Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32[W:122]

[calamity]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Roy Moore accuser worked for Clinton campaign as interpreter, reports say
Roy Moore accuser worked for Clinton campaign as interpreter, reports say | Fox News
One of the women accusing Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual impropriety reportedly worked as a sign language interpreter for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, a new report claims.

Deborah Wesson Gibson, who told The Washington Post that she briefly dated Moore when she was 17 and he was 34, founded the language interpreting company, Signs of Excellence, and has worked for a number of democratic campaigns, according to Alabama Local News.

The company’s Facebook page shows Gibson working for and posing with several democratic candidates at political rallies including 2016 presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, former Vice President Joe Biden, former Sen. Patrick Murphy, D-Fla., and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla."

" Step aside", huh ?

Faux Noise :lol: only took them 48 hours to blame Hillary for Moore groping children.

 

[yankintx]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

So what?

Interpreters are not part of a campaign...they interpret, its a gig.

Keep trying, its hilarious.

The poster has a doll of Hilldog stuck with pins, rabid with the Hill dog hate, is that you Hannity? Sure sounds like him

 

[RAMOSS]

Prove it.

There are 4 independent woman, with over 30 various witnesses that collaborated the story to the Washington post before they published it.

Roy Moore's defense was 'He didn't date teenage women unless he got permission from their mother'.

Roy Moore says he never dated girls without their mother's permission, and denies allegations of sexual misconduct

He specifically said I don't remember that and I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother

That specific statement is a contradiction to the rest of his interview . If they were over 21, the idea of asking permission would be.. strange.

 

[maxparrish]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Moral?

You believe a middle-aged man feeding a 14yo booze, and feeling her up and trying to bed her is moral?

I pointed out your seeming confusion over legal vs moral/natural evaluations; how you read that as a "moral" position on providing booze to a 14 year old is unknown. But as you brought it up, no I don't consider providing booze to a 14 year old girl to get in her pants ethical (but I suppose it is natural).

But for the reasons already stated, it deserves a pass.

 

[Fenton]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

So what?

Interpreters are not part of a campaign...they interpret, its a gig.

Keep trying, its hilarious.

So what ? Its motive and relevent whether you like it or not.

I get the Left has tried and convicted Moore, theyre desperate to win back seats but also know they cant compete with the GOP on a policy basis.

But these allegations are decades old and were made public a month before the election by a partisan and highly dishonest media outlet so there wouldnt be enough time to clear his name before the election.

If this is proven to be politically motivated then its a new low for the media and the Democrat party and like it or not, this new revelation is relevent

 

[beefheart]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

So what ? Its motive and relevent whether you like it or not.

I get the Left has tried and convicted Moore, theyre desperate to win back seats but also know they cant compete with the GOP on a policy basis.

But these allegations are decades old and were made public a month before the election by a partisan and highly dishonest media outlet so there wouldnt be enough time to clear his name before the election.

If this is proven to be politically motivated then its a new low for the media and the Democrat party and like it or not, this new revelation is relevent

Wow you actually responded. (unlike the question I put to you several times since Tuesday.)

Its not motive, it is just typical grasping at straws and victim blaming. Right out of the right wing smear playbook.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

If you look at the demographics breakdown for VA elections this week, suburban Mothers came out in droves, and voted Dem. If Moore wins, and takes his seat unchallenged by the GOP, there will be a nation full of pissed off suburban Moms, and they vote.

I don't get south of the line very often anymore, and to he truthful I'm happy about that.

But a lot of suburban moms come to Vancouver, especially the wealthy ones who shop in my neighborhood, where Lululemon was invented and where cars with Washington and California plates double park while they run in and buy some yoga pants, as if the world needs more women in yoga pants. And it seems they can't get good hockey equipment for their kids

And they talk! They talk politics, and how castrating a certain orange looking guy would certainly add to their pursuit of happiness. What I hear is them saying Trudeau is "hot", Trump is not, Canada is "nice", "why can't we be like them", and "I am so ashamed to be an American."

So I think that pursuit of happiness thing is definitely already a game changer. All those soccer and hockey moms who could not vote for a Clinton without retching.

 

[Paperview]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Faux Noise :lol: only took them 48 hours to blame Hillary for Moore groping children.

They are masters of the magical whataboutism.

 

[Superfly]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

See, that is all it takes...making accusations and possibly ruining a man's entire life. If it were a liberal atheist being accused of wrong doing, y'all would fall over yourselves with "innocent until PROVEN guilty". Of course being Moore's judge and jury is ok.
Is everyone 100% convinced beyond any doubt that the man is guilty, or is it just welcome news? Put yourself in his shoes for a moment.

