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Why Is American Teaching So Bad?

Jack Hays

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Here's some sophisticated discussion of America's shortcomings in education.

Why Is American Teaching So Bad? by Jonathan Zimmerman

www.[B]nybooks[/B].com/.../why-american-tea...The New York Review of Books


In 1853, the most important man in nineteenth-century American education gave a speech praising female teachers. Horace Mann was the head of the growing ...

". . . Both of these episodes are recounted by Dana Goldstein in The Teacher Wars, her impressive new history of teachers in the United States. For two centuries, as Goldstein makes clear, Americans have simultaneously lauded teachers’ moral virtue and deplored their lack of adequate knowledge and skills. But debate over teaching has shifted sharply over the past two decades, when public education became much more narrowly academic in focus and purpose. Thanks to the No Child Left Behind law passed under the Bush administration in 2001, schools are now rewarded or penalized based on their students’ performance on standardized tests. More recently, the federal Race to the Top program sponsored by the Obama administration encouraged schools to use students’ test scores in evaluating individual teachers. The primary responsibility of teachers is no longer to encourage good behavior in future citizens, as Horace Mann insisted. Instead, it’s to ensure that they get the right answers on a high-stakes test.


The shift in goals has unfortunately done nothing to alter the tedious, anti-intellectual practices of American teaching. If anything, the strong commitment to “academic” goals has probably made teaching less academic—so far as the quality of learning is concerned—and more routinized than it was before. When teachers were hired for their inborn ability to “nurture” schoolchildren, many derided or disregarded their intellectual capacities. Now we’ve created a system that is so firmly tied to scholastic achievement—as narrowly defined by standardized tests—that no serious scholar would want to teach in it. . . ."
 
I blame parents. Expecting the state to provide all of a child's education and life skills is commie.
 
I think our education system needs a serious overhaul. I do not think teachers are the problem. I think we do an excellent job of offering an education to every citizen and overall the quality of the education is superior to most countries but we still need to change with the times.

I think we have a lot of major issues that are not even being addressed.

First and most important we cannot expect our children to learn a lot more than we learned in the same amount of time. To accomplish more takes more time. I think the summers off to tend the fields or harvest the crops is no longer necessary. I remember how hard it was to get back in the swing of things after so much time off. I think there should be more short breaks but children should go to school year round the same as parents work. If parents want to vacation in the winter, spring, or fall with their children is should not disrupt their education. I think breaks the way they do in college makes more sense today.

Second. The idea all children learn at the same rate at a given age is ludicrous. A child who needs more time at 7 to learn science than another child the same age is not a failure. If a child needs more time we make more time available for them. Teachers need to make this call. Put children together that are moving along quickly and let them advance but for the ones who need 2 hours to learn, make the time available. Failing the child does not solve the problem. Moving them on with a minimal grade only makes it harder at the next level. Every child will not be an Einstein but the vast majority should be able to graduate with quality education and even move on to college.

Third. I wish a four year basic college was free for everyone who can make the grade. A high school diploma was an excellent education for my grandparents but it far from even adequate today. We have the money. Instead of another 50 years of ridiculous wars we need to spend the money educating our children, repairing our infrastructure, and making this country great again.

Just my opinion.
 
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I blame parents. Expecting the state to provide all of a child's education and life skills is commie.

I think the majority of parents want their child to get a good education. Remember parents cannot teach what they themselves do not know. When I asked my parents for help with my high school homework they were not able to help because I had surpassed their level of schooling.
 
I think the majority of parents want their child to get a good education. Remember parents cannot teach what they themselves do not know. When I asked my parents for help with my high school homework the were not able because I had passed their level of schooling.

We don't blame them for that?
 
Here's some sophisticated discussion of America's shortcomings in education.

Why Is American Teaching So Bad? by Jonathan Zimmerman

www.[B]nybooks[/B].com/.../why-american-tea...The New York Review of Books


In 1853, the most important man in nineteenth-century American education gave a speech praising female teachers. Horace Mann was the head of the growing ...

