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She would be more my type than she is now.
If she had "convictions" she'd be your type then?
She would be more my type than she is now.
Two years ago, Spike Dolomite Ward and her husband had to choose between paying their mortgage or keeping their health insurance. They kept the house, and now at 49 Ward has been diagnosed with breast cancer. She didn't know how she'd afford months of expensive treatment, until he discovered the Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan, which is part of Obama's healthcare plan. Now she's publicly "outed" herself in the hopes that she can teach ObamaCare opponents that the uninsured aren't just lazy freeloaders.
I cant be the only one who read her 'story' and was pissed off. Or am I?
Money was tight - and like countless other people - they had to make choices where to cut back money. Somehow that came down to the house VS their healthcare (nevermind cellphone, internet, tv, etc etc etc).
So - naturally - they CANCELED their own insurance knowing all too well the possibility of something bad happening when they're uninsured.
But then she claims that "not all people without insurance are lazy freeloaders" and that "If you still have a good job with insurance, that doesn't mean that you're better than me, more deserving than me or smarter than me. It just means that you are luckier."
She's a ****ING DIP**** who put their general healthcare underneath the possibility of SELLING THEIR HOME. Holy poo - since when are homes that important? Would it have killed them to just let go of it or rent it out? . . . and she breaks it down to being 'lucky' or not? What about all the other people who were in their same situation and chose to just keep the insurance they originally had even if it meant letting go of something else?
Well - they most certainly wouldn't have been having to appologize to the president and make total asses out of their selves - now would they?
No, it sounds like she suddenly realize that her convictions weren't going to make life easy or simple and so she abandoned them without even the pretense of following them. That's part of why I've got mine in WRITING, and notarized. Now I can't just change my mind on a whim and do the easy thing rather than the Right one.
Four words for you.....
Better DEAD than RED
I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.
Yes, I do understand that means after age 65 I will be without any medical insurance.
You don't know **** about this lady, and whether she had cable, a cell phone, or whatever. Nor is it your place to judge. Every thread I go in you are outraged at someone and talking about their needing to burn in hell and how dumb they are. Always up on your high horse. No one is impressed.
- I'm just not admonishing her for praise she doesn't deserve.We made a nerve-racking gamble, and we lost.
:shrug:
She said it herself - I'm just not admonishing her for praise she doesn't deserve.
Everyone has the right to change their opinion. The Government has no right to force anyone to buy anything. It then becomes a tax because the government has no role as a retailer. Some portions of all insurance plans should be altered, but to have a government official look at a chart and tell me "well, based on your age you can't have this operation" is just plain wrong. For you pie-in-the-skyer-liberal-Obama-Lovers, send him another few dollars for his campaign. He only has a billion right now.
So, you are FOR people who are 102 years old having cardiac bypass even though there probable survival rate is below zero?? You are FOR proliferate spending ...
You don't know **** about this lady, and whether she had cable, a cell phone, or whatever. Nor is it your place to judge. Every thread I go in you are outraged at someone and talking about their needing to burn in hell and how dumb they are. Always up on your high horse. No one is impressed.
Talk is cheap young man.No. Just sounds like she doesn't actually have any convictions.
It's a shame it takes breast cancer for the woman to realize it's not only free loaders that tend to get screwed or have problems with insurance.
It's a shame it takes breast cancer for the woman to realize it's not only free loaders that tend to get screwed or have problems with insurance.
If she elected to drop her insurance and now expects someone else to pick up her bills, is she not a freeloader?
From the article it seems as if she's paid to an insurance provider her whole life. Recent events made her drop insurance. That's entirely the issue. If I pay insurance premiums my whole life...lose my job and am uninsured for a short period of time...am I a free loader? No, it's bad timing and is a flaw in the private insurance system. Humana doesn't care if I paid to CIGNA my whole life.
If she elected to drop her insurance and now expects someone else to pick up her bills, is she not a freeloader?
She isn't expecting someone else to pick up her bills. She just wanted to buy insurance without being excluded from doing so.
You bring up a good point though - with no pre-existing condition exclusions, someone could just wait until they are sick and then buy insurance, though that didn't seem to be her intent here. The answer to that problem was...the mandate requiring everyone to buy insurance.
You can still be against Obama care and for some type of government assited healthcare system. If I could design a system she would be covered but it wouldn't be Obama care.
You can still be against Obama care and for some type of government assited healthcare system. If I could design a system she would be covered but it wouldn't be Obama care.
I agree...I'm not a big fan of Obamacare. It's basically a handout to private insurers. At the same time....it supposedly was the only thing that would get support from Conservatives being a former Conservative plan. He should of just said "fu** ya'll we're going public option".
she did not pay her provider her whole life. If she had, she would have had insurance when she needed it, and this thread would have no meaning
She elected to gamble her wellness against her home, and lost.
Of course...I mentioned she had to drop insurance due to financial problems. She paid earlier in her life...when she was healthy...which is the point of insurance. The moment she drops it..bang breast cancer. For almost her entire life...she did the right thing, pay insurance premiums incase she has a problem. When she needs it the most, she doesn't have it.
I don't know if that's a gamble as much as being a rational human being.
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