Bull ****ing ****. You don't know me, lady, so stop presuming to speak for me, and what I would, or would not do.

I would never, ever give a pass to a child molester, just because he's a liberal. I'm not a ****ing idiot like some of the posts I've read.

There's a thing called moral consistency. Maybe you've heard of it? It means that if someone is a bottom feeding dirtbag, then he's a bottom feeding dirtbag, no matter what party he is in.

 

[calamity]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

They are masters of the magical whataboutism.

They'll also vote for a pedophile before they do a Democrat...probably justify it by blaming the girls.

 

[Somerville]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Looks like the "slanderous attacks" have made a difference in the Alabama Senate race

Allegations against Roy Moore have affected Senate race, new poll says

A new Alabama Senate poll, conducted Thursday, said the race between Republican Roy Moore and Democrat Doug Jones is tied.

Decision Desk HQ sponsored the poll that was conducted by Opinion Savvy.

The poll said Moore had 46.4 percent support and Jones had 46 percent support.
(. . .)
The poll found that 82.2 percent of the people surveyed were aware of the allegations made against Moore that were reported around noon Thursday by The Washington Post.

For those who have been saying that the majority of Alabamians would vote for a turtle if it ran as a Republican, the poll asked who the participants would support as a write-in candidate - the response surprised me

The poll also asked participants if, given the chance, they would write in U.S. Sen. Luther Strange at the polls. Strange lost to Moore in the GOP runoff in September. Under those circumstances, Jones had 43.6 percent support, Moore 41.3 and Strange had 12.3 percent as write-in.

 

[beefheart]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

The poster has a doll of Hilldog stuck with pins, rabid with the Hill dog hate, is that you Hannity? Sure sounds like him

Eh, its the kind of low level garbage we expect him to post.

 

[Superfly]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

They'll also vote for a pedophile before they do a Democrat...probably justify it by blaming the girls.

Can you believe some of the **** in this thread?

 

[calamity]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

So what ? Its motive and relevent whether you like it or not.

I get the Left has tried and convicted Moore, theyre desperate to win back seats but also know they cant compete with the GOP on a policy basis.

But these allegations are decades old and were made public a month before the election by a partisan and highly dishonest media outlet so there wouldnt be enough time to clear his name before the election.

If this is proven to be politically motivated then its a new low for the media and the Democrat party and like it or not, this new revelation is relevent

That's bull****.

 

[Somerville]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Not all Christians support Roy Moore

No, Christians Don't Use Joseph and Mary to Explain Child Molesting Accusations
Doing so is ridiculous and blasphemous.
by Ed Stetzer

There are times when Christians bow our heads in prayer and lament. When we see unbelievable tragedy and suffering, we find ourselves asking how much longer God will wait. This past week, I found myself calling out to God in this respect in the wake of the Texas church shooting, as I read more and more stories of faithful loved ones who lost their lives in a senseless act of violence. There are other times, however, when we shake our heads in response to the sheer foolishness from those who claim to represent him.

Yes, this is again our reality, this time coming from a defender of Roy Moore.

Today, allegations of sexual assault against Moore broke in the Washington Post. This time, the allegations involved sexual advances against a 14-year-old girl. Now, let me be clear. I know these are allegations and that everyone gets their day in court. I don’t write articles every time there is an allegation. Yet, in this case, we need to clear something up.

Simply put, it is important to make clear that Christians don’t believe the message that is coming from some of Moore’s supporters. Actually, most of us find it really creepy.
(. . .)
The court of public opinion in the age of outrage too often looks eerily similar to a lynch mob.

But in the midst of an avalanche of accusations against liberal Hollywood that we accept immediately as truth, let’s not brush aside an accusation against a religious right leader. We need to take allegations seriously on all sides of the political aisle.

In defending Moore, his supporters have now become the news and, as they do so, some are stunningly appealing to religious reasons.

Who is Ed Stetzer you may wonder: Ed Stetzer holds the Billy Graham Distinguished Chair of Church, Mission, and Evangelism at Wheaton College, is executive director of the Billy Graham Center, and publishes church leadership resources through Mission Group.

 

[year2late]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

We have to look at each situation case by case. I have dated girls under the age of 16. Am I proud of it? Of course not, however, let's not judge until all the facts of the case come out.

How old were you?

