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Why I'm done with religious threads

Hey tucker have you ever looked into Joseph Campbell and the power of Myth?
 
In all honesty I often do feel intellectually superior to many ardent religious folks. Like any other category of folks religion has no shortage of daft mofos. But just as every once in a while a real creepy bugger scares the piss out of you with their religious insanity you also on rare occasion meet someone kinda cool who makes you feel defunct for being a non-believer.
 
In all honesty I often do feel intellectually superior to many ardent religious folks. Like any other category of folks religion has no shortage of daft mofos. But just as every once in a while a real creepy bugger scares the piss out of you with their religious insanity you also on rare occasion meet someone kinda cool who makes you feel defunct for being a non-believer.
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In all honesty I often feel intellectually superior to just about everyone I meet. Its probably a defense mechanism to help me cope with a deep seated inferiority complex.

Or it could be that I really am just that awesome.:cool:
 
Joe1991 said:
Please continue to whine. It helps bolster my case. :2wave:
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Honestly, all you are doing is making yourself into a caricature of everything he described your type as being. :shrug:
 
Joe1991 said:
Please continue to whine. It helps bolster my case. :2wave:
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Actually, it doesn't. I'm pretty areligious really. I don't belong to any particular faith, at best maybe just calling myself a generic christian. I'm more a agnostic diest if I really had to stretch to put a specific term on me. I don't know what I do for your case, or if I'm even "whining". I don't have a problem with athiests, nor think they're any less welcome or more correct than religious folks. I really don't care. I just find the pompous jackassery in regards to religion by many of them on this site seems to mirror the common stereotype that they attempt to paint onto many religious people. They are much like rabid libertarians, so profoundly wound up in their belief that they are so vastly superior to everyone that they can't see past their own noses to realize they're basically just acting like a bunch of assholes on the subject. I don't rightly care, as the pathetic little mocking of religion is more amusing than anything else, as it doesn't really bother any of my beliefs...few they may be...and more is just an interesting case study of the douchery and elitist superiority through overinflated ego that can be shown from both sides, and more often then not by the athiest side of things on this forum.
 
Tucker Case said:
Never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.
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Seriously, he gives the most powerful argument for God that I believe there is. Funny, many atheists seem to think he's doing just the opposite.
 
Zyphlin said:
I really don't care. I just find the pompous jackassery in regards to religion by many of them on this site seems to mirror the common stereotype that they attempt to paint onto many religious people. They are much like rabid libertarians, so profoundly wound up in their belief that they are so vastly superior to everyone that they can't see past their own noses to realize they're basically just acting like a bunch of assholes on the subject. I don't rightly care, as the pathetic little mocking of religion is more amusing than anything else, as it doesn't really bother any of my beliefs...few they may be...and more is just an interesting case study of the douchery and elitist superiority through overinflated ego that can be shown from both sides, and more often then not by the athiest side of things on this forum.
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The same folks who would get wound up over some light Christian bashing would be first in line to bash gay marriage, fat wiccan women howling at the moon, those suffering PTSD from alien abductions, etc.

I guess I don't see what makes Christianity or any other religion anymore special or more worthy of respect than a documentary on bigfoot or the loch ness monster.

At the end of the day respect is more meaningful when it has been earned. I see no reason to treat religion with kid gloves. You wouldn't call folks immature assholes if they laughed their asses off at the idea of fairies living in the garden. Just because there are far fewer believing in garden fairies vs those embracing some religious dogma doesn't make the dogma anymore credible or respectable. If that makes me an ass, so be it.
 
talloulou said:
The same folks who would get wound up over some light Christian bashing would be first in line to bash gay marriage, fat wiccan women howling at the moon, those suffering PTSD from alien abductions, etc.

I guess I don't see what makes Christianity or any other religion anymore special or more worthy of respect than a documentary on bigfoot or the loch ness monster.

At the end of the day respect is more meaningful when it has been earned. I see no reason to treat religion with kid gloves. You wouldn't call folks immature assholes if they laughed their asses off at the idea of fairies living in the garden. Just because there are far fewer believing in garden fairies vs those embracing some religious dogma doesn't make the dogma anymore credible or respectable. If that makes me an ass, so be it.
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No, it makes you a generalizing bigot.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
No, it makes you a generalizing bigot.
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Taking cheap shots at gays isn't a common theme in most dogmatic religions? hee hee. Next you'll aim to convince me that misogyny also isn't a common dogmatic theme. :roll:

In order for something to become a stereotype there first has to be some general truth involved.
 
talloulou said:
The same folks who ...
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I won't call you a bigot, but I tend to get my panties in a bunch over generalizations based upon vague references. Name names.
 
talloulou said:
I guess I don't see what makes Christianity or any other religion anymore special or more worthy of respect than a documentary on bigfoot or the loch ness monster.
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There is no reason.

You should have seen the post about the Pope. We had even more moderators weighing in on the ethics of bashing a person who claims they communicate with the supernatural, are infallible...and collects red shoes (or shall we say, ruby slippers). The horror.

