What is wrong with the left? Upside down worldviews.

[RBIII]

This is not the dreaded 'MSM' it's a bunch of comedians. And they're all laughing at the same dumb thing the president did that day. That is not 'crafting content in unison': it's everyone seeing the same joke and getting it at the same time.

If it seems to happen with alarming frequency, almost daily, let me direct the curious eye toward the source of this 'comedy collusion', the wellspring as it were from which they all miraculously find the same silly nonsense to laugh at, every single day:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

You either don't understand the influence all these shows have as a collective, or are being disingenuous, like the left does. Those links take me to Trumps twitter feed, i don't get how that's relevant to me saying the left and MSM are all in coordination. He's one man.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I'm not angry, the left isn't being logical, everyone can see it, and its why they are losing.

You and logic remain tragically, and yet hilariously unacquainted.

 

[RBIII]

Narcissist scumbag bad might win. Tariffs are not such a good thing. Alienating our allies also not so good. BTW yours is an "if" as well.

No, mine is an assertion, i will live with my loss, yours is an if, which means you lack confidence in your projection. Every country has tariffs in some shape or fashion, re calibrating is not inherently bad, alienating our allies if they believe all the things i stated in my initial post also isn't inherently bad. The silver lining is, they don't believe those things and are turning as we speak. The media has had a hold on Narratives, and with the internet its over. Ideas and principles > MSM narrative and censorship.

 

[RBIII]

You and logic remain tragically, and yet hilariously unacquainted.

Please, elaborate. You probably wont though, enjoy your future losses.

 

[Chomsky]

Of course i do, most of them are, but if you ever bring up Trump things go off the rails quickly, because just asking a question like how? Will send a lefties brain into overload, so I've learned its better to not bring it up. And to be fair, i never considered myself to be on the right, the lefties have on the right because i dare to question anything. So another reason the left will keep losing, IMO, is because they are pushing the middle people to the right.

Thanks for the response. I suspect for whatever reason, you might be running with at least some immature and unrealistic & unreasonable Lefties.

But I can definitely say that except for some fringe actors, I think you'll find that OP list is pretty over-the-top. I'm thought of as pretty much a Lefty here, and there's probably only two items on the list I agree with, and even those I'd have to qualify.

 

[RBIII]

Apparently you missed the irony. My point was to imitate the “straw man” summary of what the left believes by being equally ridiculous about the right.

Well, apparently you missed my point, in that i am serious, and you are trying to be ironic, which was missed. It is not a "straw man" summary, have you seen Celine Dions new gender neutral commercial, in which she states "our children aren't really our children" here you go:



Pause at 33 seconds to see the demons, your welcome.

 

[RBIII]

Thanks for the response. I suspect for whatever reason, you might be running with at least some immature and unrealistic & unreasonable Lefties.

But I can definitely say that except for some fringe actors, I think you'll find that OP list is pretty over-the-top. I'm thought of as pretty much a Lefty here, and there's probably only two items on the list I agree with, and even those I'd have to qualify.

Would you tell me which ones are over the top, with a brief explanation? I'd really like to know.

 

[beefheart]

No, did i say i have issues with women having a brain? Did i say i have a problem with someone questioning my religion? Not frightened with my masculinity, all religions are fine by me, i think the world is great right now, the left are the ones acting as if it is not.

My point is how can you believe all the things i suggested at the same time? There are so many contradictions.

Yes, by your idiotic original post you sure did.

 

[RBIII]

Yes, by your idiotic original post you sure did.

Great, no specifics, just you sniffing your own flatulence, good job buddy.

 

[beefheart]

Great, no specifics, just you sniffing your own flatulence, good job buddy.

I was specific...you couldn't understand it.

America matured, you didn't.

 

[Redress]

Border security = racist

Misrepresentation

Nationalism = unpatriotic

Nope, wrong again

Christianity = homophobic

Nope, wrong again

Islam = A okay

Misrepresentation

Male masculinity = toxic

Nope, wrong again

Women adopting masculine traits = progress

Misrepresentation

Families over career = sexist

Nope, wrong again

Career over family = progress

Misrepresentation

Gender = Social Construct

Hey, you got one right.

Truth = "My Truth"

Nope, wrong again

Beauty = Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner

Nope, wrong again

Slut walk = Progress

Misrepresentation.

What is the problem? How do you exist believing all of these things at the same time?

Maybe if you spent time learning what people believed, instead of assigning them beliefs, you might understand better.

