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"any system of government in which leaders are authorized to make decisions - and thereby to wield political power - by winning a competitive struggle for the popular vote. . .They believed that the will of the people was not synonymous with the 'common interest' or the 'public good' . . .
"They believed that the government should mediate, not mirror, popular views, and that elected officials should represent, not register, majority sentiments. They supposed that most citizens did not have the time, information, interest, and expertise to make reasonable choices among competing policy positions. They suspected that even highly educated people could be manipulated by demagogic leaders who played on their fears and prejudices."
A president MUST be decent.
A president MUST be bi-partisan.
A president MUST try to compromise on everything.
A president MUST be civil.
Imagine if you were in a job-position where you *felt* a certain way - some serious hardcore beliefs - but *had* to put aside your personal feelings, wants and desires *constantly* for the good of people who didn't even LIKE you.
Most of Obama's original supporters from the left are withdrawing their support for Obama.
Here is an article about the tea party. Read the comments at the end of the article where Obama is being called a neo-liberal by his former supporters.
I can no longer support him, either, especially since he bacame a war president.
The Tea Party Is Dangerous: Dispelling 7 Myths That Help Us Avoid Reality About the New Right-Wing Politics | | AlterNet
A president MUST be decent.
A president MUST be bi-partisan.
A president MUST try to compromise on everything.
A president MUST be civil.
He has to be all these things that his most avid supporters (or dissenters) DON'T want him to be - because now he's the PRESIDENT. He no longer just votes in the Senate - he's not just representing HIS political VIEW. He now has to consider the entire world.
I imagine a stiff drink at the end of the working day (if it ever ends) isn't even enough to unwind from that - do that for 4 years. . . Put up with everyone's constant childish, self centered and unending bull**** 24/7 for 4 solid years - it's amazing presidents don't commit ****ing suicide.
Imagine if you were in a job-position where you *felt* a certain way - some serious hardcore beliefs - but *had* to put aside your personal feelings, wants and desires *constantly* for the good of people who didn't even LIKE you. . . even if they *did* like you - they don't now because you said ___ or went ___.
You can't make everyone happy. . .and, honestly, he has more important fish to fry than some politically-inept flaky supporters who *only* supported him based on things like: race, a few tidbits of ideology, campaign promises that he never even made.
:shrug:
I don't like him - but I feel bad for him.
I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for the men and women who are giving their lives in Afghanistan for a useless war.
BTW, there are only 66 taliban left in Afghanistan. They now live in Samolia, Yemen, and Pakistan, give or take a few countries, including our own.
This war shall destroy our country if it continues.
obama NEVER said withdrawal from afghanistan was imminent, never.
I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for the men and women who are giving their lives in Afghanistan for a useless war.
This war shall destroy our country if it continues.
I'm not coming from the left, so this might not be the sort of response you're looking for, Obama has been impressing me lately. I'll admit I was dismayed by the slow rate of economy recovery (I don't blame him for getting us into the crisis but I do blame him for not yet getting us out of it), at his bungling of healthcare reform, and his continued failure with the handling of the Gulf oil spill. But as a foreign policy president he couldn't be doing much better. I think it's important that people don't forget how bad things were under Bush, and how much he tarnished our image as a nation. Obama restored our status in the world and then some. Sure, there are some things he could be handling better, like relations with India, but on the whole he gets an A for foreign policy in my book.
I'm not coming from the left, so this might not be the sort of response you're looking for, Obama has been impressing me lately. I'll admit I was dismayed by the slow rate of economy recovery (I don't blame him for getting us into the crisis but I do blame him for not yet getting us out of it), at his bungling of healthcare reform, and his continued failure with the handling of the Gulf oil spill. But as a foreign policy president he couldn't be doing much better. I think it's important that people don't forget how bad things were under Bush, and how much he tarnished our image as a nation. Obama restored our status in the world and then some. Sure, there are some things he could be handling better, like relations with India, but on the whole he gets an A for foreign policy in my book.
An A For Foriegn Policy? How the hell does he get that? Pissing on our Allies and bowing to our Enemies?
BarackObama.com | Remarks of Senator Obama: The War We Need to Win
From the article: "I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office."
A president MUST be decent.
A president MUST be bi-partisan.
A president MUST try to compromise on everything.