The fact that religion is fiction, basically sets it up from the start as being "not debate-able". On a debate forum, go figure. Then again, why a person with faith would open their beliefs up to debate, is also contradictory. Then going on to cry for attention about the responses they incite, on an open debate forum, well it's not surprising there isn't much constructive to suggest other than, grow up.

Religion isn't knowledge, it's not a science, it's not falsifiable. It's oddly not in science class, it's not seriously taught in public schools. Was all this by accident? Or because we hate religion? No, it's just not about reality. How could any reasonable individual wonder why they can't get a serious debate about it.
 
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Oftencold said:
I generally enjoy honest discussion of religious issues.

However, I have come to feel that most religious topics here are created to antagonize our people of faith.

While an argumentative discourse about politics can certainly inspire anger and offense, to the religious person, matters of faith will almost always be far more important and far more personal than political issues, and so the emotional potential generally greater.

Since it seems that so many of those hostile to religion wish to exploit this emotional sensitivity, I have decided to disoblige them, and allow them to find amusement without my cooperation.

Therefore, I will avoid purely religious discussions henceforth.
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Strangly enough, that's why I love the religious forum....and the abortion forum, for that matter...I guess I'm looking for a fight.
 
talloulou said:
The same folks who would get wound up over some light Christian bashing would be first in line to bash gay marriage, fat wiccan women howling at the moon, those suffering PTSD from alien abductions, etc.

I guess I don't see what makes Christianity or any other religion anymore special or more worthy of respect than a documentary on bigfoot or the loch ness monster.

At the end of the day respect is more meaningful when it has been earned. I see no reason to treat religion with kid gloves. You wouldn't call folks immature assholes if they laughed their asses off at the idea of fairies living in the garden. Just because there are far fewer believing in garden fairies vs those embracing some religious dogma doesn't make the dogma anymore credible or respectable. If that makes me an ass, so be it.
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Bzzzzz Buzword Bingo anyone?
 
Mach said:
How could any reasonable individual wonder why they can't get a serious debate about it.
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Yet another case in point. Re-read the OP. Oftencold says he enjoys honest discussion/debate that happens elsewhere. the thing is, it just tends not to happen here, at DP.

Example: Like just now, when you made the topic be about something else, and kinda/sorta changed the jist.

"why they can't get a serious debate about it"

- does not equal -

"i'm done with it here because i'm not getting an honest debate here"
 
Nope, only among religious generalizing bigots...

Which isn't all of us.
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He's right. Not all of us generalizing bigots are religious.:2wave:
 
niftydrifty said:
I won't call you a bigot, but I tend to get my panties in a bunch over generalizations based upon vague references. Name names.
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Name names? Any religion. All religions. How is anyone supposed to take any of them seriously????? Not a one of them has any sort of credible collaborative evidence supporting their dogma. To whine and complain that religion isn't taken seriously or that it is mocked is rather pointless.

Why shouldn't it be mocked? On what basis should any non-believer respect any believers creed when there is not a single logical rational shred of evidence that there is a God or Gods?

I have a huge interest in aliens and all things alien. But I don't run around expecting others to have serious discussions with me on the topic of little green men killing cattle and anal probing humans.

If religious folks want respect in regards to their religious ideologies they are going to have to earn it with some credible evidence. Till such time it's completely appropriate and expected that their "notions" be treated just as any other whacked out illogical theories with no credible evidence on anything else are treated.

Religion is not special.
 
talloulou said:
If religious folks want respect in regards to their religious ideologies they are going to have to earn it with some credible evidence. Till such time it's completely appropriate and expected that their "notions" be treated just as any other whacked out illogical theories with no credible evidence on anything else are treated.

Religion is not special.
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If they put forward credible evidence, who would take the time to listen? I would bet the anti-religious crowd would decry any evidence as contrived rubbish. The bottom line is no one is going to be forcibly converted to a religion, and if they could, what would be the point?
 
theangryamerican said:
If they put forward credible evidence, who would take the time to listen? I would bet the anti-religious crowd would decry any evidence as contrived rubbish. The bottom line is no one is going to be forcibly converted to a religion, and if they could, what would be the point?
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I'm fairly certain if there were credible evidence of a God or Gods it would peak folks interests.

But there's not.

So I say religion ought to be knocked off its pedestal. Searching for God ought to be as mock worthy as searching for proof that some of the ancients were aliens. Doesn't mean you should give up the hobby, lose interest in something you find intriguing, or feel deterred in pursuing your "ideas" for the sake of society. But you do need to give up the holier than thou act and get over yourself. Till there's some proof of a God or Gods it's all just fun and games. A hobby. Interesting in the same way Battlestar Galactica is interesting. Thought provoking for sure. Above being laughed at? Um, no.
 
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I really don't care about "God" if he he wants to be vengeful so be it. And I also believe there is life out there in the universe.
 
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