?

Hopefully there will be crimianl charges filed. However, if I was on the jury, I'd vote not guilty. The cops would know exactly who you are, where you live, and would make your life a living hell if you actually voted to convict one of their 'brothers'. You mess with cops - even through the legal system - and you pay the price.

Take off your hate lenses. As to your service on a jury trying a cop, I hope you're never called. Your comment here shows a complete lack of character. Sorry, but it does.

The Thin Blue Line

The Blue represents the officer and the courage they find deep inside when faced with insurmountable odds.
The Black background was designed as a constant reminder of our fallen brother and sister officers.
The Line, the line is what police officers protect, the barrier between anomie and a civilized society, between order and chaos, between respect for decency and lawlessness.
Together they symbolize the camaraderie law enforcement officers all share, a brotherhood like no other.

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And just so you know I'm serious, I have seen, and will share, some really crappy instances of police misconduct. I've been out of the cop business for a while, and the only thing that matters to me is JUSTICE.

I'm sure many cops/ex cops feel the same. They want to talk. Because most of them are good people who got into this low paying business to help people. Those are the people who sign up. People that care..... And yes, occassionally you get the jerk who was beat up in highschool for being a dick and became a cop to get everyone back. Just like any job.

I think most people are more critical of the institution of our justice system than with individuals of our justice system.

But, then again, many members of law enforcement look at criminals more as an institution than as individuals too.

And it doesn't help that police enforce a lot of bull**** laws that really shouldn't be laws. And, no, that's not those officers' fault either. But even so they have to enforce them.
 
Anyway, you say most cops are good and dedicated, yet there are some who are not. I say most cops are good and dedicated, yet there are some who are not. We're essentially saying the same thing, albeit with different ways of saying so, and approaching it from different directions. Just as it is irresponsible to say all cops are bad, it is even more naive to say all cops are good. People as individuals should always be aware that the possibility, remote as it is, always exists that you might be dealing with a bad cop in a given situation. That is the purpose in bringing to people's attention that abuses of the system do indeed happen. Do I really need to put a disclaimer with every post? Sheesh!

ETA: You didn't say all cops are good, but many people do, or imply so.
I'm going to expand on this a bit as some additional thoughts popped in my head this morning.

You are from the system. You have issues with the system, but you feel the need to defend the good and legitimate parts of the system. Nothing wrong with that. Perfectly natural. Perfectly understandable. As such, it is human nature to be more sensitive to criticisms of the system and interpret them (subconsciously?) as all-inclusive attacks on the good parts as well as the bad parts. Maybe even as attacks on you, by extension, as individuals. In other words, you defend the good while admitting the bad does indeed exist, albeit as an exception to the general rule. (That's also what I meant in a previous post about being "too close" to the subject. I was not referencing what an officer sees and has to deal with, but rather the feeling of being personally questioned regarding everything.)

On the flip side, others, many of the so-called "bashers", point out the bad that does indeed exist, which is not necessarily any different from what you point out, just different in presentation. We don't feel the same need to defend the system... defend ourselves, really... because we don't identify ourselves with the system, or the system with us. We're not attacking the whole system, or the good parts of the system, we're only addressing the bad parts of the system. We are more free to focus only on the issue that need addressing and fixing.

If the system consists of A thru Z, and we question A, B, and C, that doesn't mean we are also questioning D thru Z. In fact, we may be perfectly fine with D thru Z. We probably could do a better job of reassuring people that we're fine with D thru Z, but we really shouldn't have to add a disclaimer in every single post, either.

ETA: I am not including those who make blanket statements (on either side) in this discussion.
 
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Police are a necessary part of society for sure. But that doesn't mean that we should outright trust them. As the founders said, the government is not an insitution of trust. Just because it's necessary doesn't mean we should trust it. In fact, due to the many fail conditions of government and what that can mean to the freedom and liberty of the people; we necessarily must be distrustful of government. This includes the cops. We see too much protection for them. When they commit crimes, how many times do they go to jail for it? How many times would ordinary citizens go to jail for the same crimes? There's a lot to watch and oversee to ensure a properly working police system which cannot act against the rights and liberties of the individual. There is nothing wrong with distrust of the government, in fact it was well endorsed by the founders of this Republic.
 
I see all these crazy "let's bash the cops because I was arrested once!" posts, and I wondered if those people had ever stopped to ask the cops and ex cops on this site what the job is like, how things go down, etc? Because we are annon here, we can answer honestly. Hell I know I've agreed with a few of the bashers a time or two on certain topics.

Can't they do the same? Or at least ask why? With an open mind would be good as well.

I've notice the same two people just bashing the cops day in and day out, and I wonder why they just don't ASK one of the many cops/ex cops on this site.

