White libs, race traitors & multiculturalists

[JustineCredible]

I would be interested in some examples of how the races are unequal, just saying so does not make it so, so please, enlighten me.

I understand that some races seem more designed for the environment in which they are born, and this may lead one to believe they may be better at certain things, or hold an advantage. I just don't believe that one race has an advantage over another, but there is something to be said about a pure race. I have noticed that pure unmixed races seem to be more intelligent, or more apt to learning. I have noticed this in Asians, Indians(M.E) and others, but I was never sure my assumptions were correct.

Well I woudn't be so sure of "unmixed" races, per se. There was a great article in Scientific America about a year ago that actually showed just how mixed almost all races actually are.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

of course, but race doesn't play a part in it.

Why shouldn`t it?
If you accept the notion that abilities and defects can and are inherited through a family line then why is this not true of a race that shares a common ancestry?

 

[JustineCredible]

Why shouldn`t it?
If you accept the notion that abilities and defects can and are inherited through a family line then why is this not true of a race that shares a common ancestry?

The problem is that most races are NOT pure. Sure, it's nearly impossible to find a "white" person with sicle cell anemia, but it's not unheard of. Why? Because races simply aren't pure.

I'll find that article and link it for you all.

 

[Deegan]

Do you subscribe to the view that individuals are of varying merits with different abilities and handicaps and that this is to a large extent inherited?

I do and I don't. I have seen some people in the same family that have trouble with certain things, while another seems to be very gifted. I don't know how I would explain that, but it is certainly a fact I have witnessed on more then one occasion. I also don't think that this is something that I would consider too carefully when considering a mate. What I mean is, I don't ask someone I am attracted to, to submit to an intelligence test before I would consider having a child with them. I also would not use race as a measure to determine my feelings for another, only if they are compatible with me, and a strong bond was present. I can understand someone who may feel those things are most important, I guess that's just not my way of choosing my relationships.

I would just think that one is limiting ones self if he/she has to always consider these things before taking the next step. I also don't think perfection is something anyone of us can obtain, and that would be a great disappointment to anyone who tried.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

very true, most drastic differences in intellect you see in an average human are almost always attributed to culture and family.

but the minor differences in intellect can be attributed to genetics.

Then why do negroes who share the same education systems as Aryans[whites] and Asians fare far worse academically in comparison?
Why is it that despite decades of "equal rights" the negro in the USA has still not advanced himself except when he is given unfair advantages over others?In Europe it is called "positive discrimination"!
Why is it that despite all the natural wealth of Africa the negro has never been able to scrape anything beyond a subsistence living within Africa and has never contributed towards the technological,cultural or scientific advancement of mankind?

 

[nkgupta80]

because such differences in intellect or mental capability has neevr been detected. And when it is detected, it is easily attributed to genetics that transcends race. Why is it deemed to transcend race? Because such genetic differences are found in all races. Secondly, culture and how you raise the kids plays a much much greater part in one's capabilities than genetics. The only difference I've ever felt when I am with my asian or white friends is that I don't get sunburn as often...

 

[Aryan Imperium]

I do and I don't. I have seen some people in the same family that have trouble with certain things, while another seems to be very gifted. I don't know how I would explain that, but it is certainly a fact I have witnessed on more then one occasion. I also don't think that this is something that I would consider too carefully when considering a mate. What I mean is, I don't ask someone I am attracted to, to submit to an intelligence test before I would consider having a child with them. I also would not use race a measure to determine my feelings for another, only if they are compatible with me, and a strong bond was present. I can understand someone who may feel those things are most important, I guess that's just not my way of choosing my relationships.

I would just think that one is limiting ones self if he/she has to always consider these things before taking the next step. I also don't think perfection is something anyone of us can obtain, and that would be a great disappointment to anyone who tried.

Is it not strange that we take great care over how and with whom our animals,both domestic and farming should mate with yet give scant regard for human breeding selection?
Is it not also strange that the Nordic female is and always has been the measure of beauty amongst females all over the world?

