What worries you more, some so called socialist programs or authoritarian rule?

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Unfortunately for you....that's your party's platform now. I guess current events isn't part of your revisionist curriculum.

Can you please point to anything you mentioned which is in the Republican Party platform? Racism? White Supremacy? That's always in the Democrat Party, and still exists today.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Unfortunately for you....that's the GOP's platform now. I guess current events isn't part of your revisionist curriculum.

Can you point out where slavery or White Supremacy is part of the GOP platform? You should consider the possibility that you may have been misinformed.

 

[Moot]

Can you please point to anything you mentioned which is in the Republican Party platform? Racism? White Supremacy? That's always in the Democrat Party, and still exists today.

Sure...right after you point to anything in the Democrat platform that mentions socialism and communism.

The GOP has turned into a cult of neo nazi fascists....."the Jews will not replace us."

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Sure...right after you point to anything in the Democrat platform that mentions socialism and communism.

The GOP has turned into a cult of neo nazi fascists....."the Jews will not replace us."

I never made the claim that Democrats were socialists or Communists but here's the DSA website and it's members in government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America

Now could you point out any racism or White Supremacy in the Republican Party platform, as you claimed?

And who made that quote you mentioned in your post? And who are these neo Nazi fascists you refer to?

 

[digitusmedius]

Socialism is authoritarian rule by definition.

Oh, you mean like lying is joko by definition?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

You said , "What you're hearing and seeing from the Trump Right is pure hysteria at this point. And it's well funded paid hysteria.
AUTHORITARIAN hysteria" yet I don't see any hysteria coming from "Trump Right".

Then you don't see it.
That's not my problem, it's yours.
Get your vision checked, start paying attention.
But before you do any of those things, check to see if you might be sea-lioning, because I sense a sealioning session coming on.

 

[Felis Leo]

I constantly hear the trumpsters shouting the Dems want socialism. Of course they are so stupid they do not know the difference between socialism and some social programs, i.e., Social Security and Medicare. What I do not hear them complain about is the type of authoritarian rule that Trump seems to be moving the country to. He has even said straight out that he wants to name a justice to the court so that they can give him the election. And these same Trumpsters called Obama a dictator for using executive orders, while applauding Trump for doing so much more to the country with his orders. So what are you afraid of more, a few socialist programs or Trump's authoritian rule?

Those particular Democrats who want socialism certainly do. And socialism by its very nature is authoritarian, even if it is established via democratic rather than violent revolutionary means; any system in which the state is required to decide who shall work and who shall eat can be nothing else but authoritarian. But social welfare programs meant to act as a safety net for the poor, the disabled and the just plain unlucky do not trouble me in the slightest. Authoritarian rule does worry me, whether it is instantiated in a President who believes in untrammeled personal rule, or one who wishes to create a vast and unchecked administrative state which can crush individuals and violate their freedoms with little to no consequence.

 

[bomberfox]

Eh i’d much rather have socialism than fascist ghouls running the show but that is if i had to choose. Social democracy seems like a much better alternative though.

 

[digitusmedius]

I never made the claim that Democrats were socialists or Communists but here's the DSA website and it's members in government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America

Now could you point out any racism or White Supremacy in the Republican Party platform, as you claimed?

And who made that quote you mentioned in your post? And who are these neo Nazi fascists you refer to?

Even Republicans aren't dumbshit enough to encode their racism in the platform. But you and your like constantly remind us of it, most notably when you insult Black Dem voters by referring to them being on the plantation or not knowing any better than to vote for Dems. Of course, there's the labeling BLM as a terrorist group. Oh, and doing everything possible to prevent Black voters from doing so.

These are your Dirtbag's "very fine people" so yours by association:

 

[Moot]

I never made the claim that Democrats were socialists or Communists but here's the DSA website and it's members in government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America

Now could you point out any racism or White Supremacy in the Republican Party platform, as you claimed?

And who made that quote you mentioned in your post? And who are these neo Nazi fascists you refer to?

Yes, you did......when you took it upon yourself to butt into the discussion and defend apdst's claim.

I suggest you look up the definition of Democratic Socialists.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Then you don't see it.
That's not my problem, it's yours.
Get your vision checked, start paying attention.
But before you do any of those things, check to see if you might be sea-lioning, because I sense a sealioning session coming on.

More leftist gibberish.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

More leftist gibberish.

Hey Fred, I don't know if you realize this but responding by babbling about leftist gibberish might be an indicator that you lack anything further. Sometimes it might be best to remain silent.
Besides, I don't think anyone here has figured out yet what your overall point is supposed to be.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Yes, you did......when you took it upon yourself to butt into the discussion and defend apdst's claim.

I suggest you look up the definition of Democratic Socialists.

This is an open forum and we're all able to enter a discussion at any time. In fact that's the point.

