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What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?

What matters more to right wingers?

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Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?
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Define "right wingers."

That seems to be a malleable term when it comes to those who profess to be progressives, socialists, neo-Liberals, communists, etc.. To them it means anyone who does not agree with their notions, ideals, views, and goals.

I've always considered myself a Classical Liberal:

Classical liberalism is a political and economic ideology that advocates the protection of civil liberties and laissez-faire economic freedom by limiting the power of the central government.
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What Is Classical Liberalism? Definition and Examples (thoughtco.com)

Shortly after joining the Forum I posted a "Hi I'm Me" newbie statement found here: Hi and here are my positons. Anyone wanna add me as a freind | Debate Politics

I later reposted it in a blog, also describing how I intend to participate in this Forum, found here: (1) Time To Re-Introduce Myself. | Debate Politics

The point of reposting is to show that my views in this Forum expressed since joining demonstrate exactly what I declared when I joined. Note that they do not reflect the alleged ideals the Left likes to attribute to those who do not agree with them, and use the label "right-winger" to disparage.

So, define "right-winger" as you perceive one to be...then maybe a debate can be had.

As for the poll itself?

Your options are both limited, and too generalized...trying to put a whole class into a tiny box when there are so many issues of greater importance than either "owning the Libs," or "Unity."
 
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Mycroft said:
Neither.

Freedom, the Constitution, rule of law...those are some of the things that matter.
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lol....not at all. If any of that was true, they never would have voted for Trump. Duh.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Define "right wingers."

That seems to be a malleable term when it comes to those who profess to be progressives, socialists, neo-Liberals, communists, etc.. To them it means anyone who does not agree with their notions, ideals, views, and goals.

I've always considered myself a Classical Liberal:

What Is Classical Liberalism? Definition and Examples (thoughtco.com)

Shortly after joining the Forum I posted a "Hi I'm Me" newbie statement found here: Hi and here are my positons. Anyone wanna add me as a freind | Debate Politics

I later reposted it in a blog, also describing how I intend to participate in this Forum, found here: (1) Time To Re-Introduce Myself. | Debate Politics

The point of reposting is to show that my views in this Forum expressed since joining demonstrate exactly what I declared when I joined. Note that they do not reflect the alleged ideals the Left likes to attribute to those who do not agree with them, and use the label "right-winger" to disparage.

So, define "right-winger" as you perceive one to be...then maybe a debate can be had.

As for the poll itself?

Your options are both limited, and too generalized...trying to put a whole class into a tiny box when there are so many issues of greater importance than either "owning the Libs," or "Unity."
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Define right-winger anyway you want, I do not care about semantics and the poll is valid, it asked if right-wingers who talk about unity, actually demand anything of their movement to do it, or do they want unity to be a one-way street?
 
Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?
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To be fair, unity isn't high on most people's lists right now. Partisanship, especially negative partisanship, is fairly high these days.

That said: The right wing has spent the past 4 years blatantly violating most of its alleged principles, in order to keep an authoritarian goon in office. They know they have spent the past few decades losing the culture wars, and are far more interested in sticking it to their perceived enemies than in unity -- or just accepting the basic premise that "Democrats can win legitimate elections."

But hey, don't take it from me. As one Republican put it: “Owning the libs and pissing off the media, that’s what we believe in now. There’s really not much more to it.”

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What matters more to left wingers? Unity or owning the cons?
Be good little poodles and do your party's bidding, why don't you?
 
Moderate Right said:
Says the party who wants to own the right, the hell with unity.
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You trying to deflect, what have conservatives done to promote unity over the past 4 years, these calls for unity from conservatives now after the GOP is out of power are cynical.
 
Lovebug said:
What matters more to left wingers? Unity or owning the cons?
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Unity is possible where we share the same humanitarian and democratic ideals. The reason why our national unity has shattered in the last forty years is because over time we stopped sharing those values. Obviously there was never going to be unity over policy (duh).

We have a very real problem because now we don't even agree that humanitarianism, democracy, truth and the rule of law are good.
 
Mycroft said:
Neither.

Freedom, the Constitution, rule of law...those are some of the things that matter.
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Yes!... This!.....I didn't do the poll because the questions just amount to another stupid poll with stupid questions.....
 
The right wing is terrified that their so-called higher status is under siege. They may have to admit that minorities can actually accomplish the same goals in life as "The Chosen Ones"...and sometimes, (heaven forbid) they actually accomplish more.. It speaks volumes at how incompetent and insecure they truly are.
 
Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the liberals?
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It is not which matters more, but either/or. Republicans do not care one bit about unity. If they did, there would be no prejudice or discrimination against any demographic group and all of our civil rights laws would reflect that.
 
Lovebug said:
What matters more to left wingers? Unity or owning the cons?

Be good little poodles and do your party's bidding, why don't you?
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You have to not even know what a left-winger is to ask questions like that. They obviously have been campaigning on the word UNITY and anti=discrimination. Joe Biden repeatedly said, "I do not see red states and blue states. I only see the United States." And the campaign's slogan was "We the People" because those are the first three words of the U.S. Constitution's preamble, not "Me the Person' like Donald Trump wishes they were. Democrats support and campaign for equality in every aspect of life: marriage, pregnancy choices, employment, education, voting, assembly, and more.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Define "right wingers."

That seems to be a malleable term when it comes to those who profess to be progressives, socialists, neo-Liberals, communists, etc.. To them it means anyone who does not agree with their notions, ideals, views, and goals.

I've always considered myself a Classical Liberal:

What Is Classical Liberalism? Definition and Examples (thoughtco.com)

Shortly after joining the Forum I posted a "Hi I'm Me" newbie statement found here: Hi and here are my positons. Anyone wanna add me as a freind | Debate Politics

I later reposted it in a blog, also describing how I intend to participate in this Forum, found here: (1) Time To Re-Introduce Myself. | Debate Politics

The point of reposting is to show that my views in this Forum expressed since joining demonstrate exactly what I declared when I joined. Note that they do not reflect the alleged ideals the Left likes to attribute to those who do not agree with them, and use the label "right-winger" to disparage.

So, define "right-winger" as you perceive one to be...then maybe a debate can be had.

As for the poll itself?

Your options are both limited, and too generalized...trying to put a whole class into a tiny box when there are so many issues of greater importance than either "owning the Libs," or "Unity."
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Hi and here are my positions, time to re-int....wait a cotton pickin minute, you sound just like Melania.
Melania, is that you??
I mean, we didn't mean to interrupt you shooting photos of Trump Prayer Rugs.
 
"Right wingers" is a broad brush.

Some definitely have no interest in unity, and sadly, they seem to be the loudest and most visible. So it is understandable that the rest of us tend to paint the rest of them with the same brush of white supremacy and fascism. When the the others stay silent and hide their faces, they become complicit.

"The only thing that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
 
Yes_Minister said:
or do they want unity to be a one-way street?
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That was answered years before Trump.

RICHARD MOURDOCK: "Well, I have a mindset that says bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view."

 
Mycroft said:
Neither.

Freedom, the Constitution, rule of law...those are some of the things that matter.
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
 
What matters more: hockey or maple syrup
 
The Democratic Party now is the antithesis of liberalism. It is authoritarian corporate-fascism.
 
Yes_Minister said:
What matters more to right wingers, unity or owning the libs?
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I don't know. How do you think these guys feel about it?

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