A president MUST be civil.
He has to be all these things that his most avid supporters (or dissenters) DON'T want him to be - because now he's the PRESIDENT. He no longer just votes in the Senate - he's not just representing HIS political VIEW. He now has to consider the entire world.
I imagine a stiff drink at the end of the working day (if it ever ends) isn't even enough to unwind from that - do that for 4 years. . . Put up with everyone's constant childish, self centered and unending bull**** 24/7 for 4 solid years - it's amazing presidents don't commit ****ing suicide.
Imagine if you were in a job-position where you *felt* a certain way - some serious hardcore beliefs - but *had* to put aside your personal feelings, wants and desires *constantly* for the good of people who didn't even LIKE you. . . even if they *did* like you - they don't now because you said ___ or went ___.
You can't make everyone happy. . .and, honestly, he has more important fish to fry than some politically-inept flaky supporters who *only* supported him based on things like: race, a few tidbits of ideology, campaign promises that he never even made.
:shrug:
I don't like him - but I feel bad for him.
he's not a war president.
that said, if anyone ever listened to his policy speeches, they would have to admit he was never as "far left" as the left wanted him to be, nor as far left as the right painted him. he's fairly pragmatic, and i think will become moreso during his tenure. he's made mistakes, and has had a big learning curve. but imo, he never made a mistake as grave as our last president, and i am thankful for that.
Why are you people complaining? He is still killing and bombing Arabs and Muslims. You people should be cheering or is that Obama isnt killing them fast enough?
he's not a war president.
that said, if anyone ever listened to his policy speeches, they would have to admit he was never as "far left" as the left wanted him to be, nor as far left as the right painted him. he's fairly pragmatic, and i think will become moreso during his tenure. he's made mistakes, and has had a big learning curve. but imo, he never made a mistake as grave as our last president, and i am thankful for that.
I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for the men and women who are giving their lives in Afghanistan for a useless war.
BTW, there are only 66 taliban left in Afghanistan. They now live in Samolia, Yemen, and Pakistan, give or take a few countries, including our own.
This war shall destroy our country if it continues.
I think that might be due to the medical marijuana legalization and decriminalization movements going on in many states these days. So marijuana might be more directly focused on.The new drug czar that Obama appointed is very disappointing to me. I saw him on a tv interview yesterday where he said he is going to concentrate on "driving while stoned". I don't have a problem with that, per se but it seems like he was more interested in busting pot heads than the other types, such as drunks, over the counter medications, and even legal medications.
I bet you the number in general is alot more then 8% in actuality.He said that 8% of the people tested recently in a crack down were on pot. Since pot stays in your system for at least thirty days how could they actually prove that you had recently smoked it and were impaired by it.
I think all drugs should be acted on accordingly. Some prescription drugs can inhibit ones ability to drive.The part that is really scary is people who take prescription drugs will no longer be allowed to drive. We are talking about a huge percentage of our population.
Agreed.I mean really, who needs another draconian sh!t head for a drug czar on a power trip infringing on our rights to privacy and illegal searches?
Thank you President Obama. Start in Washington DC.:roll:
I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for the men and women who are giving their lives in Afghanistan for a useless war.
BTW, there are only 66 taliban left in Afghanistan. They now live in Samolia, Yemen, and Pakistan, give or take a few countries, including our own.
This war shall destroy our country if it continues.
The new drug czar that Obama appointed is very disappointing to me. I saw him on a tv interview yesterday where he said he is going to concentrate on "driving while stoned". I don't have a problem with that, per se but it seems like he was more interested in busting pot heads than the other types, such as drunks, over the counter medications, and even legal medications.
He said that 8% of the people tested recently in a crack down were on pot. Since pot stays in your system for at least thirty days how could they actually prove that you had recently smoked it and were impaired by it.
The part that is really scary is people who take prescription drugs will no longer be allowed to drive. We are talking about a huge percentage of our population.
I mean really, who needs another draconian sh!t head for a drug czar on a power trip infringing on our rights to privacy and illegal searches?
Thank you President Obama. Start in Washington DC.:roll:
obama NEVER said withdrawal from afghanistan was imminent, never.
BarackObama.com | Remarks of Senator Obama: The War We Need to Win
From the article: "I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office."
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