OK cop, is it true you guys receive 100 shares of Dunkin Doughnuts stock immediately upon being hired?
 
Jesus Christ people it was a clear joke, im not trying to troll anyone. It's called wit, sarcasm, making a smart-ass remark.....

....you know, all the NORMAL qualities of humor before everything became a matter of "trolling".

(Did you really think someone could be stupid as to think that would pass off as successful trolling?)
 
Jesus Christ people it was a clear joke, im not trying to troll anyone. It's called wit, sarcasm, making a smart-ass remark.....

....you know, all the NORMAL qualities of humor before everything became a matter of "trolling".

(Did you really think someone could be stupid as to think that would pass off as successful trolling?)

That largely depends on who 'someone' is. ;)
 
Jesus Christ people it was a clear joke, im not trying to troll anyone. It's called wit, sarcasm, making a smart-ass remark.....


....you know, all the NORMAL qualities of humor before everything became a matter of "trolling".


(Did you really think someone could be stupid as to think that would pass off as successful trolling?)

I allowed for the possibility that it was a joke. It still blew big wet chunks. You're really not in a position to be questioning anybody else's intelligence on this one, sorry.
 
OK fine, serious question then, does anyone think it's kinda ironic when you see Police Officers at the diner, they're getting breakfast, and the waitress asks them if they want sausage or bacon with their pancakes? I could never ask a cop if he wants bacon with a straight face??? lol

You know, cuz bacon comes from pigs.
 
Your attempts at humor are unfailingly DOA. If you can't actually contribute to the discussion, maybe you should leave it to others who can.
 
Alright this is my last post here, promise...

....a question to police officers: If every corrupt and unjust bullet that you fired, were turned around on you, would that reduce the police force by 20% or much larger? Keep in mind, you guys fired40+ wrongful shots into a man named Amadu Dialo alone..... so statistically speaking, how many cops do you think would be left? this is hypothetical of course. keep in mind the city of L.A. exists too....
 
Alright this is my last post here, promise...

....a question to police officers: If every corrupt and unjust bullet that you fired, were turned around on you, would that reduce the police force by 20% or much larger? Keep in mind, you guys fired40+ wrongful shots into a man named Amadu Dialo alone..... so statistically speaking, how many cops do you think would be left? this is hypothetical of course. keep in mind the city of L.A. exists too....

Moderator's Warning:
You are trolling. Stop or you'll be gone from the thread... at the least.
 
c'mon dude this was like hours ago.....you Mods need to stop picking on me
 
c'mon dude this was like hours ago.....you Mods need to stop picking on me

This is a good example of the type of people (some of them) who hate cops. They can't take responsibility for their own actions (a point CC made earlier).
 
I see all these crazy "let's bash the cops because I was arrested once!" posts, and I wondered if those people had ever stopped to ask the cops and ex cops on this site what the job is like, how things go down, etc? Because we are annon here, we can answer honestly. Hell I know I've agreed with a few of the bashers a time or two on certain topics.

Can't they do the same? Or at least ask why? With an open mind would be good as well.

I've notice the same two people just bashing the cops day in and day out, and I wonder why they just don't ASK one of the many cops/ex cops on this site.

Just as bashing teachers is cool ... bashing cops is also cool. If you ain't bashing ... you just a fool.
 
One of my good friends is a cop. It doesn't change my view on the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and how some police have no respect for the rights of others.
 
That's one of the problems with cops. Nobody should ever go to jail for 'talking' to a cop. They start to believe that they are above the law themselves, and any questioning of them or their behavior is looked upon as a criminal offense. The advent of the dashboard camera and the proliferation of cell phone cameras has revealed just how out of control some of these cops really are. And we give them guns.

You missed the point.

Talking to an officer like an ass won't earn a warning. Got to play to the human side of people, it sounds silly, I know.

But think of a police officer as a robot with no emotional side whatsoever..... You have been stopped for speeding. You ARE getting a ticket. Because the robot is programmed to enforce the law, period.

Now you've been stopped by a human. You act politely and considerate. You have the potential (not the guarantee) to not be cited/fined for a violation of law.

Again, You've been stopped by a human, you weren't paying attention to what speed you were going (easily 60% or more of drivers don't pay attention on roads they are familiar with) and you attempt to rudely argue with the officer that you weren't doing anything wrong. You are diminishing your potential to not be cited/fined for your violation of law. Warnings aren't guaranteed.
 
They're either thugs with badges or they tolerate those who are. That's a simple fact.

Thats not a simple fact.

Chances are what you consider a "thug" is WAYY off base.

Most likely its "anyone who would take enforcement action against me"
 
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