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Western Kentucky Professor: Trump's victory signals that human decency is no longer an American virtue

BrotherFease said:
Last time I checked I am a registered Republican with center-right beliefs. But yeah, it is easy to pin me as a liberal or a Democrat nowadays.

I agree that Biden is no saint, but re-electing Donald Trump is a new level of moral indecency.
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You and I must differ on the inherent morality of pedophilia and selling your country down the river for financial gain.
 
BrotherFease said:
You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:

This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
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The professor is correct.

My first job ever was helping out at a resale shop. As most kids did, I dutifully went about learning what I could about the store and the items I was trying to sell. One day a lady came in and asked how much this item was. It was a toaster oven and I think the price was like $20. “I know the price so I know enough” is all she said as she walked away. Essentially, this is the American psychee now. If the Democrats ever want to win another election they had better find a way to harness their desire to improve people’s lives...most are happy being miserable as the foks on the right here demonstrate constantly. The larger issue is whether or not we change back into an aspirational nation once Trump leaves office. I’m probably aiming too high. Right now, I’d be happy if we could all agree on 2+2 equallying four.
 
LouC said:

Western Kentucky Professor: Trump's victory signals that human decency is no longer an American virtue​

Well, DUH!!!

We sane, rational, intelligent, and politically astute folk knew that the first time Trump got elected, Professor.

He was a little slow on the uptake.
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You didn't figure it out when Bill Clinton was elected?
 
Moon said:
Of course it’s a conversation about Harris. How can you justify Trump being elected without looking at who he was running against? Trump’s election was less a comment about the morality of America as it was a comparison of two horrible candidates that in normal times wouldn’t be anywhere near a ballot.
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You have yet to defend the morality of Trump. The article is about how America doesn't value human decency anymore or perhaps never has. MAGA voters on here kept on trying to make a mouse the same size as an elephant.
 
Moon said:
Of course it’s a conversation about Harris. How can you justify Trump being elected without looking at who he was running against? Trump’s election was less a comment about the morality of America as it was a comparison of two horrible candidates that in normal times wouldn’t be anywhere near a ballot.
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Get used to it. The NEW "Normal Times" are here and "horrible" candidates are going to be the norm - from BOTH the "MORE Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DBA ‘The Republican Party’)" and the "LESS Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DBA ‘The Democratic Party’)".

And, of course, the most important things to consider in the American elections will continue to be "What did his/her next door neighbor's second cousin's former girlfriend's third grade best friend's brother's stepfathers grandfathers do?".
 
dncc said:
The professor is correct.

My first job ever was helping out at a resale shop. As most kids did, I dutifully went about learning what I could about the store and the items I was trying to sell. One day a lady came in and asked how much this item was. It was a toaster oven and I think the price was like $20. “I know the price so I know enough” is all she said as she walked away. Essentially, this is the American psychee now. If the Democrats ever want to win another election they had better find a way to harness their desire to improve people’s lives...most are happy being miserable as the foks on the right here demonstrate constantly. The larger issue is whether or not we change back into an aspirational nation once Trump leaves office. I’m probably aiming too high. Right now, I’d be happy if we could all agree on 2+2 equallying four.
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The problem with your thesis is the ridiculous idea that democrats HAVE any desire to improve people's lives.

democrats want power, absolute power, and care about nothing else. The absurd rant of the professor in the OP is just a temper tantrum over the loss of power by the party.
 
I think that another thing that this election mostly proves is that there are a lot of folks in this country who want authoritarian. Trump received nearly 50% of the vote nationwide while the Libertarian candidate received only 0.42% of the vote nationwide.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The problem with your thesis is the ridiculous idea that democrats HAVE any desire to improve people's lives.
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Well, which party was talking about free college for people? Are you going to argue that college doesn’t improve someone’s life?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Get used to it. The NEW "Normal Times" are here and "horrible" candidates are going to be the norm - from BOTH the "MORE Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DBA ‘The Republican Party’)" and the "LESS Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DBA ‘The Democratic Party’)".

And, of course, the most important things to consider in the American elections will continue to be "What did his/her next door neighbor's second cousin's former girlfriend's third grade best friend's brother's stepfathers grandfathers do?".
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I think you’ll see more celebrities running for office now. Its an easy gig if you are from the right...just say “no” to everything when your party isn’t in power and when your party is in power, blame the “deep state” for your dismal failures. If your’re runing from the left, you have a much harder job if you stick with the history of the democratic party concepts of inclucivity.
 
BrotherFease said:
The conversation is about morality, and whether it still matters. That was the point of the article. Trump is a candidate with a history of sexual misconduct, fraud, provoking violence and chaos, lying, and committing slander.

This is not a conversation about Harris. It's a question about how Americans view morality.
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Actually, it must include a conversation about Harris and Democratic party governance. Without the electorate's backlash against progressive dominance there would be no Trump in office the first time or this time.

The real question will be how far Congress, and the courts, will permit Trump and his "our gang" appointments to carry out their alleged agenda.
 
