What is your general view on Islamic terrorism?

[Kobie]

It's a fair question question and one I fully expected. In my experience, Islamic terrorism is regarded and treated differently than other types. I rarely see arguments about how we need to understand dudes who bomb abortion clinics, for example.

I regularly see arguments here fully justifying the murder of "abortionists." I never see arguments justifying "Islamic terrorism."

 

[X Factor]

You missed a poll question. "It's never justified". Targeting civilians/non combatants is never justified.

You're right. That would have been a good response. I guess the closest would be the first option.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I simply ask because the focus is always on Islamic terror, when much, a large percentage in fact of terrorist incidents in the United States are carried out by Americans, or people who have been legally allowed into the country. And then if you add mass killings to the mix things get pretty interesting.


Did you know that the 911 terrorists succeeded because you failed to follow your own laws.

When you boil this down it basically says "Why talk about Islamic terrorism when you Americans are even worse?"

I think that's part of Xfactors motivation for the poll.

When Americans talk about Islamic terrorism they are not necessarily taking the position that they are perfect and have no problems of their own. So what is the motivation to constantly draw this parallel?

 

[X Factor]

I regularly see arguments here fully justifying the murder of "abortionists." I never see arguments justifying "Islamic terrorism."

Fair point regarding your first sentence, I do disagree with your second.

 

[Captain America]

What a major disappointment. :mrgreen:

I prefer to keep it private.

 

[Fearandloathing]

When you boil this down it basically says "Why talk about Islamic terrorism when you Americans are even worse?"

I think that's part of Xfactors motivation for the poll.

When Americans talk about Islamic terrorism they are not necessarily taking the position that they are perfect and have no problems of their own. So what is the motivation to constantly draw this parallel?

That's pretty good, but if it's subconcious why not go all the way. "Islamic" has a sword on their flag. They wear masks and pray in a language we con't understand.

It's all been done, said. Read "the Prince" by Machiavelli

 

[a351]

FYI see my edit. This forum's admin allows 25 minutes to edit a post. You would be wise to keep your frontal cortex in check and delay your responses.

Or are you one of those people who don't pay attention to how your body responds to stimuli, including what you read? I regard that as a handicap, identical to the loss of use of your legs. Please inform me as to the state of your self-awareness because if you do have the handicap of not practicing mindfulness of your body I will afford you more leeway as I do all of my inferiors.

Or were you merely incompetent of the topic? I can adjust for that also.

:lol:

 

[X Factor]

I prefer to keep it private.

You just don't want to admit there's a colonel of truth to my OP.

 

[Captain America]

You just don't want to admit there's a colonel of truth to my OP.

Oh, not at all. I think it is a very admiral OP. <Sorry. That's all I got. :3oops: >

 

[X Factor]

Oh, not at all. I think it is a very admiral OP. <Sorry. That's all I got. :3oops: >

Damn you, that's where I was going next.

 

[Kobie]

Oh, not at all. I think it is a very admiral OP. <Sorry. That's all I got. :3oops: >

Hey, keep your little discussion private

 

[X Factor]

Hey, keep your little discussion private

"A" for effort. "F" for the plagiarism, though.

I prefer to keep it private.

 

[ChezC3]

I hate it. I hate it. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.

 

[nota bene]

Oh, not at all. I think it is a very admiral OP. <Sorry. That's all I got. :3oops: >

Ha, can't you offer more than a grunt? You may need corporal punishment. :2razz:

 

[Captain America]

Ha, can't you offer more than a grunt? You may need corporal punishment. :2razz:

I probably should go see a Specialist. And go First Class.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The breakdown of law and order on this planet is a huge problem, condemning it is nowhere near good enough, we have to end it, one way or the other, what ever it takes.

Just to be clear military action is not the only tool in the toolbox, and it is not the only tool that is required to fix this problem. I would use nuclear weapons if I thought that it would do the trick and there was no other way. That is not the case and is not likely to be the case, I point this out simply to illustrate how serious I think this problem is.

I took the top choice, but maybe I should have take "other" because of my dissatisfaction that this choice does not go far enough

 

[akrunner88]

The breakdown of law and order on this planet is a huge problem, condemning it is nowhere near good enough, we have to end it, one way or the other, what ever it takes.

Just to be clear military action is not the only tool in the toolbox, and it is not the only tool that is required to fix this problem. I would use nuclear weapons if I thought that it would do the trick and there was no other way. That is not the case and is not likely to be the case, I point this out simply to illustrate how serious I think this problem is.

