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Are you referring to Western Civilization?Isn't the condition that allows radical Islam terrorism to develop and expand basically radical Islamic terrorism?
When schools largely consist of walking around while memorizing passages from the Koran you probably won't develop the skills needed to improve your lives. And those schools have those teaching methods because they are Islamic.
There are hundreds of MILLIONS of poor people around the world NOT engaging in terrorism... so I say it is the Radicals themselves that are the problem.
There are hundreds of MILLIONS of poor people around the world NOT engaging in terrorism... so I say it is the Radicals themselves that are the problem.
By "the conditions that allow for radical Islamic terrorism to develop and expand," I mean:
Hundreds of millions of people under the age of 25 in parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia who know about the relative prosperity of the West and feel they are locked out because of a lack of economic and educational opportunities by poverty, bad governance, and corruption.
This question came to mind while I was watching SOS Kerry being interviewed by Charlie Rose.
attributing Islamic devotion to poverty is, well, like attributing Ebola to poverty.
You figure the spread of a disease like Ebola is unrelated to poverty? You might wanna look through some of this material.
And being a devout Muslim does not lead one to be a terrorist,
not any more than being a devout Christian leads one to stone adulterers.
I figure that poverty didn't create Ebola.
No, but it was responsible for the epidemic that killed more than 11K people. If the virus had originated in a developed country, the death toll would have been much, much smaller. And without the hundreds of millions of dollars needed to establish and carry out effective clinical care, implement rigorous infection prevention and control measures, trace people who were exposed, and principally to develop vaccines to fight the disease, many, many more would have died. ("Non-conventional humanitarian interventions on Ebola outbreak crisis in West Africa: health, ethics and legal implications," Infectious Diseases of Poverty, 3(1):42, Nov 25, 2014
>>poverty [was not] the biological cause of its spread (the cause of Ebola spreading is the transmission of bodily fluids containing Ebola virus from one person to another)
A narrow and misleading analysis.
>>the cause of Islamic terrorism is people becoming convinced that Muhammed is the prophet of God
No, that is absurd. As has been noted here, many millions of Muslims, in fact many millions of Muslims living in abject poverty, are not terrorists. One person contracting Ebola (apparently after being bitten by a bat) did not cause the epidemic — poverty did. Millions of people believing that Muhammad was the prophet of Allah did not create Islamic terrorism — poverty did.
>>poverty may increase the chances of these things happening, but it isn't an ultimate cause
It's the cause of the epidemics of both Ebola and Islamic terrorism. Without it, they never would have spread.
>>Muhammed commanded his followers to wage jihad on the unbelievers.
And Christians are commanded by God to stone adulterers.
>>Muhammed: "Kill the infidel"
Can you offer a citation for that? No.
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors." — Chapter 2, verse 190
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah."— chapter 8, verse 61
The call to kill non-Muslims is associated with a defensive war against forces attacking Muslim communities. Do Christians believe in self-defence?
The people who desperately want you and others to believe that Islam is an intolerant, violent religion … are the terrorists.
since poverty apparently causes terrorism, why don't you go over to Iraq and give some money to a terrorist, and see how that works out.
There are hundreds of MILLIONS of poor people around the world NOT engaging in terrorism... so I say it is the Radicals themselves that are the problem.
By "the conditions that allow for radical Islamic terrorism to develop and expand," I mean:
Hundreds of millions of people under the age of 25 in parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia who know about the relative prosperity of the West and feel they are locked out because of a lack of economic and educational opportunities by poverty, bad governance, and corruption.
This question came to mind while I was watching SOS Kerry being interviewed by Charlie Rose.
Unfortunately, there's so many conservatives who cannot tear themselves away from the assumption that Islam itself is the cause, and that there's some kind of war between "Christianity" and Islam. They can't see that poverty and lack of education and social order are the reasons, and that certain tenets of Islam are the excuse, just as certain things written in the Bible were (and sometimes still are) used as excuses for horrible crimes against those who the oh-so-religious people don't like.
And the conclusion is? Why would I care why Muslims rape women in Europe? They do it and that's all that matters.
You pay so much attention to a relatively very small percentage of Muslims causing trouble in Europe...yet I don't see you raising hell about, say, the American "Christian" leaders who supported (and assisted in) the efforts of certain African nations to pass laws declaring homosexuality to be a capital crime. Nor do I see you raising hell about the enclaves here in America where "Christians" not only practice polygamy but also kick out young men to keep the competition down...and arrange marriages to girls as young as fifteen. And then there's the small matter that you're not raising hell about the FACT that every single year, more innocent Americans are killed by other Americans than have been killed by terrorists in all of America's history combined, including 9/11.
In other words, before you complain about the mote in the other person's eye, get the log out of your own eye.
A characteristically simple-minded response. What say we put a special tax on bigots, confiscating all their assets, and use the money for foreign aid to impoverished countries with large Muslim populations.
Yes, and more importantly I can think.
I'm an Episcopalian. What are you? A Bigotarian?
Unfortunately, there's so many conservatives who cannot tear themselves away from the assumption that Islam itself is the cause, and that there's some kind of war between "Christianity" and Islam. They can't see that poverty and lack of education and social order are the reasons, and that certain tenets of Islam are the excuse, just as certain things written in the Bible were (and sometimes still are) used as excuses for horrible crimes against those who the oh-so-religious people don't like.
as has been stated, lots of people are impoverished, uneducated, and are the bottom of the social order..... yet they don't engage in terrorism.
how can this be if poverty , education, and social order are the reason for terrorism?
They are factors that contribute to terrorism but are not the sole reason behind terrorism.
Other contribuiting factors exist, but trying to pin the blame on one issue is disfficult.
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