RichardElderton
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I am curious as to why people despise socialism and Communism so much. I have my own reasons, but I would rather not post them until I hear from others, lest I corrupt their thought process with the power of suggestion.
I am curious as to why people despise socialism and Communism so much. I have my own reasons, but I would rather not post them until I hear from others, lest I corrupt their thought process with the power of suggestion.
I am curious as to why people despise socialism and Communism so much. I have my own reasons, but I would rather not post them until I hear from others, lest I corrupt their thought process with the power of suggestion.
I'm free to vote communist, socialist, conservative or nationalist, or not. How many choices did you have at the last election?
I'm free to vote communist, socialist, conservative or nationalist, or not. How many choices did you have at the last election?
If communism is so good why did it fail? Why durning the cold war did communist nations keep build walls to keep their people there? Why is the whole world trying to come here?
Well, by gosh, I don't suppose it would have anything to do with the coercive aspects of it, could it? Or the many tens of millions killed by communists in the 20th century? Or how in practice it tends to result in tyranny and totalitarianism and poverty?
Nah, couldn't be.
How about people like to be free.
There's not one damn thing good about it.
I'd rather be free and starving than live under Communism.
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Right, some random site with no sources and no author page is DEFINITELY the best source about communist philosophy
I am curious as to why people despise socialism and Communism so much. I have my own reasons, but I would rather not post them until I hear from others, lest I corrupt their thought process with the power of suggestion.
fans of communism and socialism constantly defend those putrid concepts by pretending that every society that abuses human rights isn't really communist or socialist the fact that these systems never can work in reality is as damning an argument possibleYour simplistic worldview continually amazes me. Clear cut sides of black and white. It is not the philosophies themselves, especially not communism, the purest form of which, Marxism, dictates all that all people should have basic human rights, freedoms of speech, fair trial, et. al. The reason it fails is that it is not actually implemented. "Communism" usually comes in the period of turmoil after a revolution, and a power hungry egomaniac steps in, takes over, and creates a dictatorship, calling it communism. There has never been a true communist society. Except maybe in Cuba, where while conditions are still bad, they have improved greatly since Batista was overthrown.
Socialism, or as Earth the Book called it, Communism Lite, is a completely different story. It clearly works (look at all of Western Europe). Those countries are the happiest, richest, and least corrupt on the planet (Please don't use the "Then move there" line). They have a better education than we do. They have many advantages over us. And because they operate under democratic socialism. You also have to remember all that socialism has given you. The direct reason you can join a union and have all the benefits you have is because of socialism.
And btw, you liked ADG's reply clearly with out understanding it because he says that we should have "a socialist structure alongside" are already capitalist system.
One last thing: Before anyone brings China into this, they ARE NOT COMMUNIST! They are totalitarian capitalism.
fans of communism and socialism constantly defend those putrid concepts by pretending that every society that abuses human rights isn't really communist or socialist the fact that these systems never can work in reality is as damning an argument possible
communism is a disease that appeals to losers and those who scheme to become rich and powerful by using communism to loot wealth from others and control the weak minded. socialism is merely herpes while communism is Aids
fans of communism and socialism constantly defend those putrid concepts by pretending that every society that abuses human rights isn't really communist or socialist the fact that these systems never can work in reality is as damning an argument possible
communism is a disease that appeals to losers and those who scheme to become rich and powerful by using communism to loot wealth from others and control the weak minded. socialism is merely herpes while communism is Aids
You're totally ****ing wrong you know that don't you? The only reason communism didn't work, is because the communists of today weren't in charge. If only it had been them, we'd be in paradise.
This exact thing happens in capitalism but replace government with corporation. Uneducated (in the formal and informal sense of the word) people are always taken advantage of by the rich and powerful.
I certainly don't intend to debate the perversion of communism by Stalinism with you. Suffice it to say communism hasn't been tried yet. Neither have many ideological concepts such as free trade, libertarianism or anarchism, they've all still got their adherents.
Why is the whole world trying to come here? Well we've got a proper pluralistic democracy is why. You can vote left, centre or right. We've also got beautiful beaches, mountains and historic Roman, Cathaginian, Moorish and medieval Christian cities, a vibrant culture and the finest wines produced anywhere in the world. Of course people want to come.
Your simplistic worldview continually amazes me. Clear cut sides of black and white. It is not the philosophies themselves, especially not communism, the purest form of which, Marxism, dictates all that all people should have basic human rights, freedoms of speech, fair trial, et. al. The reason it fails is that it is not actually implemented. "Communism" usually comes in the period of turmoil after a revolution, and a power hungry egomaniac steps in, takes over, and creates a dictatorship, calling it communism. There has never been a true communist society. Except maybe in Cuba, where while conditions are still bad, they have improved greatly since Batista was overthrown.
Socialism, or as Earth the Book called it, Communism Lite, is a completely different story. It clearly works (look at all of Western Europe). Those countries are the happiest, richest, and least corrupt on the planet (Please don't use the "Then move there" line). They have a better education than we do. They have many advantages over us. And because they operate under democratic socialism. You also have to remember all that socialism has given you. The direct reason you can join a union and have all the benefits you have is because of socialism.
And btw, you liked ADG's reply clearly with out understanding it because he says that we should have "a socialist structure alongside" are already capitalist system.
One last thing: Before anyone brings China into this, they ARE NOT COMMUNIST! They are totalitarian capitalism.
This exact thing happens in capitalism but replace government with corporation. Uneducated (in the formal and informal sense of the word) people are always taken advantage of by the rich and powerful.
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