Gardener said:
You and I must differ on the inherent morality of pedophilia and selling your country down the river for financial gain.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Just a friendly reminder for people:

Biden has never found liable for rape or had to pay over a billion dollars for committing bank and property fraud. Ditto for Bill Clinton.

Trump is the first convicted felon to win the presidency.

No sitting President lied about election results, and provoked a mob to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Before January 6th of 2021, the last time we saw a mob storming the Capital Building was the Burning of Washington back in the 1800s.

Trump is the king of immorality.

The article correctly points out that people do not care about morals. You can lie, cheat, and receive no punishment.
 
The trumper mantra has been "Screw you, I've got mine." The Trump GOP has a fully embraced this, and they won in this election. But it was close. If you listen to the trumpers and the talking heads on Fox "News", this election was a'sweeping mandate' and a 'landslide election' and the dems got severely beaten.

Reality says otherwise. But they won this time. They will hold all the reins of power, and appear ready to support the old orange felon when he takes office in January. Trump has said he will do many things, but he talks a lot and often contradicts himself. Let's see what he actually does. He's not off to a great start - his nominations are pretty terrible overall.

The clock starts ticking for real on January 20th.

All this election means is that a significant number of Americans - a large minority - are willing to set aside their alleged values and place their faith in an immoral, unethical, deeply flawed criminal.

Time will tell the outcome.
 
BrotherFease said:
You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:

This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
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This professor is another example of leftists finding refuge in the halls of academia.
 
BrotherFease said:
You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:

This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
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I was raised to be good and to value others. No way I could support someone like Trump, who is bad and does not value others. People are commodities to him. He is the most anti-social leader ever.
 
Sidd Finch said:
This professor is just pointing out the obvious.
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Not really.

He's a disgruntled professor in the Department of counseling and student affairs who believes the election should have turned out differently. Like a child he rants and raves about the demise of American civilization as he imagined it ought to be.

Finally, prior to the election I bet many readers saw America as a shining city on a hill, as Ronald Reagan so eloquently put it a few years ago. Now we know that’s not the case. We are just as susceptible to being seduced by a corrupt, power-hungry, narcissistic, wannabe dictator as any other third-world country.

Again, congratulations to Trump for exposing the cold, hard truth about who we are. There is no American Exceptionalism; we are not immune from evil, anti-democratic authoritarian leaders with fascist tendencies.

So, there is his indictment. Between Trump the earthquake and Harris the status quo, what viable alternatives were offered to the electorate? Perhaps the issue is a two tier political structure grown brittle with predictability.
 
Str8shooter said:
This professor is another example of leftists finding refuge in the halls of academia.
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Leftists? Are all educators "leftists" to you?

You have hit on something, though. I agree with the OP, but the bigger problem is ignorance. When a politician can convince people of falsehoods, that speaks to their minds, not their hearts.
 
Along Came Jones said:
Not really.

He's a disgruntled professor in the Department of counseling and student affairs who believes the election should have turned out differently. Like a child he rants and raves about the demise of American civilization as he imagined it ought to be.
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Opinion noted.
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Finally, prior to the election I bet many readers saw America as a shining city on a hill, as Ronald Reagan so eloquently put it a few years ago. Now we know that’s not the case. We are just as susceptible to being seduced by a corrupt, power-hungry, narcissistic, wannabe dictator as any other third-world country.

Again, congratulations to Trump for exposing the cold, hard truth about who we are. There is no American Exceptionalism; we are not immune from evil, anti-democratic authoritarian leaders with fascist tendencies.
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Pretty spot on.
Along Came Jones said:
So, there is his indictment. Between Trump the earthquake and Harris the status quo, what viable alternatives were offered to the electorate? Perhaps the issue is a two tier political structure grown brittle with predictability.
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Trump the "earthquake"? No. Trump the convicted fraud, charity thief, and rapist.
 
NatMorton said:
The good professor is a drama queen.
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There is no question that Donald Trump has had a coarsening and vulgar effect on American culture. What used to be almost universally considered rude and socially unacceptable behavior and rhetoric is now held up as an ideal to aspire to.

Teachers and child psychologists all over the country are raising red flags and telling us that our children, taking cues from the national leaders who "win", are engaging in more rude, disobedient behavior, flouting authority, bullying, cursing, etc... Teen boys are engaging in more toxic masculinity and openly endorsing misogyny and homophobia. Openly racist rhetoric and behavior is becoming more acceptable. Hey "it's what winners and real men do", right? "Just sayin' it like it is", right?

www.seattletimes.com

Trump’s words used by kids to bully classmates at school

Since Donald Trump's rise to the presidency, his inflammatory language — often condemned as racist and xenophobic — has seeped into schools across America. Many bullies now target other children differently, with kids as young as 6 mimicking his insults.
www.seattletimes.com www.seattletimes.com
 
Sidd Finch said:
Opinion noted.

Pretty spot on.

Trump the "earthquake"? No. Trump the convicted fraud, charity thief, and rapist.
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And once again, the duly elected President of the United States.

The only issue which matters is the strength of our institutions to withstand the earthquake.
 
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