 

[Aryan Imperium]

because such differences in intellect or mental capability has neevr been detected. And when it is detected, it is easily attributed to genetics that transcends race. Why is it deemed to transcend race? Because such genetic differences are found in all races. Secondly, culture and how you raise the kids plays a much much greater part in one's capabilities than genetics. The only difference I've ever felt when I am with my asian or white friends is that I don't get sunburn as often...

Read this site;it will answer your questions.

http://www.americancivilrightsreview.com/african101facts1.html

 

[nkgupta80]

Asians fare far worse academically in comparison?

Hahahaha that is a perfect example of how culture plays a role. Where I live in Texas there is a large asian/indian population (still the minority... i think we make up 5% or something of the populatino in this area). We practically dominate all academic competitions (esp in math and science). Almost all asians in our school district are in the top 10% and about 50% of the top 20 are always asian/indian. 2 of the three valedictorians in my town this year were asian. Are you attributing this to genetic superiority? No it is culture. The average americans don't place as much stress on school as do asians. In Europe, there may not be that academic culture inherent in the Asian populations. I saw that when I visited one of my family friends in germany (he is indian). His parents didn't place much stress on his education so he does average in school.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

I don't particularly agree with that. Intelligence, by the definition of being able to comprehend and apply new concepts, is to a large degree associated with development, not with genetics. The reason dumb asses breed dumb asses is because they raise them like dumb asses.
And saying anything to apply to all of a race is just absolutely retarded. I know dumb **** white dudes and brilliant black dudes, and vice versa, so yeah, your entire ethos is just absolutely proposterous.

School examination results demonstrate time after time that the negro in comparison to the Aryan,Asian and Oriental is not as gifted academically.
It may not be palatable for you liberals but it is a fact and it won`t go away.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Hahahaha that is a perfect example of how culture plays a role. Where I live in Texas there is a large asian/indian population (still the minority... i think we make up 5% or something of the populatino in this area). We practically dominate all academic competitions (esp in math and science). Almost all asians in our school district are in the top 10% and about 50% of the top 20 are always asian/indian. 2 of the three valedictorians in my town this year were asian. Are you attributing this to genetic superiority? No it is culture. The average americans don't place as much stress on school as do asians. In Europe, there may not be that academic culture inherent in the Asian populations. I saw that when I visited one of my family friends in germany (he is indian). His parents didn't place much stress on his education so he does average in school.

You have misquoted and misunderstood me.
Please quote my sentence in full!
Then why do negroes who share the same education systems as Aryans[whites] and Asians fare far worse academically in comparison?
I was referring to negroes,not Asians.I am well aware of your comparitive academic strengths.

 

[nkgupta80]

The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles. It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. (37) (39)

such bullshit. You onyl hear of the western greats. They're are tons of eastern greats. Most of the inventions you show happened in th elast 400-500 years, but look before thsoe mere 500 years and you'll see how much the east has done.... printing press was invented by the Chinese, the decimal system by the indians, compass, gunpowder, the first rocket used in war--indians, unparalleled metallurgy indians, the spanning of the seas---started by the great Chinese fleets, paper money--chinese. The east had always been richer than the west until the turn around in the 1500s...if these inventions hadn't occured, the West wouldn't be where it is...

You neevr hear about the great Indian and Chinese mathematicians. Bhramagupta and Aryabhat are contemporaries of Pythagoras, and Aristotle. These guys also came up with ingenious contributions to mathematics (Aryabhats studies have gone into basics of calculus many hunderds of years before Newton).

When you start citing great Western Artists as unparalleled, you start goin overboard... you find the same greatness anywhere in the world.

the world as a whole has done great things, not jsut the west.

 

[Deegan]

Is it not strange that we take great care over how and with whom our animals,both domestic and farming should mate with yet give scant regard for human breeding selection?
Is it not also strange that the Nordic female is and always has been the measure of beauty amongst females all over the world?

I really don't see how that analogy makes any sense?

Of course it's different with animals, we don't consider their wants and feelings when breeding them, we just hope for the best line we can get. It gets a tad bit more complex when discussing the relations of humans, as there is so much more to consider. Even if you use that analogy, it does not prove your point, it actually disproves it. I have seen some of the smartest animals I have ever encountered to be mixed breeds, so that tells me we are putting too much stock in blood lines. I think most would just say that it's better to be safe then sorry in that respect.