". . . Both of these episodes are recounted by Dana Goldstein in The Teacher Wars, her impressive new history of teachers in the United States. For two centuries, as Goldstein makes clear, Americans have simultaneously lauded teachers’ moral virtue and deplored their lack of adequate knowledge and skills. But debate over teaching has shifted sharply over the past two decades, when public education became much more narrowly academic in focus and purpose. Thanks to the No Child Left Behind law passed under the Bush administration in 2001, schools are now rewarded or penalized based on their students’ performance on standardized tests. More recently, the federal Race to the Top program sponsored by the Obama administration encouraged schools to use students’ test scores in evaluating individual teachers. The primary responsibility of teachers is no longer to encourage good behavior in future citizens, as Horace Mann insisted. Instead, it’s to ensure that they get the right answers on a high-stakes test.


The shift in goals has unfortunately done nothing to alter the tedious, anti-intellectual practices of American teaching. If anything, the strong commitment to “academic” goals has probably made teaching less academic—so far as the quality of learning is concerned—and more routinized than it was before. When teachers were hired for their inborn ability to “nurture” schoolchildren, many derided or disregarded their intellectual capacities. Now we’ve created a system that is so firmly tied to scholastic achievement—as narrowly defined by standardized tests—that no serious scholar would want to teach in it. . . ."

Schools are over administered and those administrators adapt policies that prevent educators from being able to effectively address issues, particularly behavior issues. School systems that are starting to approach discipline issues along the lines of restorative justice thinking as opposed to no tolerance policies are starting to make a good show at picking up some of the underlying student issues and turning them constructively toward helping the at-risk kids to start achieving better.
 
I think the majority of parents want their child to get a good education. Remember parents cannot teach what they themselves do not know. When I asked my parents for help with my high school homework they were not able to help because I had surpassed their level of schooling.

We don't blame them for that?

The article goes on at some length concerning teachers' lack of subject matter knowledge.
 
I think the majority of parents want their child to get a good education. Remember parents cannot teach what they themselves do not know. When I asked my parents for help with my high school homework they were not able to help because I had surpassed their level of schooling.

Parents, for the most part, are never taught how to teach. One can now how to program a computer, rebuild an automobile engine or build a house yet not know how to teach someone else to do so.

And that brings us to the saddest fact of all: most of our teachers don’t possess a deep working knowledge of any discipline, at least not in the way that good teaching demands. Perhaps the teachers of very small children do not need the same mastery of a discipline as their counterparts in middle and high schools. But surely they need a deep and theoretically sophisticated understanding of the ways that children learn. Even the teaching of so-called simple arithmetic turns out to be an immensely complicated endeavor, but most of our teachers do not treat it as such. Part of that failing has to do with the lack of constructive collaboration inside our schools, where teachers work almost entirely in isolation.


By contrast, many other advanced countries have institutionalized critical commentary by peers and also provide intellectual support to improve skills and learning as part of teachers’ professional practice. Japanese teachers even have a separate word for this process, jugyokenkyu, which is built into their weekly routines. All teachers have designated periods to observe each other’s classes, study curriculum, and otherwise hone their craft. But they also learn a great deal in their pre-service training, which is both more rigorous and more demanding concerning particular subject matter than anything American teacher-education students are likely to encounter.

In Finland, which has become something of an international star in education reform circles, students of education take carefully constructed courses in the subject they will teach; they then spend a full year apprenticing in a school, receiving regular feedback from several mentors; and finally, they research and write an original thesis on a scholarly trend or controversy within their fields.1 Their preparation is much more intellectually sophisticated—and also more “practical”—than the standard teacher-education program in the United States.
 
Here's some sophisticated discussion of America's shortcomings in education.

Why Is American Teaching So Bad? by Jonathan Zimmerman

www.[B]nybooks[/B].com/.../why-american-tea...The New York Review of Books


In 1853, the most important man in nineteenth-century American education gave a speech praising female teachers. Horace Mann was the head of the growing ...