 

[Parrish]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

See, that is all it takes...making accusations and possibly ruining a man's entire life. If it were a liberal atheist being accused of wrong doing, y'all would fall over yourselves with "innocent until PROVEN guilty". Of course being Moore's judge and jury is ok.
Is everyone 100% convinced beyond any doubt that the man is guilty, or is it just welcome news? Put yourself in his shoes for a moment.

What about a pedophile ruining a CHILD'S or life?

The only way some folks would throw him over would be if he preyed on boys and young men and had a wide stance. Are you part of that group?

 

[DiAnna]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Strange was in charge of investigating the corrupt and scandal-ridden (former) Governor Bentley. The two had a meeting, after which, Strange suddenly discovered that there wasn't anything, really, that warranted the (now disgraced and deposed) Governor being investigated anymore, and Governor Bentley announced that - out of the blue! - he had suddenly realized that the perfect person to replace Senator Sessions was Strange.

If Murkowski likes his votes :shrug: okay. But Strange isn't widely respected in Alabama, and, I think, for cause. You don't choose to respect someone for their votes in spite of their unethical / semi-illegal behavior.

Well, plenty of people do, but they shouldn't.

He's better than the alternative, in my view.

What do you mean by this "new kind of voter" that scares you?

The alt-right fringe, that quite frankly never voted at all or voted for weird fringe candidates. The kind who cheer at rallies where calls are made for Muslim bans, mass deportations, ripping up DACA and sending Dreamers to countries where some can't even speak the language, who believe Hillary and Podesta ran a child sex ring in a Pizza parlor, who think US Intelligence Agencies are lying and Russia didn't try to interfere in our election, who cheer putting corporate executives who have lobbied against EPA protections in cabinet positions to gut those very protections, who have the vocal support of white supremacists and the KKK... those are the kind of voters who scare the crap out of me.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

It gets worse - now an AL senator wants the women charged as accomplices unless they recant.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...ep-ed-henry-roy-moore-victim-allegations.html

What do you want from people who think it's ok to marry their sister?

 

[maxparrish]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Link pls

First, I either misread another poster's rendition or he was partly incorrect. None the less, the 14 year old, Corfman, "felt flattered that a grown man was paying attention to her." and believed him to be "charming and smiley,”. At the time she was happy to be with Moore, and says "I was kind of giddy, excited, you know? An older guy, you know?” Corfman says, adding that her only sexual experience at that point had been kissing boys her age. She went to his house twice, kissing the first visit. Then she went again to his house, explaining “This was a new experience, and it was exciting and fun and scary,”. “It was just like this roller-coaster ride you’ve not been on.”

The second time she went back, things went further. They kissed, he touched her bra and underpants. He guided her hand to his underwear. At that point she wanted to go home, and he took her home.

Later, she acknowledged, it was her friends that convinced her that dating an older man was wrong she changed her mind and turned down future dates. (Her mother was not aware of the dating, apparently). https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.1e9b565034a7

In my view, she no longer consented and terminated an inappropriate "boyfriend". It was (beyond a doubt) at least a misdemeanor on Moore's part, on the other hand it was 39 years ago when he was a Democrat. If you can give a pass to Teddy over Mary Jo, you can easily give a pass here.

Never stated it dd not happen, did you report it to the authorities? Or just stand by?

Of course not. As previously stated, I feel no compulsion to ruin two happy people's lives and create misery over a social relationship that is openly known and approved by herself and her peers. Had I thought she was being harmed, I might have felt otherwise.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

What about a pedophile ruining a CHILD'S or life?

The only way some folks would throw him over would be if he preyed on boys and young men and had a wide stance. Are you part of that group?

Which is a good point. You have conservatives defending Moore for what he did and what Trump did. Not one liberal came out to defend Kevin Spacey or Harvey Weinstein. Spacey may go to jail. Liberals denounce our pedaphiles while conservatives elect theirs.

 

[Parrish]

Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Moore's behavior pattern of dating a 16, 17, and 18 year old as a 32+y/o has been established by him and not denied. He even said it was not normal and inappropriate. But he doesn't recall dating them. Read the transcript.

 

[year2late]

I understand completely. I have a daughter myself however temptation is all around us. In my situation, I feel I am being targeted and propisitioned all the time.

Now?By underaged women?

How old are you????

 

[year2late]

I fell victim to my vices. I dont believe I targeted anyone. I prayed and am in a better place now.

I hardly considered myself an adult at the time. Perhaps legally but not mentally or emotionally.

Is this the one were the 14 year old's mother thought you were doing her a favor?

 

[maxparrish]

Its not slander. 4 victims and 30 witnesses.

Go ahead, sue.:lamo

Thirty people interviewed about a rumor is not necessarily equal to 30 witnesses.