I took the top choice, but maybe I should have take "other" because of my dissatisfaction that this choice does not go far enough

The only way to prevent and mitigate it is to allow authoritarian governments to do their thing in areas of the world that are economically disadvantaged for various reasons. Which means we should have never invaded Iraq. We're better off with Assad. We were probably better off with Ghadafi. We're better off with the military government running Egypt. We are better off with the royal rulers in Saudi Arabia.

 

[mbig]

...I see that same behavior demonstrated absolutely everywhere. Fundamentalist Jewish terrorists kills a palestinian family in their home at night because God gave them that land, Islamic terrorists kill people because Westerners because they are in Mecca, and Christians kill Planned Parenthood employees because they perform abortions...

But Your Eminence (you really are a Cardinal, right?) the security at airports, the armed police patrolling London, the security services in dozens of countries working round the clock, the hospitals with emergency plans for treating hundreds of casualties are not the result of threats to people who perform abortions. There is one and only one serious threat and that is from Islamic terrorists, people who are murdering for Allah. I simply do not believe you "see that same behaviour demonstrated absolutely everywhere"; please reconsider those words - you may conclude that they do not accord with reality.

Sweden,
you'll have to excuse our Islamic Terrorist Apologists.
Despite getting their Moral Equivalence/Equivocating Refuted regularly.. they come back the very next day with same.

As I've ponted out all too regularly, 8 people have died of Abortion Clinic Violence in 37 Years.
About the number Killed in the NAME of Islam every day, and in some/Many Single Hours.
(links/documentation gladly provided. ie Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth)
And yet they try the same Disngenuous nonsense daily.

A Christian fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim funamentalist Kills him.

 

[Your Star]

Thanks for responding. Why the snark/hostility before I even could get the responses up? These are general attitudes I've felt I have encountered here. Obviously, you haven't or you'd understand my question (or, at least, not object to me asking).

Only because you read into things what you want to, and all nuance goes out the window.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The only way to prevent and mitigate it is to allow authoritarian governments to do their thing in areas of the world that are economically disadvantaged for various reasons. Which means we should have never invaded Iraq. We're better off with Assad. We were probably better off with Ghadafi. We're better off with the military government running Egypt. We are better off with the royal rulers in Saudi Arabia.

We are going to have to create a global government and the drive to create security is going to be one of the main drivers, but the problem of Islam is going to require more than oppression and suppression of the lawless and evil. Humanity is well along the path to spiritual breakdown (and I am not talking about religion here, I am talking about the spiritual health of the individuals and collectives) , spiritual renewal, new systems, new forms of government, new power arrangements, and a new global economy are going to be required to deal with what ails modern man. Radical islamic terrorism is the result of deeper problems, we have to cure the symptoms but we have cure the underlying problems to, we have to find a way to assist individuals towards good spiritual hygiene.

Nobody has the answers.

Unfortunately very few people are looking either, we are now conditioned to jump from crisis to crisis, which is sucking up all the time money energy and wealth, there is no effort to solve the root problems.

And we will keep doing this until enough pain has been delivered that we figure out that we need to do a deep dive into this crisis of humanity.

 

[DA60]

I love Islamic terrorism. I can't get enough of it.

Seriously though, who do you expect to approve of any form of terrorism?

Neocons. Many of them love it as it is just about the only justification they have for huge defense budgets and America bombing everything in site since the Soviet Union collapsed.

 

[akrunner88]

Neocons. Many of them love it as it is just about the only justification they have for huge defense budgets and America bombing everything in site since the Soviet Union collapsed.

This.

Obviously Islamic terrorism is a huge problem, but that problem is exasperated by warhawks in the US government who have close ties to the military industrial complex and the financing of their reelection bids. This causes us to rush head first into conflicts that are not only against our best interest, but create more problems than they try to "solve."

 

[X Factor]

Only because you read into things what you want to, and all nuance goes out the window.

That's funny, YS, considering what's being read into my motivation for this thread. It's not a trap or anything. It there were, my options would be considerably more inflammatory. I'm actually interested in what folks think.

 

[Gardener]

Only because you read into things what you want to, and all nuance goes out the window.

In most cases, the word "nuance" means little more than "double talk".

 

[oncewas]

Right up there with the KKK.They are two of the same,both will kill you for what they believe in,in the name of Religion!