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We can discuss this further.During WW II, and into the early 1950s the national socialist fascist Democrats (Truman and FDR) illegally froze all wages in the US. In order to offer potential employees incentives, companies began offering non-wage compensation - like health insurance. Prior to WW II very few people had any kind of health insurance. It has only been since the late 1940s and 1950s when health insurance became a thing that people wanted. Then Democrats destroyed that in 1965 when they created the unconstitutional MediCare/MedicAid that deliberately uncut the healthcare market.
I am still waiting to read the Biden plan. Single payer is what I want.Trump should sign the Biden Plan! Take that issue off the table for Biden. That would show him.
Post for us the precise wording of the EO you are using.Anyone that thinks djt has a plan should look to his Executive Order on preexisting conditions. He put forth an Executive Order for something that is already legal! This tells us two things, (1) there is no R healthplan and (2) djt is a complete idiot that has zero clue as to what the President actually does.
Your chart is not for the ACA, it is for Medicaid. That goes back many years, prior to Obama.If you have an offer of affordable coverage from an employer, you can't get financial assistance to strike out on your own. But if you don't have an offer of affordable coverage, you can. Depending on how low your income is you can potentially either be eligible for Medicaid or eligible for tax credits to defray premiums for commercial insurance in the marketplace.
Family Size Medicaid Eligibility Cutoff Premium Affordability Tax Credits Cutoff 1 $17,600 $51,000 2 $23,800 $69,000 3 $30,000 $86,900 4 $36,200 $104,800 5 $42,300 $122,700 6 $48,500 $140,600
If you don't think there should be a cutoff for tax credits at some arbitrary income or you don't believe that people with affordable employer plans should be eligible for getting help to shop on their own, then perhaps you're for the Biden Plan which gets rid of both those things.
Trump has filed his brief with the SCOTUS, we know what he wants. He's on the wrong side of protecting people with pre-existing conditions.
I am hoping you have the correct figure. Tell us.Let's say I am a 40 year male who is health and hasn't been to the doctor in years. i drop my heath insurance since I see this as a waste of money. Two years after dropping my health insurance, I start feeling bad and decide to go see a doctor and am diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer. Obviously this is going to be expensive so i rush out to buy health insurance and Trump passed a law saying I have to be covered. Any guesses what a premium would cost?
Democrats created the fiasco.Cruz is lying. His contribution during the GOP's 2017 health care fiasco was an amendment to, you guessed it, bring back pre-existing conditions.
How the Cruz Amendment Might Affect the Marketplace: Applying Different Rules to Competing Health Plans
They'll tell you they're going to protect those with pre-existing conditions. They are not.
Why is the Federal Government in the insurance business?This is true, a better plan and cheaper plan will be a plus. It must contain pre-existing conditions, which Trump has promised. Cost is a big issue as well as coverage. At least half the country doesn't want single payer so the plan has to offer options.
I am still waiting to read the Biden plan.
Your chart is not for the ACA, it is for Medicaid. That goes back many years, prior to Obama.
Get back to the ACA law.
I was born in 1954. While my first memories were of the late 1950s, I was only 9 years old when JFK was assassinated. I did not become "financially aware" of things until age 10, when I got my first job. I recall my parents buying a nice four-bedroom home in Fremont, Nebraska in 1968 for $12,500. Which was about 75% of my father's annual income at the time.We can discuss this further.
Since I was then a child, I have the memories of my childhood as a child. Mom was the family bookkeeper and was not a whiner. My first dad was in short, a bum.
Mom was not a silent mom. I recall when she discussed a large for the time, hospital bill Dad (2) paid to get her out of the hospital.
She was headed to Sacramento on a heavy traveled road and a state legislator hit her car from the rear and she was hospitalized for 3 weeks.
Dad earned maybe $6,000 per year and the bill he paid was $10,000 appx, or more than a years income.
She sued the congressman of CA and the ruling by the court favored the lawmaker.
Anyway, though she did not discuss with me the payments to the hospital for my surgery (Tonsils and Adenoids removed) she did discuss the huge bill.
When you can get hurt severely by a state lawmaker and he is deemed innocent, it says medical care is only cared for Democrats who do not understand the philosophy of Ayn Rand.
“It has been and will continue to be the policy of the United States to give Americans seeking healthcare more choice, lower costs, and better care and to ensure that Americans with pre-existing conditions can obtain the insurance of their choice at affordable rates.”Post for us the precise wording of the EO you are using.
If only there was a way to get you to act civilized.!!!
It is your problem and not my problem.let me solve your problem for ya
post reasonably and get a reasonable response
post nonsense and expect to get called out
That is not the actual EO and my interpretation is as Trump says, preexisting stands protected.“It has been and will continue to be the policy of the United States to give Americans seeking healthcare more choice, lower costs, and better care and to ensure that Americans with pre-existing conditions can obtain the insurance of their choice at affordable rates.”