IMO the left would have no power if it wasn't for the media, key reason, they don't want kids, so their numbers dwindle every year. Couple that with the medias loss of power with their constructed and disingenuous narratives, and the emergence of the internet, it may really be over. Unless they start fighting with ideas instead of censorship.

Your opinion is kinda laughable.

 

[RBIII]

I was specific...you couldn't understand it.

America matured, you didn't.

So matured means all the things i mentioned in my OP is the logical trajectory of maturity? If that's what you believe, i disagree.

 

[RBIII]

Misrepresentation



Nope, wrong again



Nope, wrong again



Misrepresentation



Nope, wrong again



Misrepresentation


Nope, wrong again



Misrepresentation



Hey, you got one right.



Nope, wrong again



Nope, wrong again



Misrepresentation.



Maybe if you spent time learning what people believed, instead of assigning them beliefs, you might understand better.



Your opinion is kinda laughable.

Well, you might wan't to tell the MSM that, because they are defining the left. Us reasonable people are simply observing. And i don't only watch the MSM, i follow about 20 independent reporters (worldwide) and even the ones on left are being converted to the right because of the inconsistencies. The left says believe all women but no one wants to believe Juanita Broaddrickk and what Bill Clinton did to her, inconsistency no?

 

[beefheart]

So matured means all the things i mentioned in my OP is the logical trajectory of maturity? If that's what you believe, i disagree.

Your homophobia, your fear of women who have the audacity to be equal. Its all there.

You live on fear and anger. Most people don't, they moved on, and the world is better because of it.

 

[Redress]

Well, you might wan't to tell the MSM that, because they are defining the left. Us reasonable people are simply observing. And i don't only watch the MSM, i follow about 20 independent reporters (worldwide) and even the ones on left are being converted to the right because of the inconsistencies. The left says believe all women but no one wants to believe Juanita Broaddrickk and what Bill Clinton did to her, inconsistency no?

No, no one is defining "the left" like that, you are. Why are you unable to take responsibility for your own actions?

 

[Redress]

Have you considered...

No, he clearly has not considered anything.

 

[RBIII]

Your homophobia, your fear of women who have the audacity to be equal. Its all there.

You live on fear and anger. Most people don't, they moved on, and the world is better because of it.

This is laughable, you don't know me, like i said, instead of battling ideas you try and diagnose me, like y'all do everyone else, which is why you will continue to lose. It's all good, enjoy your future losses, unless you have something intelligent to say. I've provided evidence for why i say the things i say, you have not.

 

[Redress]

Is this a joke? The mid term elections were hardly a win for the left, if you think it was, more power to you.

So power shifting to the left is not a win for the left? Is this Bizarro world?

 

[Chomsky]

Would you tell me which ones are over the top, with a brief explanation? I'd really like to know.

Speaking for myself, pretty much all of them except "Islam" & "Nationalism", and perhaps "Slut Walk" of which I'm not familiar enough with.

I don't want to bang in depth at this time of night, but I'll try to touch on 'em (very) briefly:

Border security = racist --> Not at all. I'm for strong, secure, borders.

Nationalism = unpatriotic --> Mostly agreed. Like in implementing socialism or communism, the theory =/= reality

Christianity = homophobic --> Not at all. BTW, I'm practicing Catholic.

Islam = A okay --> Muslims are fine. It's extremists that are the problem

Male masculinity = toxic --> No way! I prove it in the way I live!

Women adopting masculine traits = progress --> Personally I like my women feminine, and picked a very feminine lady! But if a women wants to act in a masculine manner, that's her business not mine.
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Families over career = sexist ---> Not at all. That's crazy.

Career over family = progress --> I don't know anyone that puts their family second, to be honest.

Gender = Social Construct --> I'm still dealing with these recent changes in society, I have my personal thoughts, but decided to go along in public life with the way society & the law prescribe.

Truth = "My Truth" --> Wherever the facts lead, is truth.

Beauty = Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner --> Comon? Though maybe for some it seems ...

Slut walk = Progress --> Not familiar enough to form an opinion.

 

[RBIII]

No, no one is defining "the left" like that, you are. Why are you unable to take responsibility for your own actions?

Plenty of independent former liberal journalist have defined "the left" as that. It's not me i can assure you. And today, the left is represented by CNN , MSNBC, NBC, and everything else on TV. Do you disagree with that? If so why?

 

[TurtleDude]

So gaining the most house seats since 1974 is a loss?

did the democrats gain as many seats as the GOP did in 1994? IIRC the GOP picked up over 50 congressional seats and 8 senate seats

 

[Redress]

Plenty of independent former liberal journalist have defined "the left" as that. It's not me i can assure you. And today, the left is represented by CNN , MSNBC, NBC, and everything else on TV. Do you disagree with that? If so why?

No, you have. Why are you so afraid to take responsibility for your own opinions? I don't blame my opinions on others, why do you?

 

[RBIII]

Speaking for myself, pretty much all of them except "Islam" & "Nationalism", and perhaps "Slut Walk" of which I'm not familiar enough with.

I don't want to bang in depth at this time of night, but I'll try to touch on 'em (very) briefly:

Speaking for myself, pretty much all of them except "Islam" & "Nationalism", and perhaps "Slut Walk" of which I'm not familiar enough with.

I don't want to bang in depth at this time of night, but I'll try to touch on 'em (very) briefly:

Thanks for your response getting late here too fellow east coaster, let see here:

Nationalism doesn't have to be socialist or communist, Nationalism without those two attributes are some of the greatest countries.

If you are a practicing Catholic the left will automatically cast you on the right, just hasn't happened yet.

Muslims are fine, extremist are the problem with all religions, but the left "in power" are mostly atheist, i can post proof if needed. My point was the left seems to give Islam a pass for things they won't give Christianity as pass for.

As far as masculinity, good for you, but if you watch MSM, masculinity is toxic, i can provide proof if need be.

You preferring a feminine woman to the left would mean you are sexist, they would ask why? You would provide your reasons and they would say you are sexist.

Girls on the left are are not having babies, most of them don't want to have babies or be married.

You don't know that many left feminist then, they are putting FUN and opportunity over having a family, and are being taught that, i can provide sources if need be. Then when they reach 30ish, they say where have all the good men gone :doh

Gender is not a social construct, period, men and women are distinctively different.

As far as truths, men have hot dogs, girls have the buns, how could this be a personal truth? Its just the truth, what you decide to do with it is your choice.

Bruce Jenner is not beautiful, this is horse crap.

Allow me, enjoy:

 

[RBIII]

No, you have. Why are you so afraid to take responsibility for your own opinions? I don't blame my opinions on others, why do you?

Are you serious, i stand by opinions, i can't believe that wasn't clear. What do you disagree with that i haven't refuted already or you don't think i refuted sufficiently? Or do you prefer to talk around the topic? Strange character you are.

 

[Nickyjo]

I have no idea what you believe personally, but I do know how things are portrayed by the biased mainstream news media, many democratic politicians in DC and the leftist talking heads on political discussion shows... and the person who wrote this op nailed many of them.

This is how you are portrayed if you are a conservative and:

Support border security and enforcing immigration laws - a racist.
Embrace Nationalism - a white supremacist, Nazi and/or racist.
Are white - A privileged oppressor that discriminates against minorities.
Are black - A sell-out, traitor, an Uncle Tom.
Are a woman - unintelligent, subservient, controlled by their husband, a traitor to their gender.
A Christian - Intolerant and homophobic
Supports the prevention of Islamic terrorism - Islamophobic
Supports women choosing family over career - a sexist, oppressor of women
Believes abortion is morally wrong - a sexist, oppressor of women
Believes gender definition from a scientific perspective - a hater of trans-gendered people
Supports voter ID laws - a racist
Opposes gay marriage, but supports gay unions and rights for gay couples - homophobic

I'm not claiming any of those to be your beliefs, but that is how conservatives are far too often portrayed, and falsely I might ad, by those on the left... and as long as people on the left like yourself don't voice any objections to those descriptions and labels, that's silent support as far as I'm concerned. Much in the same way the left has turned a blind eye for years to the violence against women and homosexuals in Islamic governed countries as well as the violent actions of ANTIFA here at home.

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Look, I am the first to admit that some things believed on the left about the groups you mention are wierd, mainly on some campuses. I loathe the notion of “white privilege” as an excuse not to look at class divisions. “Politicaly correct,” after all, was a term the left coined in the 1960s to make fun of ourselves. But just because someone on the left doesn’t, say, believe in an irrational fear of Muslims, it doesn’t mean we are indifferent to the way women or gays might be persecuted in majority Muslim countries. As to Antifa, google “democrats condemn antifa” or some other relevant phrase.

Stand up for your positions. One can support border security without injecting race into the argunent and violating the law as Trump does. You seem to be setting up critics of what might be your positions as absolutist moral tyrants, intolerant straw men that don’t exist in any my liberal world, and I live in Berkeley.