What worries you more, some so called socialist programs or authoritarian rule?

[digitusmedius]

Y'all are communists. Don't like it? Don't be communists.

For someone who sees communists everywhere 24/7/365 (yes, that includes in your dreams obviously) you ought to be careful giving out advice. Unstable people make bad life coaches.

 

[Moot]

Y'all are communists. Don't like it? Don't be communists.

Y'all are fascists. Don't like it? Don't be fascists.

 

[digitusmedius]

No I don't. You're just crying about pointing out his criticism of lying about the media.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[Nickyjo]

You can't have communism without authoritarianism.

Likely true, but relevant?

 

[CLAX1911]

Edited for accuracy.

Your opinion is noted. Still just criticism of the media. I know it's your sacred cow but it's not mine.

 

[apdst]

Y'all are fascists. Don't like it? Don't be fascists.

We aren't fascists. Fascists are socialists, so there's no way we can be fascists.

 

[apdst]

Likely true, but relevant?

Absolutely relevant.

 

[iguanaman]

But, all communist countries are controlled by authoritarian regimes.

And that is exactly the reason communism is not a option here. Any one who say it is is a liar. Democrats are against authoritarianism in ANY form. The right not so much.

 

[digitusmedius]

Likely true, but relevant?

Just the standard and predictable cant from that one.

 

[Moot]

We aren't fascists. Fascists are socialists, so there's no way we can be fascists.

Authoritarian 'Trumpolini' fascists, neo nazis, white supremacists, racists, bigots.....yes, y'all are that.

Our grandfathers fought a war to get rid of your kind.

 

[joko104]

I constantly hear the trumpsters shouting the Dems want socialism. Of course they are so stupid they do not know the difference between socialism and some social programs, i.e., Social Security and Medicare. What I do not hear them complain about is the type of authoritarian rule that Trump seems to be moving the country to. He has even said straight out that he wants to name a justice to the court so that they can give him the election. And these same Trumpsters called Obama a dictator for using executive orders, while applauding Trump for doing so much more to the country with his orders. So what are you afraid of more, a few socialist programs or Trump's authoritian rule?

Socialism is authoritarian rule by definition.

 

[Quag]

Obama is the worst President we ever had, Carter is thankful for Obama, until Obama he was the worst President we ever had!

Trump runs away with the trophy for worst president in history, There isnt even a close second.

 

[Nickyjo]

Some do.

Name some.

 

[Nickyjo]

Absolutely relevant.

How is it relevant to the topic discussed?

 

[Nickyjo]

Socialism is authoritarian rule by definition.

So democracy is dead in Europe? Face it, the US adopted several socialist programs throughout the 20th century without becoming authoritarian, saving capitalism rather than trashing it. We can get rid of those programs if the votes to do so are there. Witness how Obamacare was saved by one vote. And no one, except Trump rhetorically at times, is pushing for a Stalinist-style government.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Authoritarian 'Trumpolini' fascists, neo nazis, white supremacists, racists, bigots.....yes, y'all are that.

Our grandfathers fought a war to get rid of your kind.

Your grandfathers were Republicans?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Said the guy that just referred to democrats as communists .

Perhaps you prefer fascist authoritarianism, is that it?

It has always been the Democrats who've supported Communists from Joe Stalin to Nikita Khrushchev to Che Guevara to Fidel Castro. Naturally their judgements have always been viewed with some suspicions.

 

[Moot]

Your grandfathers were Republicans?

Your grandfathers were Fascists?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Your grandfathers were Fascists?

Of course not.

But do you know who was fighting for slavery? Who were the White Supremacists, and are still to this day? (Hint) It was and is the Democrats. I guess that's something they didn't teach you in school.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Do you feel that Antifa and BLM rioters are the "Trump Right"?

No, Antifa as it exists today is mostly spoiled kids with some extremist views who do "cosplay" and street theater, thinking that they are exactly like the old Antifa of the 1930's.
They can't be because the real "anti-FA" are the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen who went over to Europe and fought in WW2, and in any case, the old 1930's European Antifaschistische Aktion were actually fighting militants, AND official German military as well as the German government at the time. The original Antifaschistische Aktion sprang from roots in the German Communist Party. Since communism is an authoritarian branch of the Left, they are mostly authoritarian leftists, not the Trump Right.

