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What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?

What matters more to right wingers?

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Eriech said:
Party unity. There is no uniting with the left. Way too many weak links aka "******s" not enough Patriots.
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Every time I hear party unity, is reminds me of The Nazis.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Define "right wingers."

That seems to be a malleable term when it comes to those who profess to be progressives, socialists, neo-Liberals, communists, etc.. To them it means anyone who does not agree with their notions, ideals, views, and goals.

I've always considered myself a Classical Liberal:

What Is Classical Liberalism? Definition and Examples (thoughtco.com)

Shortly after joining the Forum I posted a "Hi I'm Me" newbie statement found here: Hi and here are my positons. Anyone wanna add me as a freind | Debate Politics

I later reposted it in a blog, also describing how I intend to participate in this Forum, found here: (1) Time To Re-Introduce Myself. | Debate Politics

The point of reposting is to show that my views in this Forum expressed since joining demonstrate exactly what I declared when I joined. Note that they do not reflect the alleged ideals the Left likes to attribute to those who do not agree with them, and use the label "right-winger" to disparage.

So, define "right-winger" as you perceive one to be...then maybe a debate can be had.

As for the poll itself?

Your options are both limited, and too generalized...trying to put a whole class into a tiny box when there are so many issues of greater importance than either "owning the Libs," or "Unity."
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See to them, there's them, and then there's everyone else is a Nazi.
Just ask Don Lemon.
 
Moderate Right said:
The left have been criticizing Trump for four years, claiming he is divisive. That implies that the left would not be divisive. In fact, Biden ran on uniting and healing the country. So, are you guys going to unite and heal the country or was all that just a lie?
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As you have been told over and over again, there was interest in unity until Trump incited an attempted insurrection with support from much of the GOP. That line has been crossed and cannot be un-crossed. And worse for the GOP, they did it just as the left won the senate. So, now there is little tolerance amongst the Democrats to give an inch to the GOP. It's on the right sue for unity and show that they deserve it. So no one cares anymore about Biden's pre-insurrection aspirations. The Democrats mainly care about defeating COVID, improving education, improving health care, national security and infrastructure, and they are now free to implement policy to solve these problems with or without GOP input. So, it's up to the GOP to choose whether they want to opt into the process or not. And they certainly are welcome to sit on the sidelines complain if that's what they would prefer to do.
 
Acadia said:
False dichotomy. Construct a better arugment.
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Nope, those 2 things contradict each other, you have to pick or the other.

Saying you support Unity and owning the libs, is like saying you are a Christian Atheist.
 
SMTA said:
And to allow that individual freedom to exist without any personal responsibility or consideration of any other citizens who exist, right?
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That is up to the voters and their lawmakers.
 
SMTA said:
Every time I hear party unity, is reminds me of The Nazis.
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Actually the unity in the Democrat Party is solid. A break with leadership is rare to nonexistent. It is reminiscent of the Nazis or the NORKS. Has Nancy fed anyone to the dogs lately?
 
Mycroft said:
It's alarming that you pretend not to.

Oh...wait...you ARE pretending, aren't you?
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Did the Vice President have the authority to declare the results bad?

Where in the constitution does it say he can...

Yet you wanted him to.

Constitution and rule of law right out the window right there.

Your pretending to care about those things is funny.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Did the Vice President have the authority to declare the results bad?

Where in the constitution does it say he can...

Yet you wanted him to.

Constitution and rule of law right out the window right there.

Your pretending to care about those things is funny.
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I never said I wanted him to do any such thing.

Is that how it goes? You defend your pretense by lying about me?

You are dismissed.
 
Cardinal said:
Unity is possible where we share the same humanitarian and democratic ideals. The reason why our national unity has shattered in the last forty years is because over time we stopped sharing those values. Obviously there was never going to be unity over policy (duh).

We have a very real problem because now we don't even agree that humanitarianism, democracy, truth and the rule of law are good.
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I think it is rather that our political parties are thriving on division and aren't interested in unity, at all. It keeps them posh and us at each other.
 
Lovebug said:
I think it is rather that our political parties are thriving on division and aren't interested in unity, at all. It keeps them posh and us at each other.
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That's the culture war, yes. And I'm not merely referring to the culture war itself but the motives of the powerful in instigating and prolonging it, as you alluded to. All true.

But the biggest problem with the culture war is that it eventually eroded the mutually agreed-upon ideals I listed. If you don't believe in democracy, truth, humanitarianism, and the rule of law, then I'm not sure on how you fix that divide with somebody who does believe in those things.

What's the middle ground between "We should overturn the election and the will of the people" and "No we shouldn't"?

What's the middle ground between "Obama is an illegitimate Kenyan" and "No he isn't"?

What's the middle ground between "The President can break as many laws as he wants and pardon all his criminals associates" and "No he shouldn't"?

What's the middle ground between facts and alternate facts?

Etc...
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The choice between national unity or owning the libs creates a false dichotomy for you?
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Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?
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I do not desire unity with people who call me an irredeemable racist deplorable and likely harbor fantasies about killing me communism style. I do not desire unity with people pushing hormones on kids to make perverts and cross dressers feel better.
 
Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?
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"They want to dictate over others"... when true fact is: they can't manage their own lives for spinning in agitations because they can't control and dictate over others.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I do not desire unity with people who call me an irredeemable racist deplorable and likely harbor fantasies about killing me communism style. I do not desire unity with people pushing hormones on kids to make perverts and cross dressers feel better.
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Sounds like your spin... is about things that are "none of your business". You might do better to try and manage your own perversions.
 
RealityNow said:
Sounds like your spin... is about things that are "none of your business". You might do better to try and manage your own perversions.
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It is absolutely is my business when a political faction is encouraging and inciting violence against me with rhetoric. It’s all of societies business when kids are being brainwashed into gender confusion and given hormones.
 
Lovebug said:
I think it is rather that our political parties are thriving on division and aren't interested in unity, at all. It keeps them posh and us at each other.
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perverts just want to put girls on testosterone at age 12. It’s a damn shame that we can’t unite when one side is just bigots that have a problem with that.
 
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