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As it seems we are destined to be bombarded with the current news cycle issue of racism, I was wondering...

What if someone formed a charter school, say, in Texas and named it after John Wilkins Booth (Lincoln assassin,) or James Earl Ray, (MLK assassin.) Or, maybe, "D.B. Cooper Elementary."

A charter school named after the guy who killed MLK might go over well in certain regions of our nation. What would be the backlash? Who would be the one's backlashing?

Would a private entity, paid with government tax-dollars, have the right to name their charter school any damn name they please?

There is a reason I ask these questions soliciting your opinions. Work with me here. The thread will develop as I watch a particular local issue manifest itself. It will all make sense soon, I assure you.
 

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Seems like a great name for a skydiving school - D.B. Cooper Skydiving Academy. :mrgreen:

They named a charter school after Rachel Carson here and she is responsible for millions of deaths in the third world.
 

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Well, sometimes, I think what white folks need, is their own Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton.

Could you imagine what the good Rev's would do if we opened a Middle School and named it after Jim Crow? James E. Ray? George Wallace? David Duke? Knowing tax dollars are paying for it's services?

Well, check this out. This is not hypothetical. This is really happening in Milwaukee, WI. (Only, in a different kind of way, than the examples given above.)

Some say school for at-risk kids was named after a terrorist | FOX6Now.com
 

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As it seems we are destined to be bombarded with the current news cycle issue of racism, I was wondering...

What if someone formed a charter school, say, in Texas and named it after John Wilkins Booth (Lincoln assassin,) or James Earl Ray, (MLK assassin.) Or, maybe, "D.B. Cooper Elementary."

A charter school named after the guy who killed MLK might go over well in certain regions of our nation. What would be the backlash? Who would be the one's backlashing?

Would a private entity, paid with government tax-dollars, have the right to name their charter school any damn name they please?

There is a reason I ask these questions soliciting your opinions. Work with me here. The thread will develop as I watch a particular local issue manifest itself. It will all make sense soon, I assure you.

Let me know when it all comes together.
 

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It looks like the folks who run the school named it that just cause it sounded cool and full of heritage. :lamo

During the original planning process of starting the school, the founders decided on the name “Assata” because of its strong ancestral origination. Assata is a popular East African Swahili name and founders decided on this name specifically because the school was designated to be an Afro-Centric school.
 

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As it seems we are destined to be bombarded with the current news cycle issue of racism, I was wondering...

What if someone formed a charter school, say, in Texas and named it after John Wilkins Booth (Lincoln assassin,) or James Earl Ray, (MLK assassin.) Or, maybe, "D.B. Cooper Elementary."

A charter school named after the guy who killed MLK might go over well in certain regions of our nation. What would be the backlash? Who would be the one's backlashing?

Would a private entity, paid with government tax-dollars, have the right to name their charter school any damn name they please?

There is a reason I ask these questions soliciting your opinions. Work with me here. The thread will develop as I watch a particular local issue manifest itself. It will all make sense soon, I assure you.

They may not get many students.....
 

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A charter school named after the guy who killed MLK might go over well in certain regions of our nation. What would be the backlash? Who would be the one's backlashing?

Would a private entity, paid with government tax-dollars, have the right to name their charter school any damn name they please?

I honestly don't believe the bolded to be true. As for the right, I suppose the right may exist to name the school however those in power deem fit, but I don't believe it would be a case in reality.
 

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They may not get many students.....

They been operating for years. They initially claimed the name was just a common Swahili word and it meant nothing. They simply named the school that common word because it was the charter school's intention to cater to the afro segment of society. (Their words, not mine.)
 

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It looks like the folks who run the school named it that just cause it sounded cool and full of heritage. :lamo

Yeah, that was their initial denial. But as I was watching the local news crew walk up to the school, to locked doors, it was clear, through the glass, it was clear the school was named after this terrorist and her photos were everywhere and a mural on the wall.

It had to be an "Oooops :3oops: " moment. :roll:
 

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I honestly don't believe the bolded to be true. As for the right, I suppose the right may exist to name the school however those in power deem fit, but I don't believe it would be a case in reality.


One would certainly hope so, right?

But follow the story. So why is this Assata terrorist being honored and glorified at our local, inner-city, charter school? If this was a James Earl Ray Charter School in Alabama, Jackson, Sharpton, NAACP and Chris Rock would be all over it. Where are they now?
 

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One would certainly hope so, right?

But follow the story. So why is this Assata terrorist being honored and glorified at our local, inner-city, charter school? If this was a James Earl Ray Charter School in Alabama, Jackson, Sharpton, NAACP and Chris Rock would be all over it. Where are they now?

Well, it seems that there are different social etiquette rules for different subsets of the population. I personally don't think it's a good idea that things are that way, but it is what it is, and it will take a long time to change.
 

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They been operating for years. They initially claimed the name was just a common Swahili word and it meant nothing. They simply named the school that common word because it was the charter school's intention to cater to the afro segment of society. (Their words, not mine.)

Yeah, that was their initial denial. But as I was watching the local news crew walk up to the school, to locked doors, it was clear, through the glass, it was clear the school was named after this terrorist and her photos were everywhere and a mural on the wall.