 

[nkgupta80]

I was referring to negroes

yea... a misunderstanding... but again you can attribute it to culture, so my example still applies. My brother's best friend is black. He is currently being home-schooled because he is going through intense tennis training. This kid is one of the smartest 6th graders I've ever met. His parents emphasize hard work and education at home, and you can tell right away when you meet this kid.

 

[nkgupta80]

Is it not also strange that the Nordic female is and always has been the measure of beauty amongst females all over the world?

its all the eye of the beholder...Thats a really bullshit example

 

[Deegan]

yea... a misunderstanding... but again you can attribute it to culture, so my example still applies. My brother's best friend is black. He is currently being home-schooled because he is going through intense tennis training. This kid is one of the smartest 6th graders I've ever met. His parents emphasize hard work and education at home, and you can tell right away when you meet this kid.

He must have some white genes in his family right, lol?:roll:

 

[Simon W. Moon]

How bout a biological definition of 'race'?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Last I heard, race was a social construct and not a biological one. So, what exactly are talking about here?

 

[ban.the.electoral.college]

I'ts nice to know that person was just a sick joke. I'd hate to believe he/she was for real. Saw, a few nice responses tho. Big up, UK for not being a hater!

 

[Aryan Imperium]

yea... a misunderstanding... but again you can attribute it to culture, so my example still applies. My brother's best friend is black. He is currently being home-schooled because he is going through intense tennis training. This kid is one of the smartest 6th graders I've ever met. His parents emphasize hard work and education at home, and you can tell right away when you meet this kid.

Within a race and people there will be a wide range of IQ difference and I dare say that there will be negroes who will exceed whites in terms of academic ability or latent intelligence but not in general and it is in the general and not particular sense that we are talking.

 

[nkgupta80]

Within a race and people there will be a wide range of IQ difference and I dare say that there will be negroes who will exceed whites in terms of academic ability or latent intelligence but not in general and it is in the general and not particular sense that we are talking.

in general, the African Americans tend to have a culture that does not emphasize education much. I can say the same for average white americans Average americans. Considering white people are the majority, you will easily find more smart white kids than smart black kids. But the cultural emphasis is pretty much the same. A lot of people could be smart but either choose not to, or don't have the drive to make something of themselves. This can be attributed to culture and parenting, not genetics.

 

[cnredd]

I think we should all come together; all colors...and join hands...learn to love one another...live with one another...all with one common purpose....

To hate the French...

 

[JustineCredible]

I think we should all come together; all colors...and join hands...learn to love one another...live with one another...all with one common purpose....

To hate the French...

Mangez la merde et vivez!

 

[cnredd]

Mangez la merde et vivez!

And a "Pepe Le Pew" to you, too!

 

[Surenderer]

I give speeches (from time to time) on this subject.....some interesting facts are that As part of The State of Black America 2004: The Complexity of Black Progress, the League unveiled its first “Equality Index” a statistical measurement of the disparities that exist between blacks and whites in economics, housing, education, health, social justice and civic engagement. (Assigning whites a weighted index value of 1, the Equality Index value of less than 1 means blacks are doing worse than whites in a category, while a value of 1 or more means Blacks are doing equal doing better)...........The report finds that despite substantial progress, the status of African Americans is .73, or 73%, when compared to their white counterparts....Some interesting things from the study:

Health - Blacks’ health status measures 78% of whites

Education - Total educational performance is 76% as compared to whites

Fewer than 50% of black families own their own homes, vs. over 70% of whites (Blacks are denied mortgages and home improvement loans at twice the rate of whites )

Teachers with less than 3 years experience teach in minority schools at twice (2x) the rate that they teach in white schools

49% of black students’ teachers lack a college minor in the subject they taught vs. 40% of white students’ teachers

A black person’s average jail sentence is six months longer than a white’s for the same crime; that is 39 months versus 33 months

Blacks who are arrested are 3 times more likely to be imprisoned than whites

Military volunteerism is 1.45, indicating substantially more blacks volunteer in the military




Now the question asked should be is this because of racism (especially what I highlighted) or is racism because of the facts I posted?


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