President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
If it was called the "Affordable Deductible Act" it might almost make sense. That is the only thing that will be decreasing for my family next year.
Unfortunately though... high-deductible plans make by far the most sense for me and my family. We are young, we are healthy, and being middle class, right around 400% of the federal poverty level, we are getting absolutely gutted by this law. Our premiums are DOUBLING in a single year and we won't qualify for any significant subsidy if we qualify at all, and statistically speaking we are very unlikely to need or use much health care or any of the special "new benefits" declared mandatory by the law.
It's a GD atrocity for middle class families.
President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
Will ObamaCare reduce healthcare costs and insurance premiums?
Full text: President Barack Obama's health care speech - Politico Staff - POLITICO.comWhat exactly did they say? How about some actual quotes instead of vague generalities based on your faulty understanding.
President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
It will provide more security and stability to those who have health insurance. It will provide insurance to those who don’t. And it will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government.
You're welcome. He said a lot of things. Don't thank me too much.Well isn't this interesting. Here is what Obama said:
Odd how that is not what Joko claimed was said....
Thanks for the link Humbolt.
President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
You're welcome. He said a lot of things. Don't thank me too much.
Common sense tells you it is impossible for rates to go down.
If an insured has paid hundreds and his health care costs are hundreds of thousands, somebody has to make that up and forcing insurance companies to take already sick people will do just that.
How could anybody think the rates would go down?
Because it's insurance...the larger the pool the less the costs.
They already do...the current system is that everybody forgoes insurance when they are young and healthy and get it when they get old and will need it more often. Either they get private or just save up that high blood pressure/high cholesterol etc until it's time to get on Medicare.Eventually the insurance company will have to pay out on everybody unless they die young.
It doesn't take a lot of people using hundreds of thousands of dollars of care when they didn't pay in hardly anything at all to créate a huge problem.
President Obama and Democratic leadership promised ObamaCare/The Affordable Healthcare Act will reduce national healthcare costs and reduce insurance premiums.
Was that a truthful promise?
Uh... Almost none of the ACA has actually started yet. Nothing about Obamacare would have affected your current copays or prescription coverage.No not for me. My insurance premiums have doubled.
Yeah, that does suck, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with Obamacare.My spouse takes a medication that costs 1700.00 every three months without insurance. Before Obamacare our cost was 300+ and today he just got his prescription filled for three months and it cost 570.00.
That's the point of the mandate...everybody does pay in. Basically everybody will be paying insurance from the age of 26 until they get on Medicare unless the are on Medicaid. Some need subsidies due to their income but ultimately everybody is paying in. No more free riders that only get it when they get married and are starting a family or start getting old.
Oh, I understand that. But in reference to the topic of the thread, what he said, and what was claimed he said are two different things.
Well isn't this interesting. Here is what Obama said:
Odd how that is not what Joko claimed was said....
Thanks for the link Humbolt.
My premiums from BC/BS just doubled from last year, minus two dollars, so in my case, the answer is No! It's too early to tell if that is going to be chronic! :thumbdown:
Greetings, joko104. :2wave:
Uh... Almost none of the ACA has actually started yet. Nothing about Obamacare would have affected your current copays or prescription coverage.
More to the point, insurance premiums have been rising steadily for years:
Plus, as of January 1st, you may qualify for better plans at a lower price, once the tax credits kick in. Not only that, but if your spouse has a condition that requires expensive medication all the time, he'd never get any coverage on the independent market. No insurer would have covered him with a pre-existing condition like that. ACA stops that kind of redlining.
Yeah, that does suck, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with Obamacare.
The AHA does not roll out in full force until January 1st 2014. What you are experiencing is the last money gouging gasp of the end of the old system.No not for me. My insurance premiums have doubled. My co-pay has doubled +. My prescription drug coverage is next to worthless. My spouse takes a medication that costs 1700.00 every three months without insurance. Before Obamacare our cost was 300+ and today he just got his prescription filled for three months and it cost 570.00. Between the added increase in premiums and prescription drugs, it is costing us dearly.
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