Now, post for us the precise meaning of how R's interpret this...
That is not the actual EO and my interpretation is as Trump says, preexisting stands protected.
I graduated from high school in 1956 and recall precisely what you are talking of. Carter was my final vote for any Democrat and I switched to Reagan in time to elect him.I was born in 1954. While my first memories were of the late 1950s, I was only 9 years old when JFK was assassinated. I did not become "financially aware" of things until age 10, when I got my first job. I recall my parents buying a nice four-bedroom home in Fremont, Nebraska in 1968 for $12,500. Which was about 75% of my father's annual income at the time.
Prices started to skyrocket during the 1970s. I still remember Ford's 1976 campaign slogan was "W.I.N" ("Whip Inflation Now"), which was really stupid. No wonder Carter won. We went from $0.25/gallon for gasoline in 1970 to $1.25/gallon for gasoline by 1980. The US dollar effectively lost 80% of its value during the 1970s.
Your question, as usual, is biased. You leave no room whatsoever for any other options such as the ACA will be eliminated but something better will eventually take it's place. Your mind can't think outside of your preconceived biases. First of all, Trump signed an executive order on pre-existing conditions, so that they would still be in place if the ACA was ruled invalid. And, your side partisanly tries to claim that if the ACA was gone there would be no healthcare. We had healthcare before the ACA and we will have it again after the ACA. Before the ACA healthcare was cheaper for Americans. And, the poor got free healthcare. What if the ACA getting voted down by the SC actually leads to MFA? Wouldn't that be better in your mind? There has already been talk that if Biden wins and gets both Houses they can just pass a "tax" mandate of a token $1 and the ACA would be right back in business. Now, admit it, you are blowing this thing way up out of proportion to help yourselves win in the election, just as you have been claiming for decades that Republicans will take social security away, which you have been at that yet again too. It's all about instilling fear to get out the vote.Trump helpfully reminds the voters this morning he's going to court the week after the election to ask the Supreme Court to eliminate the entire Affordable Care Act. Things like pre-existing condition protections, tax credits to help people afford premiums, Medicaid expansion, Medicare reforms, funds for training health care providers and investing in public health, all gone.
Is he right that winding the clock back a decade plus would be a "big win" for the U.S.?
Trump says elimination of Obamacare would be a ‘win for the USA’
First of all, Trump signed an executive order on pre-existing conditions, so that they would still be in place if the ACA was ruled invalid.
And, your side partisanly tries to claim that if the ACA was gone there would be no healthcare. We had healthcare before the ACA and we will have it again after the ACA. Before the ACA healthcare was cheaper for Americans. And, the poor got free healthcare. What if the ACA getting voted down by the SC actually leads to MFA? Wouldn't that be better in your mind?
There has already been talk that if Biden wins and gets both Houses they can just pass a "tax" mandate of a token $1 and the ACA would be right back in business. Now, admit it, you are blowing this thing way up out of proportion to help yourselves win in the election, just as you have been claiming for decades that Republicans will take social security away, which you have been at that yet again too. It's all about instilling fear to get out the vote.
It is the left who want to take away the healthcare of over 100 million Americans.This is an absurd statement. Not only can pre-existing conditions not be banned via executive order, the EO you're referencing doesn't even pretend to do so. If the ACA goes away, those protections are gone.
The negative impacts of a potential decision against the ACA have been well documented. "Maybe if we take tens of millions of people's coverage away things will work out somehow someday" is not convincing.
Sounds like you're saying as long as the Dems get unified control of government, we'll probably be okay. Can't argue with that.
As soon as trump says in two weeks you know it's a lie. lol believe me.I'm absolutely, positive without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt that we'll see his marvelous plan in 2 weeks. I can hardly wait!
It's statements like this why people don't take you seriously. Ten years the gop has been trying to kill the aca and not a single soul has anything to replace it with. Ten years, show us your plan or is this too also top secret?It is the left who want to take away the healthcare of over 100 million Americans.
It is the left who want to take away the healthcare of over 100 million Americans.
Your plan (MFA) would take away the health insurance that over 100 million Americans have right now.It's statements like this why people don't take you seriously. Ten years the gop has been trying to kill the aca and not a single soul has anything to replace it with. Ten years, show us your plan or is this too also top secret?
I was responding to YOUR post that said Republicans want to take away healthcare of over 100,000 Americans when the left want to take away the healthcare of over one million Americans.Can't tell if this is meant to be an argument that destroying the ACA would be good for America or bad.
I was responding to YOUR post that said Republicans want to take away healthcare of over 100,000 Americans when the left want to take away the healthcare of over one million Americans.
It is a quote from the EO. Your interpretation is incorrect.That is not the actual EO and my interpretation is as Trump says, preexisting stands protected.
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