BLM is a marxist inspired activist group that has coopted and marketed a cause that is four hundred years old.
Marxism is also not of the Right, because it is, in fact, of the far Left, just like communism, however marxism is mostly composed of economic and class ideology, the latter by virtue of the fact that marxism teaches that there are no classes in reality, at least their reality anyway.

Why @Fred C Dobbs II, would anyone believe that these groups are of the Trump Right?
That makes no sense at all.
What IS on the Trump Right are all the affiliated groups that have been busted infiltrating and agitating during quite a few of the protests, Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, the Boogaloos, etc.
The FBI has a lot of reports on these, would you like for me to link to them?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Of course not.

But do you know who was fighting for slavery? Who were the White Supremacists, and are still to this day? (Hint) It was and is the Democrats. I guess that's something they didn't teach you in school.

That's already been debunked hundreds of times right here on DP, and hundreds of thousands of times elsewhere.
But you keep on parroting that revisionism, see if it helps in a few weeks.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

That's already been debunked hundreds of times right here on DP, and hundreds of thousands of times elsewhere.
But you keep on parroting that revisionism, see if it helps in a few weeks.

Whoa! What's been "debunked"? Are you saying that it was the Republicans who fought for slavery? That it was Republicans who established the Jim Crow Laws and the KKK? Is that what they're teaching in schools today??

 

[Bullseye]

I constantly hear the trumpsters shouting the Dems want socialism. Of course they are so stupid they do not know the difference between socialism and some social programs, i.e., Social Security and Medicare.

You're talking total, ignorant bullshit. Sorry to be so blunt; just maintaining the intellectual level you seem to operate.

What I do not hear them complain about is the type of authoritarian rule that Trump seems to be moving the country to. He has even said straight out that he wants to name a justice to the court so that they can give him the election. And these same Trumpsters called Obama a dictator for using executive orders, while applauding Trump for doing so much more to the country with his orders. So what are you afraid of more, a few socialist programs or Trump's authoritian rule?

More bullshit. WHAT "authoritarian rule"; he's been cutting rules and regulations and ceding federal authority to the states. He fights huge authoritarian government programs in lieu of personal freedom and responsibility.

 

[Moot]

Of course not.

But do you know who was fighting for slavery? Who were the White Supremacists, and are still to this day? (Hint) It was and is the Democrats. I guess that's something they didn't teach you in school.

Unfortunately for you....that's the GOP's platform now. I guess current events isn't part of your revisionist curriculum.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

No, Antifa as it exists today is mostly spoiled kids with some extremist views who do "cosplay" and street theater, thinking that they are exactly like the old Antifa of the 1930's.
They can't be because the real "anti-FA" are the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen who went over to Europe and fought in WW2, and in any case, the old 1930's European Antifaschistische Aktion were actually fighting militants, AND official German military as well as the German government at the time. The original Antifaschistische Aktion sprang from roots in the German Communist Party. Since communism is an authoritarian branch of the Left, they are mostly authoritarian leftists, not the Trump Right.

BLM is a marxist inspired activist group that has coopted and marketed a cause that is four hundred years old.
Marxism is also not of the Right, because it is, in fact, of the far Left, just like communism, however marxism is mostly composed of economic and class ideology, the latter by virtue of the fact that marxism teaches that there are no classes in reality, at least their reality anyway.

Why @Fred C Dobbs II, would anyone believe that these groups are of the Trump Right?
That makes no sense at all.
What IS on the Trump Right are all the affiliated groups that have been busted infiltrating and agitating during quite a few of the protests, Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, the Boogaloos, etc.
The FBI has a lot of reports on these, would you like for me to link to them?

You said , "What you're hearing and seeing from the Trump Right is pure hysteria at this point. And it's well funded paid hysteria.
AUTHORITARIAN hysteria" yet I don't see any hysteria coming from "Trump Right".

Instead I see it coming from the Biden Left and we;ve seen it for a couple of years now, starting with riots on college campuses trying to control free speech and the First Amendment.. Now they are destroying cities, looting, assaulting and murdering.

Is that 'hysteria'?