Now that you're unable to support your nonsensical claims you claim the discussion actually involved another poster.

If you can't support your claims then don't make them. Someone will always call you out.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Hey Fred, I don't know if you realize this but responding by babbling about leftist gibberish might be an indicator that you lack anything further. Sometimes it might be best to remain silent.
Besides, I don't think anyone here has figured out yet what your overall point is supposed to be.

You said , "What you're hearing and seeing from the Trump Right is pure hysteria at this point. And it's well funded paid hysteria.
AUTHORITARIAN hysteria." But, naturally, like a fellow leftist on this thread, you offer no evidence. Seems you're both drinking from the same pool of muddy water.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Even Republicans aren't dumbshit enough to encode their racism in the platform. But you and your like constantly remind us of it, most notably when you insult Black Dem voters by referring to them being on the plantation or not knowing any better than to vote for Dems. Of course, there's the labeling BLM as a terrorist group. Oh, and doing everything possible to prevent Black voters from doing so.

These are your Dirtbag's "very fine people" so yours by association:

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Who are you responding to here? Do you understand how the quote system works?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Eh i’d much rather have socialism than fascist ghouls running the show but that is if i had to choose. Social democracy seems like a much better alternative though.

Are those the only two choices?

 

[Moot]

This is an open forum and we're all able to enter a discussion at any time. In fact that's the point.

Now that you're unable to support your nonsensical claims you claim the discussion actually involved another poster.

If you can't support your claims then don't make them. Someone will always call you out.

Sure, you can enter anytime...but you should at least understand what you're arguing for or against before you do.

I suggest you take your own advice, Fred.

 

[Felis Leo]

Eh i’d much rather have socialism than fascist ghouls running the show but that is if i had to choose. Social democracy seems like a much better alternative though.

Well yes. If any of us had to choose between living in a socialist state versus a fascist state, most of us would have to choose the socialist state with a couple exceptions (such as Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Stalin's USSR at the height of the Terror, etc.). But if we go by the list of actual true-blue socialist states, you would still be choosing a life of want, poverty and misery unless you were under the happy circumstance to be a part of the ruling elite, such as a member of the Socialist Party in charge of the country.

 

[digitusmedius]

Who are you responding to here? Do you understand how the quote system works?

Who are you responding to here? Do you understand how the quote system works?
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See #109, "Fred," where it's clearly a response to your earlier whacked-out bull shit. But thanks for revealing once again how clueless you and all those like you are.

 

[digitusmedius]

Sure, you can enter anytime...but you should at least understand what you're arguing for or against before you do.

I suggest you take your own advice, Fred.

No chance of that. These people don't have a speck of self-awareness and share at least a portion of the narcissism of Their Dear Dirtbag so their massive hypocrisy will never be recognized much less acknowledged.

 

[Moderate Right]

“We want to get rid of the ballots, and we’ll have a very peaceful — there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There’ll be a continuation.” (here referring to tens of millions of mail in ballots)
"I think this [the election] will end up in the Supreme Court, and I think it's very important that we have nine Justices"

It's always about what Trump says because that's all you've got. He has never done anything but say words that make you guys run around like chickens with your heads cut off.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Sure, you can enter anytime...but you should at least understand what you're arguing for or against before you do.

I suggest you take your own advice, Fred.

I responded to your comments and your claim that the Republican Party had a racist agenda. I asked for some evidence of your claim and now you want to change the subject. This is the norm for leftists.

 

[Moot]

I responded to your comments and your claim that the Republican Party had a racist agenda. I asked for some evidence of your claim and now you want to change the subject. This is the norm for leftists.

The only reason we're not discussing the topic is because of you.

 

[digitusmedius]

It's always about what Trump says because that's all you've got. He has never done anything but say words that make you guys run around like chickens with your heads cut off.

He's trying to destroy the PPACA even as he's lying his filthy ass off claiming he's the one who will never let pre-existing conditions be a bar to getting health insurance coverage. See, the problem with you cultists is your forbidden from actually listening to what he says AND realizing what he's actually doing. He's right up front about wanting a deadlock proof Supreme Court so he can get that body to pull a Bush Part II and put him into a second term. And you people are programed not to see what's right in front of you in flashing red lights with sirens.

 

[Moderate Right]

He's trying to destroy the PPACA even as he's lying his filthy ass off claiming he's the one who will never let pre-existing conditions be a bar to getting health insurance coverage. See, the problem with you cultists is your forbidden from actually listening to what he says AND realizing what he's actually doing. He's right up front about wanting a deadlock proof Supreme Court so he can get that body to pull a Bush Part II and put him into a second term. And you people are programed not to see what's right in front of you in flashing red lights with sirens.

There you go yet again. It seems. He's trying. Let me know when he actually does something.