It had to be an "Oooops :3oops: " moment. :roll:

I think it's crappy. It's subsidized by the public school system, so I guess it's their call if they want to continue funding it. *shrug*

The world is really really ****ed up today isn't it?
 

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Some history and context:

"Between 1973 and 1977, in New York and New Jersey, Shakur was indicted ten times, resulting in seven different criminal trials. Shakur was charged with two bank robberies, the kidnapping of a Brooklyn heroin dealer, attempted murder of two Queens police officers stemming from a January 23, 1973 failed ambush, and eight other felonies related to the Turnpike shootout.[3][72] Of these trials, three resulted in acquittals, one in a hung jury, one in a change of venue, one in a mistrial due to pregnancy, and one in a conviction; three indictments were dismissed without trial.[72]"

"An October 1956 memo from Hoover reclassified the FBI's ongoing surveillance of black leaders, including it within COINTELPRO, with the justification that the movement was infiltrated by communists.[15] When the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) was founded in 1957, the FBI began to monitor and target the group almost immediately, focusing particularly on Bayard Rustin, Stanley Levison, and Martin Luther King, Jr.[16]

After the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, King was singled out as a major target for COINTELPRO. Under pressure from Hoover to focus not simply on communist infiltration of the civil rights movement, but on King specifically, Sullivan wrote: "In the light of King's powerful demagogic speech. . . . We must mark him now, if we have not done so before, as the most dangerous Negro of the future in this nation from the standpoint of communism, the Negro, and national security."[17] Soon after, the FBI was systematically bugging King's home and his hotel rooms.[18]

Amidst the urban unrest of July–August 1967, the FBI began "COINTELPRO–BLACK HATE", which focused on King and the SCLC as well as the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and its leader, Stokely Carmichael. BLACK HATE established the Ghetto Informant Program and instructed 23 FBI offices to "disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize the activities of black nationalist hate type organizations".[19] This program coincided with a broader federal effort to prepare military responses for urban riots, and began increased collaboration between the FBI, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, and the Department of Defense.[20] A particular target was the Poor People's Campaign, a national effort organized by King and the SCLC to occupy Washington, D.C. The FBI monitored and disrupted the campaign on a national level, while using targeted smear tactics locally to undermine support for the march.[21]

COINTELPRO–NEW LEFT was created in April 1968, in the wake of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination in Memphis and mass student protests at Columbia University.[22]

The program ultimately encompassed disruption of the Socialist Workers Party (1961), the Ku Klux Klan (1964), the Nation of Islam, the Black Panther Party (1967), and the entire New Left social/political movement, which included antiwar, community, and religious groups (1968). A later investigation by the Senate's Church Committee (see below) stated that "COINTELPRO began in 1956, in part because of frustration with Supreme Court rulings limiting the Government's power to proceed overtly against dissident groups..."[23] Official congressional committees and several court cases[24] have concluded that COINTELPRO operations against communist and socialist groups exceeded statutory limits on FBI activity and violated constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech and association.[1]"

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Wasn't Mandela on the US terrorist watch list up until around 2008?


Yeah...one's person terrorist is another person's hero.

I don't know about Shakur; hadn't heard about him until this thread. So don't know if he was really a "terrorist" or if he was just targeted by the FBI for doing things they didn't like.
 

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Myself, I think that any public supported institution named after J. Edgar Hoover should have their name stricken as well. That guy was a nutzoid. But he is dead and has been long gone for a while now.

The FBI recently doubled the reward for Shakur’s capture to $2 million. I wonder why?

Google time......

Earlier this month, former Black Panther Assata Shakur was added to the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists list, becoming the first woman ever to make the list. In addition, the state of New Jersey announced it was adding $1 million to the FBI’s $1 million reward for her capture. She was convicted in the May 2, 1973, killing of a New Jersey police officer during a shootout that left one of her fellow activists dead. She was shot twice by police during the incident. In 1979, she managed to escape from jail. Shakur fled to Cuba, where she received political asylum. <snip> http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/31/as_fbi_seeks_capture_of_assata

Well, I guess that answers that question. Kill a cop and you're done for.
 
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What if, the KKK opened a charter school for underprivleged in downtown Atlanta?
 

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What if, the KKK opened a charter school for underprivleged in downtown Atlanta?

Established to cater to white's only. Then named it after George Wallace or David duke.

Like the school in Milwaukee did for African American's only? (And named after a black racist terrorist.)

I wonder how well that would go over?
 

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As it seems we are destined to be bombarded with the current news cycle issue of racism, I was wondering...

What if someone formed a charter school, say, in Texas and named it after John Wilkins Booth (Lincoln assassin,) o[B]r James Earl ]Ra[B]y, (MLK assassin.)[/B]] Or, maybe, "D.B. Cooper Elementary."

A charter school named after the guy who killed MLK might go over well in certain regions of our nation. What would be the backlash? Who would be the one's backlashing?

Would a private entity, paid with government tax-dollars, have the right to name their charter school any damn name they please?

There is a reason I ask these questions soliciting your opinions. Work with me here. The thread will develop as I watch a particular local issue manifest itself. It will all make sense soon, I assure you.

l see some people repeat that blacks were sold to whites by blacks so there is no racism:lol:

so l believe those people wouldnt disagree with it
 

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I wanna open up the Fidel Castro school of Government. In Miami.
 
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