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When I first heard people say the rebels in Syria were responsible for the recent gas attack I was skeptical but I am hearing and reading more and more about this and I am changing my mind. They may have done it on purpose to get the US to be their air force or it may have been accidental but either way I think there is a good chance they are the culprits here.
[LEFT"]Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.[/LEFT]Image: YouTube
“From numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families….many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the (deadly) gas attack,” writes Gavlak. (back up version here).Rebels told Gavlak that they were not properly trained on how to handle the chemical weapons or even told what they were. It appears as though the weapons were initially supposed to be given to the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra.“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” one militant named ‘J’ told Gavlak.His claims are echoed by another female fighter named ‘K’, who told Gavlak, “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”
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The idea of Saudi Arabia giving Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda is.......
..... I find it.... how to put this.... "not credible". Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
There are other theories that the rebels got the weapons when they over ran some gov installations earlier in this war.
That is... more credible than the notion that the Saudi government is behind any CW capability that finds its' way into rebel hands.
And also why I said two years ago that we should take action to prevent such from occurring.
That is... more credible than the notion that the Saudi government is behind any CW capability that finds its' way into rebel hands.
And also why I said two years ago that we should take action to prevent such from occurring.
When you're a hammer, everything else is a nail.
I can't say I know who did the attack or how the rebels might have gotten the gas if it was them. This is the a reason why action is difficult to support.
The idea of Saudi Arabia giving Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda is.......
..... I find it.... how to put this.... "not credible". Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
:shrug: I wouldn't know about a hammer/nail bit. I advocated different policies in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. In Syria I said at the beginning and continue to say now that we should take action to degrade their IADS C2, secure their CW stockpiles, and provide cover to fleeing civilians. In Libya I was in favor of regime change, and in Iraq I thought (and still think) that winning the post-fight to demonstrate an Arab-Democracy model was a strategic necessity. I supported the Presidents' policy towards Libya, and were I in Congress now, would be voting in favor of granting him the measures he has asked for.
As for how the rebels would get ahold of gas - stealing from the Syrian regime is (I would suspect) far more plausible than a Saudi regime so blind to its' own self-interest as to give them that capability.
It's okay. It's highly likely that Castro gassed himself before he participated in the hanging. Either way, he's culpable and I think a small missile attack on his dead body is appropriate just to send a message.from the thread title, thought this was about the ariel castro 'suicide'
nevermind
:shrug: I wouldn't know about a hammer/nail bit. I advocated different policies in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. In Syria I said at the beginning and continue to say now that we should take action to degrade their IADS C2, secure their CW stockpiles, and provide cover to fleeing civilians. In Libya I was in favor of regime change, and in Iraq I thought (and still think) that winning the post-fight to demonstrate an Arab-Democracy model was a strategic necessity. I supported the Presidents' policy towards Libya, and were I in Congress now, would be voting in favor of granting him the measures he has asked for.
As for how the rebels would get ahold of gas - stealing from the Syrian regime is (I would suspect) far more plausible than a Saudi regime so blind to its' own self-interest as to give them that capability.
Russia Dismisses U.S. Evidence of Chemical-Weapons Use by Assad Regime - WSJ.com... "That which our American partners have shown us both in the past and recently…absolutely has not convinced us," Mr. Lavrov said.
"There are no facts, there is just dialogue about 'what we know for sure,'" Mr. Lavrov said. "And when we ask for more detailed confirmation, they say, 'You know, it's all secret, so we can't show you.' That means such facts aren't there." ...
yea, kerry so convinces me with this argument - about evidence he is yet to be able to reveal"I think the evidence is going to be overwhelming. If the president of Russia chooses yet again to ignore it, that's his choice," Mr. Kerry said.
This looks more like the puppet-masters at work.
Iraq is done. Afghanistan is coming to an end. Without a war, we won't need more extremely expensive weapons. The "job creators" will lose revenue. So, isn't this convenient?
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but there seems to be some odd consistencies between each and every Administration. No matter the party, we always have to have a little warfare going on so....the "job creators" won't suffer.
What a bunch of tools (and fools) we elect.
Our classified assessments have been shared with the U.S. Congress and key international partners. To protect sources and methods, we cannot publicly release all available intelligence – but what follows is an unclassified summary of the U.S. Intelligence Community’s analysis of what took place...
We have intelligence that leads us to assess that Syrian chemical weapons personnel – including personnel assessed to be associated with the SSRC – were preparing chemical munitions prior to the attack. In the three days prior to the attack, we collected streams of human, signals and geospatial intelligence that reveal regime activities that we assess were associated with preparations for a chemical weapons attack.
Syrian chemical weapons personnel were operating in the Damascus suburb of ‘Adra from Sunday, August 18 until early in the morning on Wednesday, August 21 near an area that the regime uses to mix chemical weapons, including sarin. On August 21, a Syrian regime element prepared for a chemical weapons attack in the Damascus area, including through the utilization of gas masks. Our intelligence sources in the Damascus area did not detect any indications in the days prior to the attack that opposition affiliates were planning to use chemical weapons...
Multiple streams of intelligence indicate that the regime executed a rocket and artillery attack against the Damascus suburbs in the early hours of August 21. Satellite detections corroborate that attacks from a regime-controlled area struck neighborhoods where the chemical attacks reportedly occurred – including Kafr Batna, Jawbar, ‘Ayn Tarma, Darayya, and Mu’addamiyah. This includes the detection of rocket launches from regime controlled territory early in the morning, approximately 90 minutes before the first report of a chemical attack appeared in social media. The lack of flight activity or missile launches also leads us to conclude that the regime used rockets in the attack...
To conclude, there is a substantial body of information that implicates the Syrian government’s responsibility in the chemical weapons attack that took place on August 21.As indicated, there is additional intelligence that remains classified because of sources and methods concerns that is being provided to Congress and international partners.
The idea of Saudi Arabia giving Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda is.......
..... I find it.... how to put this.... "not credible". Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
Why? The terrorists responsible for 9/11/2001 were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Yemen; not one of them was from Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan - yet where is the U.S. "war on terror" being waged?. The beauty of supplying or supporting "international terrorists" is that no linkage is likely to be made to any particular "state sponsor" even if it is obvious by the massive cheering in the streets that occurs after a terrorist attack. Who would be blamed for the actions a rebel or "freedom fighter" in Syria that happened to be using a weapon "stolen" from whatever source? Pakistan proudly housed UBL for years yet is said to be a "friendly" (or at least neutral) nation, later locking up the doctor that helped us to kill him and yet still gets our foreign aid. Egypts elected president is ousted by the military yet that was not "officially" a coup. The only given in our foreign policy is its inconsistancy.
This looks more like the puppet-masters at work.
Iraq is done. Afghanistan is coming to an end. Without a war, we won't need more extremely expensive weapons. The "job creators" will lose revenue. So, isn't this convenient?
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but there seems to be some odd consistencies between each and every Administration. No matter the party, we always have to have a little warfare going on
Yeah, a lot of the info I've heard corroborates what you're saying. Such as experienced forces launching the chemicals at night to increase the staying power, while novices would launch during the daytime, and also the attacks were all in contested territory.
Those kinds of weapons are not so non-attributable as you might imagine. Furthermore, Saudi Arabia is probably more concerned about the Al-Qaeda elements in Syria than we are. When those guys go home after the war is over, they aren't coming home to Newark, after all.
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