". . . Both of these episodes are recounted by Dana Goldstein in The Teacher Wars, her impressive new history of teachers in the United States. For two centuries, as Goldstein makes clear, Americans have simultaneously lauded teachers’ moral virtue and deplored their lack of adequate knowledge and skills. But debate over teaching has shifted sharply over the past two decades, when public education became much more narrowly academic in focus and purpose. Thanks to the No Child Left Behind law passed under the Bush administration in 2001, schools are now rewarded or penalized based on their students’ performance on standardized tests. More recently, the federal Race to the Top program sponsored by the Obama administration encouraged schools to use students’ test scores in evaluating individual teachers. The primary responsibility of teachers is no longer to encourage good behavior in future citizens, as Horace Mann insisted. Instead, it’s to ensure that they get the right answers on a high-stakes test.


The shift in goals has unfortunately done nothing to alter the tedious, anti-intellectual practices of American teaching. If anything, the strong commitment to “academic” goals has probably made teaching less academic—so far as the quality of learning is concerned—and more routinized than it was before. When teachers were hired for their inborn ability to “nurture” schoolchildren, many derided or disregarded their intellectual capacities. Now we’ve created a system that is so firmly tied to scholastic achievement—as narrowly defined by standardized tests—that no serious scholar would want to teach in it. . . ."

Are you proposing behavior tested means?
 
I'm not sure the main problem is centered on the teaching alone? Parents, along with their expectation of children being taught in a way that is easy and pleasing, goes against the nature of 'output' equals excelling. My father's generation were pressured into higher standards and were taught courses years earlier than what I experienced decades later. Many kids graduate now unable to do basic grammar, spelling and simple math.
 
First and most important we cannot expect our children to learn a lot more than we learned in the same amount of time. To accomplish more takes more time. I think the summers off to tend the fields or harvest the crops is no longer necessary. I remember how hard it was to get back in the swing of things after so much time off. I think there should be more short breaks but children should go to school year round the same as parents work. If parents want to vacation in the winter, spring, or fall with their children is should not disrupt their education. I think breaks the way they do in college makes more sense today.

You'd have to pay the teachers a lot more, since so many of them rely on summer work to get by. So you want to raise taxes? That's why it won't happen, because it's not politically viable. Even the janitors, bus drivers, and cooks would have to be paid more. Low teacher salary is really at the crux of the problem to begin with. If teachers were paid $60k+ a year, you'd start to see engineers and whatnot going into teaching instead.


Second. The idea all children learn at the same rate at a given age is ludicrous. A child who needs more time at 7 to learn science than another child the same age is not a failure. If a child needs more time we make more time available for them. Teachers need to make this call. Put children together that are moving along quickly and let them advance but for the ones who need 2 hours to learn, make the time available. Failing the child does not solve the problem. Moving them on with a minimal grade only makes it harder at the next level. Every child will not be an Einstein but the vast majority should be able to graduate with quality education and even move on to college.

This i agree with completely. American teaching is "bad" because it fails everyone. There's not enough time for them to tutor every kid who needs it, when they've also got to keep the smart kids awake. K-12 classes are an absurd range of academic potential. The bright kids hardly need "study hall" that is so loud no work can possibly get done. The sheer waste of time is staggering. They shouldn't have to deal with the burnout bullies either.
 
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Exactly. Let's not pretend to care about the children or their education, when we're so cheap about it.

Most of my teachers had to coach the sports teams as well to make a living, and what do you think they were really devoted to? My 6th grade teacher would abandon us *during class*, driving off to the high school to visit his football players. He'd watch game film in class, never made a parent-teacher conference, and frankly all of these coaches masquerading as teachers were terrible.
 
I blame parents. Expecting the state to provide all of a child's education and life skills is commie.

Single moms working two jobs tend to rely on school to babysit. It's unfortunate that our most poor and least educated also have a disproportionate number of kids.
 
Single moms working two jobs tend to rely on school to babysit. It's unfortunate that our most poor and least educated also have a disproportionate number of kids.

It's not unfortunate, it's their fault.
 
Teachers are not the problem........funding is not the problem........it's the changing demographics in this country that is the problem
 
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