- Joined
- May 14, 2009
- Messages
- 10,350
- Reaction score
- 4,989
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Other
That's complete BS, like all your posts on the topic.Ok. You tell me how blind support for a country is ever a good thing?
Even blind support for your own country is a bad thing because people can manipulate your emotions into making you think that what they do is "patriotic" or in any way good for the country, when in fact, it may not be. And you should know better. /...
AS I SAID several times, even those ie, who Disagree with settlements and a return to the 1967 borders Are ZIONISTS in that they support the existence if "NOT" all the policies of the state.
ie, Over the last few years, I am one of the most 'ardent zionists' on this message board: 2200 posts in the section.
I do NOT "blindly support Israel".
I have Many times Blamed Israel's current (and re-elected) PM for the negotiation Impasse and said HE is the main reason there is No peace.
ie
http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle-east/88036-netanyahu-has-rejected-one-u-s-package-too-many.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...-one-u-s-package-too-many.html#post1059170098
http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...overnment-rejecting-peace.html#post1061414882
And there are more.me in link immediately above which also cites a previous posting said:
I am not at all satisfied this Israeli govt wants peace/two states on anything but surrender terms.
Stlll in the state of mind of Piers Morgan that Israel/Netanyahu "should be the big guy here".
Until he does, I am of THIS State of mind, still:
A reasonable offer would flush out the Palestinians if, as CJ 2.0 contends, they don't want peace.
And until the last few years I would have agreed.
However, the 'Palestine Papers' revealed Abbas & co Were willing to give away the kitchen sink/so much it was embarrassing to them.
So an offer by Israel would be in order any time, IMO.
+
Alan Dershowitz: When Legit Criticism Crosses the Anti-Semitism Line
When Legit Criticism Crosses the Anti-Semitism Line
So please, spare us the Bizarro takes on Israel/Zionism/Judaism.It's interesting how quickly the bigots -- Jews and non-Jews alike -- crawl out from under their rocks as soon as Israel is mentioned.
The newest form of bigotry is to claim that I and others who Generally support Israel argue that "anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-Semite."
This is a bald-faced Lie.
I always criticize specific Israeli policies, Israeli leaders, and Israeli actions.
Most Israelis criticize specific policies.
Israel is among the most self-critical countries in the world. Several years ago, I offered a large monetary award (payable to the PLO) for anyone who could actually come up with a quote by a prominent pro-Israeli writer who equated mere criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. No one came to collect the reward, because no respectable person has ever made this absurd claim.
As Thomas Friedman of The New York Times accurately put it,
"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction -- out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East -- is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest"[...the balance...]
Last edited: